+1 on the VOX, either that or the CUBE. It could make any el cheapo studio guitars sounds better .

sorry guys. i would go for the fender amps. coz it's classy and i like the warm tone that it produces. plus, resale value will be also ok.

but if it's a 2nd hand fender amp u buying as stated in the starting of the thread. It's kinda risky.........

ok guys, how about a vox valvetronix 50w and a roland cube 60w? with hartke bass amp a100w? nice combination?

I like that combo.Don't get the Marshall MG,I never liked that amp.Or if can,then go for Ceriatone la!Support local

i would still go for marshall , its realiable with the long warranty and i love the tone

i think ill go for all roland cube series amps , guitars and bass..
tried them yesterday, owh it sounds awesome!
anyone have other opinion, speak it out before i buy them~

so the current plan for my setup are :
roland amps with boss foot switch.
sx pirate series guitars and bass
wharfedale p.a system.
pearl drums with evans skin and sabian/headliner cymbals.
and might be using my pearl joey jordison snare or ill but a new tama picollo...depends... hehe~

and the renovation is currently 70% done. owh i cant wait~

This post has been edited by art_tech: Apr 29 2008, 02:58 AM

My opinion ? I think you're overpaying for average gear that only sound good in the bedroom.

The people I talked to usually don't have much good things to say about roland's product (except maybe microcube based on price vs benefits ratio).

Amps above the microcube of Roland's line are usually either too expensive or not oomph enough, not gigable quality, for the cost/benefit ratio that you get with other amps.

This came right off the mouth of sales people who're authorized dealers for roland. They're supposed to promote roland, but apparently the young salesman I know is way too honest with his opinions, I hope his boss doesn't hear what he said.

Roland also doesn't take customer opinions into consideration based on some threads I read, or else they would not have come up with that overpriced junk called cube street, and probably soon, the microcube rx.

Then again, they have a good network in Malaysia so support is one thing you should not worry about compared to other brands.

I think you should at least have 1 preamp-tube based amps for the tube lovers. Otherwise you might lose quite a few of potential clients.

Cater for both solid state and the tube crowd lah.

hmm....

ok as far as i can see, there's not much difference in price between the roland cube60, vox valvetronix and a marshall, the roland is even cheaper than a vox 50w....

i dont know much about guitar stuff,
but for the few weeks, ive been moving around to guitar stores, testing almost all brands of combo amps available, and the best sound that i heard is from the roland, and plus, the interface is very user friendly...and its cheap, easy to handle, small yet powerful...
and it received a rating of 9.3 from ultimate-guitar.com....and 9.0 rating from harmony-central.com........
while vox valvetronix is 8.7 and mg100dfx is 8.6...

oh and my budget is only for a small studio for jamming,
i cant afford tube amps yet la bro

hmm...roland amps really not that good ah?
but every guitarist i met are looking for roland jazz chorus, they even willing to pay high price for a 2nd hand jazz chorus...and that guitar technician from js dont even wanna sell it to people.......

im learning, sorry~




or maybe ill stick to my previous plan? a cube60 and a valvetronix~

This post has been edited by art_tech: Apr 29 2008, 04:30 AM

I didn't say you must have a full tube amp mar. The vox valvetronix series are pre-amp tube hybrids. For marshall I think it's the AVT series but I am not sure about the price. The problem is the guitar stores I visit will only show the MG series, not the AVT. I've never seen one yet in my area. Try to check out the marshall AVT series if you can, they should be the ones we compare to the vox valvetronix series.

Rolands sound good, but from what I heard they don't hold up well in gigging environments unless you pay more for the more oomph versions, when you could pay less for other amps at lower wattage and still get decent giggable volume/tone from them.

Should not compare the same wattage when using roland, since it seems their amps are underpowered when comparing other amps among the same wattage/price level.

But since you said your jamming studio is a small room, I guess giggability is not priority, but support, tone quality and price.

I'm saying I am happy with the price I pay for microcube, but if go up the chain, might be worth to take a look at other amps.

Did you know the microcube rx has just been released and the asking price is rm 990 ? That sorta give you an idea what sort of premium image Roland is trying to project with their overpriced underpowered amps, though they do have nice tone.

Metal freaks should love the roland cubes and vintage tone lovers will love the vox valvetronix.

This post has been edited by bman: Apr 29 2008, 04:48 AM

or get the Vox VTXL series and you get the best of both vintage and modern tones

But if you're running a studio, come to think of it, stick with a solid state amp. Tubes, if not kept properly (even the pre-amp types), can be broken down easily and is quite fragile. Just keep that in mind.

I'd agree with the Vox and Roland.I don't really like the idea of the MG. Perhaps an AVT?The AVT seems fine to me.

Let's be realistic. Those young fellas who go to your studio to jam wont play jazz. cos they dont know how to. They are gonna play alternative, rock, metal. So the practical amp for these 'dirty' music is Marshall.

I'm letting go of my Roland Cube-30X. Interested?

bman,
oh man, i guess u are wrong about the cube60.
i just bought 2 units, and yesterday i take it to the studio for a test run,
i connect it to a marshall cabinet,
i gotta tell u guys, this amp sounds superb!!!!
even the line 6 head and cab next to it doesn't sound that great!
and my guitarist and other guitarist there love it so much!
my guitarist don't even take out his stompboxes, he absolutely love the preset amps!
this amp rocks!! and we are going to use it during gigs~
underpowered u said, and not practical for gigging?
then plug it to a speaker cabinet, or u can directly output it to monitor, or a simple solution, mic it!!

i recommend this amp for users who's looking for cheap price , small portable size, great sounds, a super easy user friendly interface, and great functions with a 'roland' quality!

it can serve all kind of tunes, from jazz, to 70's to 90's, and to even metal!

This post has been edited by art_tech: May 11 2008, 12:54 PM

^
+1 to the cube.
since i "upgraded" to a microcube, i dont even use my stompbox anymore

Aiyo please lah you connect anything to a cabinet (furthermore a Marshall cabinet) then there's no issue with underpower. By itself the amp speakers no oomph lah.

Like that you can probably even connect the damn Zoom G1 or Amplitube/other PC software amps and get giggable volume to a full range system or mic the thing as you said (connected to another smaller pre-amp or something)

The problem with the cube series is the effects are not chainable and you cannot do much with the effects together and they have no effects loop. Other than that, the amp modeling is damn fine though. The dealbreaker is probably the price of course,if you can get it cheaper than other similar models then worth it.

Well anyway, not a wrong choice if you got it for a good price. After all they're easier to maintain and plenty of good support in Malaysia. Don't put too much hope in the efx functions because you'll get bored of them pretty quick.

Anyway have a read here.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=597868

you know that ceriatone is recognized worldwide ? that'd be great if a studio could use their amps in malaysia... you're located at the source but of course, they're quite expensive.

and for "average" jam studio, i think i'd go for solidstate heads + cabs, rather than combos. At least if something breaks, then you can still use the part that is still ok.

all that is just a thought, because the choice has already been done.

I know I'm no moderator or anything but I find that expression a bit unnecessary and uncalled for...

Well, best you stay away from tubes if you don't want to spend every minute worrying when some kids go in and turn all the knobs on the amp without knowing what they're doing. I would recommend either a Cube or Valvetronic.

This post has been edited by fatboythin: May 12 2008, 03:55 AM

but with tube amps, you can really raise the price of your studio.. and kids like us, "lowyat punks", wouldn't be able to afford such hi end studio

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