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nikyas
post Apr 18 2008, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Apr 10 2008, 02:48 PM)
Last time when i watch MU Boro game at mamak in sri andalas, klang.. there was 2 row of table containing 10-12 table in a row. i realize that most of the ppl watching in the back row are not MU fans, and they are shouting every time boro in attack.. shouting like hell when afonso alvez score.. 'just want to share betapa sakit and bengangnya hati' when they celebrate that alvez goal. They just been there to spoil MU fans. Sigh...
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although, man utd has the biggest fan based, they are also one of the most hated club in UK. Once, I wore a Utd jersey in London, then one 'mat salleh' walk beside me and said: ' utd? urrrgh!!' . This happen a few times.
Maybe the same situation happening in malaysia? People just love to hate us! tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 02:46 PM

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This is my opinion on the matter.

I don't really think people hate Manchester United because they are successful. For serious football fans, i think it's because your success has given rise to the number of casual fans that support you and thus, they have little respect for your fans (of that sort). When Liverpool were dominant, I don't remember there being the same sense of hatred. I may be wrong but it's what I remember. Old timers can affirm this. In the end, I think people in general, hate arrogance or similar attributes. Success can breed contempt but it can also breed respect, depending on how you manage it. Then you have a group of people that just can't stand hearing about Man Utd anymore simply because they keep hearing the name over and over again to the point it becomes tiresome.
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post Apr 18 2008, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Apr 10 2008, 02:48 PM)
Last time when i watch MU Boro game at mamak in sri andalas, klang.. there was 2 row of table containing 10-12 table in a row. i realize that most of the ppl watching in the back row are not MU fans, and they are shouting every time boro in attack.. shouting like hell when afonso alvez score.. 'just want to share betapa sakit and bengangnya hati' when they celebrate that alvez goal. They just been there to spoil MU fans. Sigh...
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you mean people cannot support Boro, can only support MU, or the mamak is designated from MU fans only, non-mu fans get lost.

talking about boro, last time, when arsenal losing to boro 3-1 that time, all the ppl behind me(which I know mostly are mu fans) shouts like crazy madman, only to be shutup later , that was the best moment of my life. rclxm9.gif

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murishige
post Apr 18 2008, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Apr 10 2008, 02:48 PM)
Last time when i watch MU Boro game at mamak in sri andalas, klang.. there was 2 row of table containing 10-12 table in a row. i realize that most of the ppl watching in the back row are not MU fans, and they are shouting every time boro in attack.. shouting like hell when afonso alvez score.. 'just want to share betapa sakit and bengangnya hati' when they celebrate that alvez goal. They just been there to spoil MU fans. Sigh...
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i see nothing wrong there..when liverpool draw or lose, there's always people keep sms me or yelling in front of me..most of them are manu fans registered under act of glory hunter 2008.. tongue.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 08:00 PM


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QUOTE(highbury1913 @ Apr 18 2008, 12:16 AM)
The word is not 'true' fan its

Die-Hard Fan:
Loves his club no matter what. Scream during matches and thinks the club's manager can listen to him through the TV biggrin.gif Won't even wear a shirt of another club.

Glory Hunters:
People who support a team based on their honours. If they don't win the title for a few seasons, say bye bye.

Character Fans:
People who support characters in a club. And would not support the club if the person is not with the club any more. Eg. Mourinho leaving Chelsea and Beckham leaving Man Utd and RM.

Casual Fans:
They do not really care about the club. They support them because they like the way the club play. If the club stop playing the way they like they will support another club that can play the way they like. Not to be mixed up with Glory Hunters, these people do not care too much whether the club wins titles or not.
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yeap.thats me!the match of man united against arsenal last week made me lost my voice for a day.haha.and cant imagine myself wearing rivals' jerseys blink.gif
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post Apr 19 2008, 11:27 AM

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I think just shouting at the top of your voice isn't sufficient to qualify you as a seasoned fan. You know what they say about empty vessels? It is more an expression of your personality than your loyalty. Displaying passion is one thing, but knowledge is key.

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post Apr 19 2008, 08:18 PM

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its always easy to yell at the top of your voice when you're in a big group.try doing that when you're outnumbered ten to one..for most chelsea fans who watch matches in groups,this is a pretty common scenario..you'll find that its significantly 'harder' to voice your support then.it would be interesting if manutd or liverpool fans were put in that kind of situation to see if they're just as vocal..but as duke said,sometimes being the loudest doesn't qualify you as being the best kind of supporter..but it does count for passion of course.and your willingness to show support no matter how dire the situation.however about having enough knowledge about your club,some people can disguise themselves as fans with a few 'clicks' here and there..spend some extra time on youtube as well,and suddenly you're an expert.i think the ultimate acid test would be the relegation of one's club to a lower division.safe to say those fans who stick around,are probably in an eternal love affair with their club.and obviously those who don't are just there for the good times

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