Yup... Just like mivec, not every version using the most powerful RS version. And not every VTEC using B16C...

CPS R3 anyone?

Yes, i agree they are totally different. But they both eliminated the torque dip didn't they? That's why i say same effect...juz my opinion

[sarcasm] Fine, CamPro Cam Profile Switching. Sounds much better. [/sarcasm]

varies lift.. okay, when u switch to aggressive lobe, it open/lift the valve longer for more air intake etc etc..
thats y u said it varies the lift of the valve hence the timing of the valve also varies accordingly
thats y it is still consider VVT

i stand to be corrected though

boss, diffrent case coz that basher said all CPS/VTEC/MIVEC engine with wild profile will be underpowered if the profile is not activated.. i wana tell him even without turning on MIVEC, i still able to easily reach 140km/h

btw, the VVT that u mention about is more like VVT-i lol..
any technology that change the timing of the valve opening/closing duration can be considered as VVT

as far as i know, RS version of MIVEC engine is the same as regular 4G92 MIVEC..
RS is the car trim option, like VTi, VTi-S as in Honda..
RS is a strip down version of mirage cyborg to make it lighter, suitable for Rally Sport
if u r talking about RalliART tuned then diffrent lor

cps dont eliminate the torque dip, its the VIM that eliminate it..
VIM and IAFM working principle should be the same.. CPS only switch the camlobe, nothing much

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Added on April 9, 2008, 1:56 ambesides, why is there the need to discuss/bash the name? since it is named campro then campro lor
nobody read PROTON as PeRusahaan OTOmobil Nasional right?
or PERODUA as PERusahaan Otomobil KeDUA Berhad?
imo, campro is a good name.. too bad, tarnished by the limp campro lol

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Apr 9 2008, 01:56 AM

waitin for that particular person to reply


CPS 1.6 has 125 HP

vvti 1.8 has 135 HP

I said 1.6 didn't I?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_ZZ_engine#3ZZ-FE



The 3ZZ-FE is the 1.6 L (1598 cc) version built in Japan. It is found in Asian Toyota Corolla Altis which is available in countries such as Singapore, Malaysia, Philippines, Thailand and Taiwan. In South Africa the motor can be found in the Rux 160 and Corolla 160. The entire exterior design and chassis is the same as the American Corolla. Bore is 79.0 mm and stroke is 81.5 mm. Max. Output is 109 hp (81 kW) @ 6000 rpm. Max. Torque is 111 lb·ft (150 N·m). of torque (150 Nm) @ 3800 rpm.

Applications:

* Toyota Corolla (Europe, 109 hp)
* Toyota Corolla Altis 1.6E (Asian, 110 hp)
* Toyota Corolla and RunX 160 (South African, 81 @ 6000Kw and 146 @ 4400Nm)



OK I lose. The Asian version of the Altis 1.6 has 110 bhp too, with a much better torque figure (not the max torque, the curve) than the Campro. The CPS has better horsepower and same amount of max torque though I'm not sure which one has better low-end torque.

Still, my point is that horsepower numbers don't mean everything.

This post has been edited by mTk: Apr 9 2008, 02:34 PM

errr... not you...
the other person...


and CPS torque curve climbs and max out at 4.4k rpm
but at 2k rpm onwards, u have more torque then non-cps campro and more importantly, there is no dip at 2.5k - 3.5k region...


This post has been edited by kcng: Apr 9 2008, 02:59 PM

Oh the other person

Yea, I know CPS has better torque than non-CPS Campro. I mean... low-end compared to the Toyota 1.6 engine.

From the dyno chart I've seen on Paultan's website, it sure looks good though!

Torque curve in Altis will provide better drivability across RPM range.. CPS curve is more suited for spirited driving style.

This post has been edited by sphiroth: Apr 9 2008, 10:09 PM

Driving curve? so sepang curves no problem?

hope to test drive CPS someday ..

Opss.. spirited driving style.

hehehe..and so we have the CPS, and a Lotus tuned suspension system..a sleeper proton perhaps?

Don't put too much hope on CPS if want a VTEC like kick... Only can feel the kick in 2nd gear.

So bascily the CPS should be in manual gear? auto cannot?

auto tranny also can geh.... mivec n vtec also has variant in auto tranny....

Yap.. got both AT and MT, get the MT to use it full potential... but AT also not bad.

as the saying goes, real man drive manual


(dun really hold water nowadays with the introduction of DSG etc)

so u mean got kukujiao drive manual??....

got CB also can drive manual wan