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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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wuwah
post Nov 18 2014, 11:49 AM

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Hi guys.. I actually think I've screwed out something. Here's the story,

- Actually though to buy a house from someone as the price is very2 attractive in a hot area. If get, net passive income would be a little below RM1000. No need any cuci2 or improvement. Just buy and sambung sewa.
- Went to BIMB, can’t get loan as my salary is <2000
- went to CIMB, actually can get loan, but the person introduce me to the ASB financing. After hear everything, I kind of interested..
- Next day, went again to take the ASB instead of the house.. 100k (Several reasons, the house was told might be undervalued by bank.. so I need 20k downpayment.. Also, if value is ok, I still have problem with downpayment..)
- ASB loan starts November, now I’m actually regretting as I actually can try discuss with an uncle of mine to help me finance the house.. (House still available)
- So, now, say I want to cancel the CIMB ASB loan as I know it has no lock in period. I calculated that if I close the ASB loan after dividend was given early next year, I’m not loss too much (actually, I’m not sure, I think based on my calculation I get a little around RM90 profit sweat.gif )

Any opinions from fellow forumer? I’m really regret this thing, and can’t really concentrate on my job now. Haha..

This post has been edited by wuwah: Nov 18 2014, 11:50 AM
wuwah
post Nov 18 2014, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Nov 18 2014, 11:59 AM)
the 100k loan sure with insurance right? so u rugi insurance already..
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oh. forgot about that.. yeah.. I actually have other insurance..
wuwah
post Nov 18 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Nov 18 2014, 01:21 PM)
once u took the loan, it will effect your housing loan..
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eventhough the 2 months previously is actually have no problems? cry.gif
wuwah
post Nov 18 2014, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Nov 18 2014, 02:16 PM)
will effect CTOS and CCRIS..
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sorry bro.. I'm not really have full insight about this.. (My mistake.. should have read more before applying the asb loan last time..) do this mean that for future loan/housing loan, bank did not have confident that I'll honour the loan agreement I might not be able to commit? cry.gif
wuwah
post Nov 18 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Nov 18 2014, 02:31 PM)
My general advice to young people who havent got a house and IS PLANNING to get one within an immediate future (2 to 5 years) is to avoid getting the ASB loan.

First of all, the loan will appear in your CCRIS and it will be considered as your commitment by all the banks except for, and with great credit-record on your side, the bank you took your ASB loan from.

The dividends from ASB can be used to "cancel" the commitment from the ASB loan, but most banks only accept an average from 2 years return, meaning if you take the loan today (at the end of the year) your average 2-year return will be lower come 2 years from today, and for those who havent received the dividends for 2 years in a row wouldnt be able to use it the dividend to "cancel" the ASB loan commitment.

A house is a necessity, an ASB isn't so much.

Remember, it's always important to cater to your basic needs of:

1. Food/drinks
2. Clothing
3. Shelter

And;

1. Basic 3 to 8 months savings as an emergency fund
2. Insurance
3. Investment.

Even as a mortgage broker I sometimes tell my clients to not buy a house before they have their emergency fund and insurance already set in place
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Thanks bro.. But in my case, I think this is all too late.. I see my plan, to cancel the ASB loan, I need to wait until 10 years cry.gif any advice?
wuwah
post Nov 18 2014, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Nov 18 2014, 02:41 PM)
I may be biased since I am managing a lot of funds for my clients and none of them involves ASB and they are earning more than 8% per annum anyway:

1. My advice would be to cut your loses, and get out while you can. You will incur some loses but your cash flow would be in better shape especially when you dont even yet have a house to stay. If you keep on renting for the rest of your life, the rental prices will increase along with the capital appreciation and you will see your loses there. Ive done the calculations on paper comparing ASB loan and housing loan for rental before on THIS VERY THREAD a few months ago... look it up if you will 

2. For short term periods (2 to 5 years) the differences between investing directly into ASB based on the instalment that you would have paid to the bank for the ASB loan are not too different (not to mention the upfront cost of insurance and what not). So once, or if you decide to cut your loses by surrendering the the ASB loan, you can always invest to ASB directly. By using an ASB loan you are depriving yourself other loans that are more crucial such as the housing loan, one that should be a priority for a house-less lad like yourself.  sad.gif

I mean, if you already have 3 or 4 houses, 1 for staying and the other 3 for renting or flipping, then it would be very apt for you to weight the difference between getting an ASB loan and buying another property using a housing loan, but hey what did I say about this house-less lad again?
All in all, I blame the bankers who are less concerned about the clients financial well-being, lack of empathy for the working classes, and commission-minded predatory tactics. ASB loan has its pluses and minuses, but you wont be hearing the latter from the bankers.
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Well then, I think, I'll risk the effect on CTOS and CCRIS.. I can try improve my financial stability before applying another loan then to gain their trust.. You are right, I actually want the hosing loan that time because of the increment of the rental per year, compared to other loan (That time, bank even asked me to buy car first. watdeheck because they said I don't have any loan commitment for them to see vmad.gif )

QUOTE(navink @ Nov 18 2014, 02:45 PM)
wuwah.. a question..
how much is ur monthly ASB commitment?
how much is ur future house monthly commitment?
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Now, ASB actually 566.. If I got the house, monthly should be around RM900. But currently, the rental of the house for me to continue renting is RM2k. But the person that wanted to sell me the house told me, the house might be undervalued to bank valuer.. hence, if want to buy the house according to value of the seller, she wants me to pay a little more for the dp.. not sure this is legit or not sweat.gif

wuwah
post Nov 18 2014, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(navink @ Nov 18 2014, 03:46 PM)
wow.. so good.. monthly commitment only RM900 but the rental is RM2k.. biggrin.gif
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yup.. In super hot area somemore.. That's why I really want it last time.. now I'm super regret.. cry.gif

 

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