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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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spikey2506
post Oct 21 2011, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(da drummer @ Oct 20 2011, 03:21 PM)
confuse here...can we open a few asb account?
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ASB account cannot. But you can open a few loan accounts, as long as the total capital does not exceed 200K
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post Nov 2 2011, 01:09 AM

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Just look at it like this. Let say you are taking the 200K loan. So one month give or take RM1170 according the Maybank loan table. You pay for the first year, then starting from the second year onwards, you use the dividend and bonus to pay (Last year was 7.50% with bonus 1.25%) So how much capital that u used? RM1170x12=RM14040. Assuming the dividend rate stays stable, after 25 years you will get give or take RM470K in your ASB.
So initial capital RM14K. After 25 years turns into RM470K. You don't have to be a financial expert to see that the percentage of gain is BIG!
Entering second year, you don't have to service the loan anymore,you use the dividend to service it. So 1K extra per month to invest in other investments vehicles (Gold/other UTs/Property/etc) The key is to diversify your investments. You have the comfort in mind that after 25 years, there will be half a mil waiting for you.

BTW, this is a good ASB calculator using Excel spreadsheet. Download and play with it for a while. You will see my point.

http://www.irwan.biz/asb-calculator-v3/

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post Nov 2 2011, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Nov 2 2011, 03:15 PM)
if you take dividend each year, you will only get 200k after 25 years.
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Nope. Don't take all the dividend. Just take enough to service the loan, which is RM14K plus. Leave the rest of the dividend inside. Last year's rate was 7.50 and bonus 1.25, so you will get around RM15K plus. After first year instant 1K profit. Leave it inside, and with each passing year, do the same, never take more than the amount to pay the loan. With the power of compounding interest over 25 years, it will grow.

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post Nov 2 2011, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Nov 2 2011, 11:23 PM)
BLR currently is 6.60 %, do u think is it still financially worthwhile to takeup the ASB loan?

Besides, some of the loan officer told me when BLR increase, signify the economy is improving and the ASB dividend will increase accordingly. is it correct?

thanks.
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Currently, still worth it. MBB's lock in period is two years. If after that things doesn't go ur way, you can always cancel the loan. The dividends are still yours.
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post Nov 3 2011, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Nov 2 2011, 11:30 PM)
I planned to take CIMB bank loan coz it offered 4.65% for the first 2 yrs. besides, i got cimb bank accoutn, so it is more convenient to direct debit frm the same bank account, right? it is quite attractive, but the cons is its max tenure is only 20yrs. thats mean i cant have bigger cash flow each year. maybe i need partly finance the loan from my pocket.
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That's the main reason I took MBB, coz it offers 25 years tenure.

QUOTE(peachmonkey @ Nov 2 2011, 11:46 PM)
So basically if say the BLR increases to a point where the annual dividends cannot cover your loan repayment, you should cancel the loan and opt out?
Is that correct?

Reason I'm asking is how do we leverage out the ASB loan when say BLR increases and ASB dividend does not increase.
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Yup, precisely. After that just contribute your own capital into it
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post Nov 11 2011, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(AtMostFear @ Nov 11 2011, 11:59 AM)
I'm pretty sure those who take ASB loans only plan to pay the first year with their own money and later use the dividends to cover the rest of the instalments.

for example I took 100k loan for 25 years. I only have to commit about RM8k to pay for the first year. The rest of the years can be covered with the dividends.

Total money spent out of my pocket = 8k
Total money received after 25 years without doing anything = 100k

unless inflation gets crazy and 100k in 25 years is only worth 8k in current value, I don't see why ASB loan isn't a good choice.
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Exactly. That's why I didn't bother to reply to posts above you. They cannot see the point that we've been trying to make
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post Nov 11 2011, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Nov 11 2011, 12:08 PM)
Its depends on person itself as i can see it doesnt suit my needs. If emergency happens, i can withdraw my asb saving or pawn my gold or sell my silver bar..its easy to convert to cash.but different if u servicing loan for ASB..u cannot withdraw a bit from it and still need to continue pay the loan.
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We pay from the DIVIDEND. Get it? After the first year, we are free to use our money to invest in other things. You only pay for the first year. After that, you don't have to pay. Use DIVIDEND. Then, you can use your OWN money to invest in mutual funds, gold, silver, property, etc, while you get FREE money from ASB. Can you brain that?
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post Nov 11 2011, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Nov 11 2011, 12:23 PM)
ASB loan

1st year, use own money to pay loan, end of year get dividend.let say 8k.
2nd year, use 8k to pay loan..

Own

1st year saving with same amount with loan, end of year have 8k CASH in ASB book + dividend.
2nd year, continue saving.
When emergency struck in mid of 2nd year and u need 10k...which one is better?????

Loan - use dividend as emergency, then fork out your money continue pay loan
Cash - lalaalalalalalalalalaa...smile of the way looking your ASB passbook..
GET IT DUDE?
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Did you read the part that I said from the second year we can invest in other things? It's not like I put all my eggs in one basket. Oh yes, if emergency struck, I can get money from my Public Mutual, Gold, Silver. I can even sell my properties.
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post Jul 6 2013, 06:11 PM

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As per BNM latest directive that personal loans must not exceed 10 years, I guess ASB loans fall under this too? Or is it not? Any bankers can clarify?

 

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