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nawaler
post Mar 29 2016, 03:32 PM

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Hi all, can recommend any Maybank banker that can help secure ASB loan with 5 years takaful only.. JB area.. Hard to find one that willing to go through the hassle..
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post Nov 22 2016, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Nov 21 2016, 09:41 PM)
Whats is the pros and cons to take the loan with takaful?
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Loan is a debt, with takaful your debt will be settled in the event of your death, thats the pros.

Takaful is added cost to your loan principal amount, that the cons.

For my ASB loan I take takaful with full tenure, because my objective is long term...

It depend on your strategy...
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post Nov 22 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Nov 22 2016, 10:07 AM)
It is worth to take takaful?
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Investment wise, not worth..

Protection wise, worth it..
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post Nov 22 2016, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Nov 22 2016, 03:43 PM)
Just wondering which one is the best offer.

5.2%. 30 years.

Or

5.0%. 25 years.
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Longer tenure, lower monthly installment.. If u plan to roll your dividend to pay installments for 2nd year onwards u might want to consider your total annual installment vs dividend payout..
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post Nov 23 2016, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(akmalmacho @ Nov 23 2016, 04:41 PM)
HI, good ppl of FBI

Im currently 24 years old and planning to get  ASB loan (200k) for 30 years.

As for now I have 15k cash and planning to put it lumpsump to cover 1 year's installment. So my question is:

Is it true that i dont need to pay for upcoming year's installment just by using the dividend? Because some of my friends said that due to the bank interest rate the dividend would not be suffice to cover the installment plan.

P/S: Pardon me if my knowledge on ASB wasnt good. Hopefully members of the forum could help me. Thank you in advance!
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You plan to use the rolling dividend technique. In this technique dividend payout need to be higher than total annual installment or else u need to top up..

From last year dividend I need to top up my MBB ASB loan (25 years) installment but have extra cash from my CIMB ASB loan (30 years) installment. Both with takaful full tenure..

So beside bank profit rate we also need to consider ASB dividend trend. To minimize the impact u need to serve loan with longest tenure, lowest profit rate and no/less takaful.
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post Nov 29 2016, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(POYOZER @ Nov 28 2016, 05:25 PM)
Mind to eloborate more why 5.2% 30 Years much better than 5.0% 25 Years?

A. 5.2% 30 Years
Principal Rm100,000
Dividend Rm711,649 (7%)
Maturity Value Rm811,649
Total Repayment Rm550 x 360 = Rm198,000
Total Gain  Rm613,649

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B. 5.0% 25 Years
Principal Rm100,000
Dividend Rm472,541 (7%)
Maturity Value Rm572,541
Total Repayment Rm584 x 300 = Rm175,000
Total Gain Rm397,041

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Differences between 5.2% 30years and 5.0% 25years is Rm23,000.

If Option B continue investing in another instrument such as ASB2, assume dividend 7%, monthly deposit Rm584, duration 5 years.

Principal Rm572,541
Monthly Deposit Rm584
Dividend Rm42,054 (7%)
Maturity Value Rm853,702

Extra Profits Rm853,702 - Rm811,649 = Rm42,053
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Longer tenure loan more suitable for rolling dividend as installments on 2nd year onwards because monthly installment is low.

In your case u plan to pay installments from your own money & let the dividend compounding, thats why 25 years loan better ROI than 30 years loan.
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post Jan 6 2017, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(munky @ Jan 6 2017, 10:01 AM)
what i have in mind is like this (correct me if im wrong):

lets assume for 2017, dividend is 6.5%

so in my account now, i have RM192k (122k + 70k)

end of the year i will get RM192k x 0.065 = RM12.48k dividend

minus the installments i actually get 12.48k - 5.004k = about RM7.5k

scenario 2, without 70k loan:

so dividend is 122k x 0.065 = 7.93k

but since i have saved RM5.004k from not having to pay the loan, i can say that i get a total of 7.93k + 5.004k = about RM13k

so technically i get more money every year. But if i continue the loan until the end of the loan tenure, i will get more money in the asb

so what i would like to know now is, what if i plan to cancel the loan in maybe 3 or 4 years time? What is the amount that i would get?

im afraid that one day the dividend will be go lower than the interest rate
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From my understanding the 7.93K comes from dividend profit but the 5.004K comes from your own pocket (because u don't have the 70K loan anymore). So u don't get more actually.

U only get more when your loan principal amount reduces over the years.

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post Jan 6 2017, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(munky @ Jan 6 2017, 04:40 PM)
scenario 2, by not having to pay the loan, i plan to still save the same amount as the yearly installment into my asb account

if i terminate and reapply, will i get more money? i dont really get how this amortization works. All i can do is use a loan calculator to see the reduced balance. Still no idea how they calculate how much interest and principal i pay every month
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Getting more money means making money from OPM (Other People's Money). That is investing, what u plan to do is saving..
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post Sep 23 2017, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 21 2017, 09:17 AM)
Actually, how does the takaful affect the loan? for example: 30k loan, 5.2% and takaful around 1360. let say, if I cancel the financing, the remaining takaful will be reimburse back to me? and at this point, is the 30k loan already reduced a bit?
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Takaful is an added capital. Even they reimburse back after u cancel the loan still won't get full amount, need to consider losses there.
In your example total loan will be RM31,360, monthly repayments reduces principal from there. U need to wait till it reduces lower than RM30k to make profit from terminating your loan. If not you will need to pay the differences.
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post Sep 28 2017, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(SupremeLahh7 @ Sep 28 2017, 12:07 AM)
Hi, I need to ask something, my loan just approved, I have signed with my agent, will be start paying on November. But I notice the PRTT(insurance) is for 30years........I wanna terminate after 7 years. Will Maybank refund the balance of the insurance fee after i terminate or not. Tqvm!
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First u need to understand that the insurance is paid full amount by Maybank to insurer (Etiqa Takaful) and then added to your ASB loan..

So for refund it will be insurer (Etiqa Takaful) responsibility, Maybank will only assist u by informing them your loan is terminated..

Of course they will refund the balance, dont worry..
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post Sep 28 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(SupremeLahh7 @ Sep 28 2017, 09:27 AM)
Phew..thanks. I applied when the interest is 5.2%. 50k, and the monthly repayment is 277. Is it ok? If ok I wanna shoot another loan..
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Wow, your monthly repayments is lower than mine.. Just shoot another and aim for 4.8% interest..
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post Sep 28 2017, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(SupremeLahh7 @ Sep 28 2017, 04:07 PM)
Haha really? Maybe bcoz 30years loan. Will do. Tqtq
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I thought Maybank only have 25years max tenure.. Nice if they have 30years tenure now.. Tqtq
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post Sep 28 2017, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Sep 28 2017, 05:11 PM)
Eh, last time i got 2.x k something from maybank, for 26 years.. How come you only have to pay thar amount?
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Age factor I guess.. The benefit of early age financial management awareness..
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post Feb 6 2019, 07:38 AM

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QUOTE(NikTaMere @ Feb 6 2019, 02:03 AM)
Hi All,

Just want to check with you guys, in a situation where a person is taking  a 200k asbf, as the years go by, he would’ve accumulated some dividends and paid principals. I know that you can't do hibah amanah on the certificates which are still under financing. But can you do hibah amanah on the dividends and principals accumulated, which now belong to you, irregardles if you continue or terminate your asbf. Has anyone successfully subscribed to hibah amanah for these portions? Mind sharing your experience?
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U can hibah ur dividends but not ur principal.. because dividends is in cash inside ur asb account, but principal is in ur loan account with the bank..

In the hibah form nowhere to indicate ur holding with PNB (cash/certificates) so nowhere can tell what can & cannot be hibah..

The simple rule is that all cash inside all our PNB account will be hibah up to 10 person by percentage. We need to maintain minimum RM1000 in the account (not sure if per account or total).
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post Jul 19 2020, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Jul 18 2020, 10:18 PM)
Is this RM50 a one time cost or there are other costs?
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One time cost.. RM50 if u pre-reg online, RM100 if u walk in..
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post Jul 21 2020, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ Jul 20 2020, 11:45 PM)
I've checked. It's RM10 per year plus ~2.5K for 200K money in the account. It's a daylight robbery if you ask me. It's just a "penama" for crying out loud. Why must they charge you thousands?
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I have no comment about the charges..

Just to point out that "Penama" is wasi that will distribute the money according to consensus or faraid. Like "Penama" in EPF & TH.

Different than this Hibah service by ASNB/ARB the money will be given directly to the namelist. Just like Hibah Takaful. It will not be included for faraid..

 

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