ASB loan, worth to get it???
ASB loan, worth to get it???
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Jan 1 2019, 02:44 PM
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MyASB portal got dormant period? My account have been frozen, have not logged in for quite sometime
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Jan 1 2019, 02:55 PM
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I mean, it has already been frozen. Tried logging in just now
Akaun anda telah dibekukan disebabkan polisi dorman kami. Sila hubungi myASNB Portal Contact Centre di 03 β 8026 8101. Hoping the account can be reactivated by just a phone call, not like PMO which require going to their counter to reactivate. |
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Jan 2 2019, 10:08 PM
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For me, in order to understand how ASB loan works, there are two aspects that one really need to understand:
1) ASB Dividend calculation - this should be super easy. Only require 2-3 cells of excel to calculate also.. 2) Loan calculation - this should be the trickier part, at least it was for me. I simply could not grasp how this loan can be beneficial, until I managed to understand the amortization table (interest + principal), and how to play around with it. So, to anyone who still have doubts, head over to google and search amortization table, and learn how to use it |
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Jan 6 2019, 09:24 PM
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How soon should one be shopping around and apply for new loan with lower rate? How many years into the current loan is advisable to do that? Thanks guys..
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Mar 14 2019, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Mar 14 2019, 08:30 PM) I believe it's still too early to terminate without owing the bank.. I suggest you strap in till you break even at least, before terminating and getting better rates. Typically 2-3 years of compounded dividend should suffice. Decision is yours though. Wonder if anyone has done the calculation to break even, to determine that it may be too early to terminate current loan.. |
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Apr 3 2019, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(buggie @ Apr 3 2019, 08:19 PM) 10 years is nothing Bro... Pejam kelip and before you know it... Exactly happened to me. Kinda regret that I didn't do this when first started working in 2010. Only applied ASBf in 2016, and ASB2f a year later. Its true better late than never, but I really took too much time to completely understand how to correctly calculate loans and use amortization table.Then you'd be on easy street and so many more options will open up for you when u have funds at your disposal In my experience, Your income is not gonna be stagnant. Pretty soon the 2k odd you're paying is merely just a pinch. Tak rasa pun |
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Jul 6 2019, 07:08 PM
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So should those interested to apply wait for next OPR adjustment, just to see it will increase? Of course difficult to predict, tengok2 decrease lagi to the joy of current investors
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Dec 22 2019, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Dec 20 2019, 03:37 PM) Malaysia has too small a market, in 2018 ASB's NAV was RM180B, now it is bigger. They need to start looking into overseas market, not far, just Singapore will do as plenty of Fortune 500 companies listed there Hmm I was just thinking that we as Malaysians have failed ourselves, seeing all these money available to be pooled as big capital for our large scale business. I mean, only if we as group is as half of business savvy/minded as those China men.Even EPF have opened up, out of necessities because their AUM is 500B. How can they generate good, steady income with 500B in Malaysia alone? Back to topic, I am not cancelling my ASB loan yet, I believe for those who have served their loans for several years already should not panic yet. But ya it is not a good news who just recently take up their loans. |
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May 7 2020, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ May 7 2020, 07:04 AM) It is a difficult question to answer as there are those who have lost faith in the fund. There are a few what-if situations at hand here: Referring red bold statement, my reaction would be, who should I trust then if not PNB? The alternatives have myriad other service/management charges as well to make their funds more unattractive in my eyes. What's the guarantee they will do better than PNB?a. if it turns out that the fund would give less than the prevailing ASBF rates, then you would have made some losses b. if it turns out that the fund would give more than the prevailing ASBF rates, then you would have made some profit We are at a crossroad where profitability is not guaranteed. However keep in mind that PNB's mandate to maximize their funds' returns remain in tact. If you still believe in them, you can start your ASBF as soon as you are able to, simply to maximize the growth of your softcap To me the only real good alternative in current situation is to start learning how to invest in stock market and investing myself, and what a time to start, can potentially get good stocks in current market (Sapura Energy hovering around 7 to 10 cents now LOL, I know they have management problems and OnG instability, its contoh only OK?). So an option is to cancel the ASBf, and use the freed up money to invest in stock market....... ......or to me a better option, refinance ASBf at significantly lower rates currently being offered (I've been told a bank is offering 4% after OPR cut), leave the old dividend to compound together with the new refinance loan, and use the returned principal to try investing in stock market. An option I decide to take now. Been on ASBf since 2016, so the principal return should be more than sufficient for me to learn and have fun P/S: I dunno, but I despise Unit Trust out there, especially the bigger ones who train their agents to flaunt their financial wellbeing to attract people. I mean, didnt they buy cars/expensive watches using their allowances, which come from their clients being charged with some nonsense fees? Dunno, probably its just me who do not understand haha..nvm just to wanna share with the world what I think |
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May 8 2020, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ May 8 2020, 09:53 AM) I agree with you, an alternative portfolio would be to directly invest in the stock market, but only do it if you really know what you are doing. Well, I only learn best by hands on doing stuffs, and especially when i start losing QUOTE(wild_card_my @ May 8 2020, 09:53 AM) Btw, I have something to say about the OPR cut and its effect on new loans Lower OPR doesn't mean cheaper financing for all they may actually be launching the financing again for ASB2F because they want to explore the new overseas market. I have all of you (my current clients) on my broadcast list, just make sure you have added me into your contact lists, because I can't send any broadcast to those who do not have me in their contact list If they do, then tarik refinance application lor. But at least that is what the loan agent told me. I think within this very short window, there is an opportunity I stand to be corrected if my understanding is off, still learning |
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Jul 4 2020, 07:48 PM
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Guys, just wondering, at this current market condition, is it more beneficial to ASB funds if more people to take ASBf? Or do PNB quietly hope less people taking loans for the time being until market improve? Haha..
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Jul 15 2020, 08:40 PM
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Got quick glance at TV3 shown in restaurant just now, i think PNB shared their strategy with the funds. Couldnt catch more detail, just passby only. Anyone caught the news share2 la aa..
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Oct 11 2020, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(PPZ @ Oct 11 2020, 12:52 PM) Thatβs right. My wife has asb 1 and me too. Maybe in the future got open asb 2 will go for it. K Maybe cause its the ultimate tongkat?? By the way guys, this loan can be terminate anytime right? I just wondering why can terminate just like that if this is similar with housing loan etc? Not the same for housing loan, what do we have to return to the bank? The money we borrowed at the first place? Or we return the house? Banks are struggling to clear off auction property nowadays, why would they accept our house? haha.. |
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Oct 15 2020, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Oct 14 2020, 11:54 AM) you need to check at each of every bank branch. If there is a customer who terminate their asb2 financing the quota will be open. But i can say many already in the waiting list. So its hard to apply. Better to wait until they increase the quota or introdude asb3. Moreover now many bank offer refinance to reduce the financing rates. There's rumor for ASB3F? First time i heard of it, sorry if its been mentioned here before hehe.. |
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Oct 23 2020, 07:34 PM
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Just went to HLBB today asking their current ASBF offer. 3.55% for 200k loan, age limit until 65 y.o, insurance not compulsory.
If i am not mistaken some bank like ambank has age limit until 70 y.o. No ASB2F yet. |
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Oct 26 2020, 06:24 PM
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Jan 30 2021, 12:42 AM
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I think we all can use a new thread where 1st post showing offers from all banks. Can compare insurance vs noninsurance rates too. Just a wish. Not sure who is really that rajin to maintain it hehe..
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Feb 7 2021, 07:58 PM
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Dear all, in your opinion, should ASB diversify to foreign market? Will they? Asking because UT funds investing in Asia Pacific market. for example, has had good performance, especially from Mar'20 - Jan'21.
Is it time for Bumis to now have shares in Samsung? Haha.. |
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Feb 14 2021, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(nBaqi @ Feb 10 2021, 11:12 AM) Call the ASNB hotline, tell them about this and they will restore it in within 1 hour. My case was the same. It's their policy those who didn't login within a year will get dormant. Thanks bro, but the post is 2 years old already, so I've already fixed it QUOTE(hellremix @ Feb 14 2021, 03:07 PM) Hi guys, You already know how much interest you paid and compare with the dividend you received?Just wondering, is it still a good idea to take the asb loan?. It seems the dividend last year cannot cover the loan interest. I already have the loan, and thinking to stop it. What do you think?. |
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Feb 15 2021, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(hellremix @ Feb 15 2021, 05:23 PM) Not in details, but roughly calculated, it seems the dividend I got is lesser than the amount I paid in a year. To think about it, what you guys said is true, if I use the Rolling technique, or take out the dividend every year, then surely the amount will be less, but if I let it there, then it might be able to cope with the loan interest. Good, but you can assure yourself further by calculating what you actually get right? I wanna do mine as I have let my ASB2F to compound for several years d, but I think I misplaced my ASB2F 2017/18 statements. Just called the bank to resend me a copy of the statements, so I can calculate myself Thanks guys |
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