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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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clutchkick
post Nov 11 2011, 10:45 AM

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Stay away from this ASB loan guys. If this is good, why instead of Maybank or CIMB, PNB didn't promote this? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 11 2011, 11:33 AM

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Tell me if ASB loan if smart enough. Say you commit RM1k each month for this loan, suddenly any emergency occur. Do you have the money from ASB? Might as well you deposit 1k manually. Haha.

By the time you finish the loan tenure, say RM200k for 20years, the amount RM200k in 20 years to come is not the same as today anymore. You are smart smile.gif


Added on November 11, 2011, 11:34 am
QUOTE(potenza10 @ Nov 11 2011, 11:29 AM)
Hahahaha...to pay loan for ASB 200k? other needed how? house? just rent till your ASB loan settle? die laaa...
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post Nov 11 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Nov 11 2011, 11:37 AM)
For saving or investment in amanah saham, it is better if we do by our own...if emergency, we can withdraw easily.if pay loan, its burnt lahhhh
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I can smell that you know what I mean. Hopefully the rest understand. Simple!

Loan=commitment=bank get profit? We? For the sake of the current value that we see now, which is much more less once the loan is finished smile.gif

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post Nov 11 2011, 11:56 AM

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Same here, I was influenced by my dad about this ASB loan. He told me the same thing that our friend share here, dividend pay here and there and blablabla. About 3 months later I went to the bank and cancel, of course I need to pay some penalty for it. Better loss now then lot more later.

I think we all know that banks here always make money and play with us. Seldomly we play and make money with banks, and there are methods to!
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post Nov 11 2011, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Nov 11 2011, 12:23 PM)
ASB loan

1st year, use own money to pay loan, end of year get dividend.let say 8k.
2nd year, use 8k to pay loan..

Own

1st year saving with same amount with loan, end of year have 8k CASH in ASB book + dividend.
2nd year, continue saving.
When emergency struck in mid of 2nd year and u need 10k...which one is better?????

Loan - use dividend as emergency, then fork out your money continue pay loan
Cash - lalaalalalalalalalalaa...smile of the way looking your ASB passbook..
GET IT DUDE?
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It's ok la potenza10. They are smarter, paying for example RM80k in total to get RM50k beforehand. Smart.
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post Nov 11 2011, 12:40 PM

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How long you can sell your properties? Split seconds? When emergency really need solid cash whatsoever urgently?

Paying up more than what you get and you should get is smart. Seriously smart smile.gif
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post Nov 11 2011, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Nov 11 2011, 02:36 PM)
Great!

If u save 1k per month with dividend 600 end year, you will get 12600 and its TOTALLY yours!

If take loan, pay 1k per month and get dividend 10k end year, what is TOTALLY yours? 2nd year still short 2k lah if use dividend along still not enough to cover?

Aiyahhh..just see the diff in term of end year dividend only.


Added on November 11, 2011, 3:07 pmLet put it this way lah

bank got 1mil to loan out and want to take advantage of asb dividend.so what they do? They offer loan facilties to BUMIPUTERA to take the loan.so,what is the summary? Banks will get benefit of the dividend for whole tenure when the 'smarters' group say 2nd year onwards just use the dividend to pay monthly loan and put a hope when end of loan tenure, they will get total amount of monies with inflation factor 3% per year...hahahahaha..
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You know bank already calculate all this interest, dividend and so on. Of course bank will make profit, if not they won't introduce this. If one side is gaining, what happend to the other side? During emergency, why do you need to sell back your loan+interest+penalty when you actually can use your own savings?

For example if you need instantly RM20k NOW (for medical matter or family matter or whatever), do you really have the CASH? Yes, CASH? Yes, go and get from ASB loan biggrin.gif
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post Nov 13 2011, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Nov 12 2011, 11:20 AM)
Kepada semua ahli forum yang dihormati.

Izinkan saya berkongsi hasil pengiraan saya yang tidak mempunyai latarbelakang ekonomi.

Mari kita ambil contoh kes pinjaman asb selama 30thn berjumlah 100k. Kadar inflasi negara kita yang dicintai ialah 3% setahun, jadinya jumlah terkumpul selama 30thn ialah 90%! Ini bermakna, nilai wang 100k pada 30thn ke hadapan adalah bersamaan dengan nilai jumlah wang 10k pada tahun ini. Oleh itu, dengan bermodalkan 12k duit sendiri pada tahun pertama pinjaman asb dan mengharapkan wang 100k pada 30thn kehadapan yang sebenarnya hanya bernilai 10k pada tahun ini adalah amat tidak berbaloi.

Ini belum mengambil kira risiko perubahan pada kadar BLR dan juga kadar pulangan dividen asb yang tidak dijanjikan akan tetap pada 7% selama 30thn. Jika digoogle sejarah pembayaran dividen asb sejak ianya dilancarkan pada 1990, pulangan pada 10tahun terakhir adalah berkurangan jika dibandingkan pada 10tahun terawal.

Sekian.
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post Nov 14 2011, 12:53 AM

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For me,

1. interest is crazy, plus inflation factor blablabla
2. loan is debt, not a good debt

Start savings and buy property(location, location, location). ASB loan is not a savings smile.gif
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post Nov 14 2011, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(ooorait @ Nov 14 2011, 03:29 PM)
for me.. why do u need to loan for ur savings?
rite now, everything is 'comel'.. ur monthly bayaran is 'cantik'..
but what happen in the future when u need to use money for emergency?
personally, i save a portion from my salary and put it in asb..
i have more, i put more. i have less, i put less.. i hv none, i put none..

and if there is economy guru here that can justify loan asb vs own saving.. this will be purrrfect XD
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Exactly, you are right.

Usually people pay out rent, car, bill and blablaba. Provided if there is any balance from salary minus those commitment there goes the saving for that current month.

As for me I practise, pay myself first before I pay the rest (property,rent,bills,etc). Thankgod this works for me.

 

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