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cheahcw2003
post Apr 5 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(mars1069 @ Apr 5 2010, 07:41 PM)
no, he is "pure" Serani, both his parents are Serani in Melaka's Portugese Settlement, he told me all Serani is Bumi, sounds very interesting wink.gif need to dig my Kamus Dewan to check the meaning of "Bumi" sweat.gif
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Serani/Portugese are considered Minority that allowed to invest in ASB scheme. This group shd be considered Bumi by defination, as this group of ppl already in Malaya b4 the Srivijaya/Majapahit influence to Malaya. But then many states (except for Melaka) do not recognise Portugese in other states, like in KL/Selangor, they do not enjoy bumi discount when buying property in these states.
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post Apr 6 2010, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(otherwise @ Apr 6 2010, 04:24 PM)
I just met Maybank to enquire on the ASB loan. So far i feel its worth because ASB calculate divident by monthly min balance. So ASB will count our dividen base on the borrowing amount which is bigger compare on self money saving.

They told me for the first year we just need to pay rm300 per month but the following years we only need to pay rm88 after deduct the dividen of 7% up to 15 years of loan duration.

Now im not sure which bank is offer better between CIMB and Maybank. Maybe someone can advise.

Thanks.
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depends on what package u r looking at, RHB has a package that for the 1st 3 years u do not need to serve the monthly instalment (capital portion), u only need to serve the interest rate, so it will reduce your burden. U can call RHB and ask for details
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post Sep 21 2011, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(ak.hazwan @ Aug 29 2011, 11:09 AM)
Mind to share why Maybank Islamic "HOLD" all application for ASBLOAN?  sad.gif
Great Magic money rite? Invest RM13k 1st year, then wait 25 years, get 200k  rclxms.gif
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The beauty is if u take 200k loan for 20 years, and serve the monthly instalment of rm1200 per month, with the power of compunded interest u can easily become a millionaire in 20 years. The only affort is to serve tge monthly instalment promptly and believe the power of compounding. Bumiputera is forced to become a millionaire if u follow the scheme.
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post Oct 7 2011, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(AtMostFear @ Oct 7 2011, 02:53 PM)
just found out if we do the loan, we'll get the loan amount deposited in certificate form into our ASB account. how do we check if the loan money is deposited already then? cause if we update our book it won't show the money in certificate form..please correct me I'm wrong.
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When converting to certificate, bank will keep the original as collateral. U can get the bank to give u a photo copy. When u receive your asb annual statement, it will be stated in the statement which X amount of money is kept in the "sijil" form.


Added on October 7, 2011, 4:49 pm
QUOTE(AtMostFear @ Oct 7 2011, 02:53 PM)
just found out if we do the loan, we'll get the loan amount deposited in certificate form into our ASB account. how do we check if the loan money is deposited already then? cause if we update our book it won't show the money in certificate form..please correct me I'm wrong.
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When converting to certificate, bank will keep the original as collateral. U can get the bank to give u a photo copy. When u receive your asb annual statement, it will be stated in the statement which X amount of money is kept in the "sijil" form.

This post has been edited by cheahcw2003: Oct 7 2011, 04:49 PM
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post Nov 22 2011, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(shain87 @ Nov 22 2011, 07:52 PM)
which one is a best method to make sure we get the good profit from asb.
1) make a personal loan with bank and put all the money to asb acc
2) make a asb loan at any bank that offer for this loan.
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the answer is No.2.
personal loan usually charge higher interest, and increase your cost of funding
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post Dec 16 2011, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(hewittsteven @ Dec 8 2011, 01:27 PM)
Bank Rakyat Share currently allow maximum RM 500 top up and new account also maximum RM500.. 

As i only able to put RM500. I also request for another 20k but until now not receive any new from Bank Rakyat sad.gif
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what is the max limit one can buy Bank Rakyat's shares?
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post Dec 23 2011, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Dec 21 2011, 12:51 PM)
Now everytime you go to Maybank to open ASB account the salesperson will push you really hard until you agree to take this loan  shakehead.gif
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It is a fully secured loan with low risk, bank for sure for targetting on this since BNM has tightened the mortgage loan.
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post Dec 24 2011, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(da drummer @ Dec 23 2011, 11:36 PM)
im lucky coz open asb acc at post office..so no salesperson smile.gif...btw can we potong our salary straight for asb?
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If your ASB loan and payroll account in the same bank, it is possible.
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post Sep 30 2014, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(Seng_Kiat @ Sep 17 2014, 09:07 PM)
I am not sure of ASB limit either 200k or 250k .. If 250k is the limit, you have no issue to top up ..
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Max 200k
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post Sep 30 2014, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Sep 30 2014, 10:09 AM)
That is the capital limit whereas actual ceiling limit is more than 200k, depends on how much u let the dividend inside the account.
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post Dec 29 2015, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(soulmixx @ Dec 29 2015, 12:07 PM)
ASNB just stated that dividend for ASB 2015 is 7.25sen + 0.50sen.. quite low..
don't know if still worth to take/keep ASB loan?
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I might discontinue the ASB loan, the gap between the ASB return and interest rate is too small
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Dec 29 2015, 12:25 PM)
i think thats not the main advantage of asb loan..maybe u dont really understand the concept  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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U do not understand those investors who have a choice not to borrow to max up the ASB account.
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post Dec 29 2015, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Dec 29 2015, 01:12 PM)
we are talking about asb LOAN right

if u have extra cash that good for u lorr

the asb cert value is consistent

the loan is diminishing value

enough said  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

p/s : i dont have asb loan..lol
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Comparing to invest in ASB loan and without loan, loan is the cost of investment, with the gap narrow down, less motivation to invest using loan
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Dec 29 2015, 09:12 PM)
Nothing new and the video is for beginner without CF knowledge
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post Dec 29 2015, 11:38 PM

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[quote=Davez89,Dec 29 2015, 09:12 PM]
[quote=cheahcw2003,Dec 29 2015, 07:34 PM]Comparing to invest in ASB loan and without loan, loan is the cost of investment, with the gap narrow down, less motivation to invest using loan
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double post.
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you posted twice so i reply u twice.

Don't get me wrong, the reason i compare is based on the condition that one has the cash to fill up the ASB limit instead of taking loan. When the interest rate is low, and ASB return is high it make sense to borrow to invest.

When the surplus gap in between the loan and ASB return is narrowed down, those who already have loan may consider to undo the loan, and invest somewhere else.
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QUOTE(T231H @ Dec 30 2015, 06:25 AM)
Investing In Amanah Saham via Personal Loan, should you or should you not?
.....with a few scenarios ...
http://invest-made-easy.blogspot.my/2013/0...a-personal.html
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The scenerios have excluded the opportunity costs.
Once you take the ASB loan, it will be listed in the Ccris, and affect your future borrowing capacity, as when you want to apply car loan and housing loan.
The scenarios are too simple but it's good for basic understanding of how to use OPM in maximising ROI.
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post Dec 30 2015, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Dec 30 2015, 01:07 PM)
sure why not.. tapi banyak lagi alternative lain..
boleh bagi pendapatan dividen from LASB.. untuk support future housing/car loan

dividen boleh jadi side income.. tapi sekarang dah makin turun..  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Yes dividend can support loan applications provided the ASB certificate is Unencumbered.
Did that. My dividend from my ASW/ASD do support my loan application
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post Dec 30 2015, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(peja5081 @ Dec 30 2015, 03:24 PM)
Yaa i also think it is insurance. But i already got prudential so dont think i can get double insurance if something happen.so might just can cel that rm 5 insurance.but donno can or not.
For cimb loan all branch have or certain branch only provide asb loan?
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Refer back your LO. If indicates insurance is optional and not a condition precedent then u can cancel it.
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post Dec 31 2015, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Dec 31 2015, 07:08 AM)
Agree that it will effect CCRIS. Asb is by no means the best investment vehicle. It's just one investment vehicle to consider. Other investments can bring better returns, like property, opening a business etc...

Investors should get their priorities right. If you've already bought a house, or in between buying houses or don't need that new car just yet, then take the loan. If you need to free up your CCRIS, then terminate the loan. Planning is key. And consider your budget and earning capacity.

If you've got nothing else to invest in or nowhere else to put your money then take the loan. When a new opportunity arises that you think will bring more income then terminate the loan. If your earning capacity can support both then go all the way!
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well said
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Dec 31 2015, 09:44 PM)
You're right. But how many of us are married with both spouse having 200k in our ASB? smile.gif I personally dont have a ASB loan cause I dont like to be tied to a bank. It will effect my job choice, my lifestyle etc. But my husband does because he has quite a stable job and our installment is about 10% salary only. Forced savings  biggrin.gif

Yes properties take more effort n risk. Bigger returns need bigger effort n risk ma biggrin.gif But I have almost 10 yrs experience of managing rentals, so that's within my alley. Some people may prefer stocks, gold, forex etc.

In the end, it all depends on your investment goals and your risk appetite  nod.gif
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i am with yu, i prefer rental income.

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