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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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post Jan 29 2014, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(MonkeyDSoul @ Jan 28 2014, 03:54 PM)
Loan ASB Maybank Islamic dont have lock in period. Conventional not sure. How about CIMB?
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maybank islamic offer asb loan ka?
asb loan itself is conventional? hmm.gif
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post Jan 29 2014, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(cikalakacikaci @ Jan 29 2014, 10:57 PM)
maybank islamic offer asb loan ka?
asb loan itself is conventional? hmm.gif
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What do u mean? U mixed up your question.
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post Jan 29 2014, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Jan 30 2014, 12:41 AM)
What do u mean? U mixed up your question.
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i mean maybank islamic offer asb loan ka bcause asb loan is not islamic. nod.gif
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QUOTE(cikalakacikaci @ Jan 29 2014, 11:46 PM)
i mean maybank islamic offer asb loan ka bcause asb loan is not islamic.  nod.gif
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they got offer. got 2 types conventional and islamic. blr are same. the different is only lock in period

conventional 2 yrs while islamic no lock in period
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post Jan 30 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Jan 26 2014, 12:22 AM)
Loan ASB is better than own saving. Fullstop.
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Unker potenza, I thought u support own saving all these while? Read whole thread last night
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QUOTE(cikalakacikaci @ Jan 29 2014, 11:46 PM)
i mean maybank islamic offer asb loan ka bcause asb loan is not islamic.  nod.gif
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ASB loan is just a "loan".

Loan has 2 type in the market: Conventional and Islamic.

If you can buy car using Islamic loan, why not for ASB? It is just a loan where you buy a certificate from ASB.

You might be confused with the "hukum" of ASB and "hukum" of loan. Loan itself by "hukum" is haram when involving interest. ASB is deemed gray area as there is some questionable element.
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QUOTE(MaGNiFiCo @ Jan 30 2014, 09:37 AM)
they got offer. got 2 types conventional and islamic. blr are same. the different is only lock in period

conventional 2 yrs while islamic no lock in period
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bfr for maybank islamic financing has been revised..it is now only -1.15 of bfr
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post Jan 30 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Jan 30 2014, 11:31 AM)
Unker potenza, I thought u support own saving all these while? Read whole thread last night
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Yes..before this I didn't see in big picture. Aftet I get it, it's better with asb loan. More ROI
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post Jan 30 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Jan 30 2014, 03:58 PM)
Yes..before this I didn't see in big picture. Aftet I get it, it's better with asb loan. More ROI
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me tooo... biggrin.gif

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post Jan 30 2014, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Jan 30 2014, 03:58 PM)
Yes..before this I didn't see in big picture. Aftet I get it, it's better with asb loan. More ROI
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Unker, can j kindly share when me what are the steps that u have taken and what have u achieved?

It will be much helpful for newbies like us who are still confused
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Jan 30 2014, 06:24 PM)
Unker, can j kindly share when me what are the steps that u have taken and what have u achieved?

It will be much helpful for newbies like us who are still confused
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which part u still not clear bro? smile.gif
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post Feb 2 2014, 06:30 PM

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STRATEGI PELABURAN ASB: SIMPAN SENDIRI vs 'LOAN' ASB case study: simpan bulan2 RM1200 vs LASB 200k, dgn div ASB 7.5% pa.
Kedudukan kewangan selepas...
TAHUN.....simpanan.......LASB.......LOAN BALANCE.....NET
5...............81K..............287K...........178K................109K
10...........197K..............412K............149K...............263K
15 ..........303K..............592K........... 112K...............480K
20...........601K..............850K..............63K...............787K
25...........942K............1220K..............0.................1220K

NOTA: 1.Loan balance diperolehi dari loan amortization schedule 2. Total investment (money out of our pocket) for both cases is RM1200x12x25= RM360k


As you can see above, ROI using ASB loan is more compare saving using your own money.
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QUOTE(masami @ Jan 30 2014, 03:24 PM)
bfr for maybank islamic financing has been revised..it is now only -1.15 of bfr
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What is the effect of the new bfr? Better roi?
Or older rate is better?
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post Feb 3 2014, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(solsekuin44 @ Feb 2 2014, 09:09 PM)
What is the effect of the new bfr? Better roi?
Or older rate is better?
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Bfr is still same...6.6%...
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post Feb 3 2014, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Feb 3 2014, 08:52 AM)
Bfr is still same...6.6%...
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yes bfr is still the same 6.6
but the new new package is only minus 1.15 effectively 5.45
whereas the old one is minus 1.65 or effectively 4.95

so the old one is better..the new one is not attractive at all..for a smaller loan i think one has to top up the different in monthly payment and dividend.

but for maybank conventional... it stays the same 6.6-1.65
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post Feb 4 2014, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Feb 2 2014, 06:30 PM)
STRATEGI PELABURAN ASB: SIMPAN SENDIRI vs 'LOAN' ASB case study: simpan bulan2 RM1200 vs LASB 200k, dgn div ASB 7.5% pa.
Kedudukan kewangan selepas...
TAHUN.....simpanan.......LASB.......LOAN BALANCE.....NET
5...............81K..............287K...........178K................109K
10...........197K..............412K............149K...............263K
15 ..........303K..............592K........... 112K...............480K
20...........601K..............850K..............63K...............787K
25...........942K............1220K..............0.................1220K

NOTA: 1.Loan balance diperolehi dari loan amortization schedule 2. Total investment (money out of our pocket) for both cases is RM1200x12x25= RM360k
As you can see above, ROI using ASB loan is more compare saving using your own money.
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This is true. However, we have to also consider for the long run. This ASB loan will affect your credit rating at CCRIS and thus might become an obstacle when you want to apply for housing loan etc in the future.
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QUOTE(Nidz @ Feb 4 2014, 10:38 AM)
This is true. However, we have to also consider for the long run. This ASB loan will affect your credit rating at CCRIS and thus might become an obstacle when you want to apply for housing loan etc in the future.
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I dont think it is an obstacle. You need to pay yourself first before paying others. Take the loan only if you have confident enough of not taking any big loan in the coming 3 years.
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post Feb 4 2014, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Feb 4 2014, 10:38 AM)
This is true. However, we have to also consider for the long run. This ASB loan will affect your credit rating at CCRIS and thus might become an obstacle when you want to apply for housing loan etc in the future.
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Boss Nidz, i apply asb loan after bought my 1st house....and some says if you have asb loan with let say maybank, they will offset the installment and take it as an income when you apply other loan...but of course after few years servicing your asb loan without any bad record.

and i double check with my rhb friends and yes, they will consider as an income.

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Feb 4 2014, 12:41 PM)
Boss Nidz, i apply asb loan after bought my 1st house....and some says if you have asb loan with let say maybank, they will offset the installment and take it as an income when you apply other loan...but of course after few years servicing your asb loan without any bad record.

and i double check with my rhb friends and yes, they will consider as an income.
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Owh, I got the same case. My friend want to buy a second hand car, but all bank reject coz records too "clean".

If you never take a loan before, banks will be hesitant to give you a new loan. So how to loan if you never apply a loan but need a loan to approve for your loan? rclxub.gif

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