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post Mar 23 2020, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 19 2020, 06:53 PM)
Hi Saalam/ greetings all. Hope u all doing well.

If we apply moratorium extension, is it apply to the bank or pnb.
Pls explain I'm not sure whether need to apply it or not.
If we apply meaning the Sijil at pnb will cancel for 6 months ? Making it no investment 200k at pnb? So we loose 6 months interest? Or does the bank extend the payment and tenure for 6 months?

Nway pls stay safe everyone. God bless♥️
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post Mar 23 2020, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 23 2020, 03:34 PM)
Alaikumussalam wbt

As I was made to understand, the moratorium is on the loan repayment, not on the investment certificate. Which means it is "beneficial" to you in that you are exempted from paying the installments for the time being. Your interests will simply pile up but at least you get to live. Once this is over I expect that they will ask you to pay extra on top of your installments each month to cover the interests that has been piling up.

I am quite sure however, that your certificate with PNB remains in tact and you would be earnin the distribution on 2nd January 2021, whatever it is.
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Tq bro u always reply on time😊

Bro, meaning if we apply the moratorium the principal is same as before got reduction ?

So bottom line is, is beneficial lah if we apply since the bank institution NVR disturb our investment fund and distribution at pnb ryte? So NVR rugi ryte ? What u think bro good to take this opportunity ke?

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post Mar 23 2020, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 23 2020, 04:05 PM)
Yes, if you do not pay your installment, how would your loan principal (or loan balance) be reduced? In fact, as how I was made to understand your bank will continue to charge interests on the loan balance (reducing balance interest calculation, the interest is calculated based on your loan balance), of which you will likely have to pay after this is over - the only difference between the banks would be how would they calculate your repayment of the interests?

I doubt they would ask you to pay them all in lump-sum, it would probably be amortized over your remaining tenure and you would have to pay more in terms of your installment. This is something no one yet knows how the bank go about.

In general, yes I would say to get the moratorium if you qualify for it. You do not know what will happen in the next few months, if you can afford to set money aside, do so, perhaps buy the discounted counters (equities)... keep in mind, this is all unprecedented. I can only help in terms of the technicals, but in terms of managing your portfolio? Well none of you are paying me to do that are you?

Wait, yes, some of you are based on my other consultancy activities. Hahaha
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Well alrighty then, I think will stick to the normal routine paying mode... Since don't want to loose the principal reducing balance interest.
Appreciate the advice 😊

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post Mar 23 2020, 05:06 PM

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Bro question just to ask if under moratorium 6 months, crris n Ctos will reflect ke as default payment? If yes then how future loan application pulak...hmmm
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post Mar 23 2020, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 23 2020, 05:25 PM)
When I asked some officers they said it would be "forgiven" and it would not be shown as late payment. Banks have to update BNM on their customers' repayment records, with the moratorium it should arranged right. But please ask the officer you are applying this from.

In the worst case scenario, even if you CCRIS is affected and you want to apply for a new loan in the future you can:

1. make a full settlement of the ASBF anytime as your loan balance should be lower than your ASB certificate value
2. use the moratorium document as proof of your "delinquency"
3. just pay your installments on time for a year, the 6 months non-payment (if any) will be rolled over
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Kay's tqtqtq😊
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post Mar 23 2020, 11:23 PM

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I would like to request for the following Disaster Relief Program/Saya ingin memohon Program Bantuan Akibat Bencana Alam di bawah * :
Payment moratorium up to a maximum of 6 months / Program bayaran ansuran moratorium sehingga 6 bulan maksimum
Waiver of late charges/penalty fees/miscellaneous charges / Pengecualian bayaran lewat/penalti/caj
Restructuring & Rescheduling request / Penjadualan & Pengstrukturan Semula
Others, i.e. KIV legal / foreclosure / repossession/ Penangguhan tindakan undang-undang / halang tebus/penarikan balik kenderaan

If you chose "Others" above, please elaborate here/Jika anda pilih "Lain-lain" diatas, sila huraikan disini* :
My preferred Moratorium Options After Expiry/Pilihan selepas Tamat Tempoh Program Moratorium * :
Keep loan tenure by increasing instalment after moratorium period / Menambah amaun ansuran selepas program moratorium
Maintain existing instalment by increasing loan tenure after moratorium period / Mengekalkan amaun ansuran semasa dengan melalui penambahan tempoh pinjaman
Maintain existing instalment and loan tenure, to settle differential sum at final instalment / Mengekalkan amaun ansuran dan tempoh pinjaman. Baki berlebihan akan dijelaskan pada bulan ansuran terakhir
Others, please state / lain –lain, sila huraikan

Hi/Saalam guys just sharing moratorium plans from alliance bank. Should be similar for others bank too☝️☝️☝️

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post Mar 23 2020, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 23 2020, 11:28 PM)
I would go for this one, it is the best option.

"Maintain existing instalment and loan tenure, to settle differential sum at final instalment / Mengekalkan amaun ansuran dan tempoh pinjaman. Baki berlebihan akan dijelaskan pada bulan ansuran terakhir"
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Yeah la bro , I was thinking the same way too👌🙌
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post Mar 24 2020, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 24 2020, 09:05 PM)
https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...-for-six-months

Its out guys. Automatic moratorium but the banks will have their say on how to implement it, but they have to be clear about it
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Yup saw it too...hope they give us options on the interest calculation methods👌
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post Mar 26 2020, 01:07 PM

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For ambank cust moratorium:

Either extend the tenure 6 months which is auto pick by the bank or pay 6 months additional interest at the final payment that need to be requested by cust.
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post Mar 26 2020, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(*MoonStone* @ Mar 26 2020, 01:27 PM)
Which one will you choose?
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Autopick because the second option which add the 6months lum sump interest at the final payment which is not gonna happen for at least 28 years more remaining loan haha. Also when u cancel the loan financing they will deduct the 6 months interest fee which u owe.

That's y, the extended tenure is the best options for me la.
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post Mar 27 2020, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 27 2020, 11:07 PM)
buggie got it right. Different banks have different ways for you to settle the accrued interests

But here are the general ways:

1. It will be capitalized into your loan , so your installment will increase while tenure will remain the same (plus 6 m)

2. You will pay for it in lump sum at the end of the moratorium (installment and tenure remain the same plus 6m)

3. It will be paid at the end of the tenure, but it will be compounded for forever long your tenure is left (tenure increased, installment remain the same)
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Bro, what happen example if the tenure increased and we dicided that to terminate say 5 years from now with 20 year loan left. Will the bank charge us back additional 6 months interest that we owe?

Second question meaning with the 6months moratorium, no principal accumulated too ryte? So rugi ah? 6 months without principal or 6 month with principal payment better bro?

Moratorium better ke rolling method? If rolling got principal cashback kan bro?

Tq in advance bossku 🙌☺️
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post Mar 28 2020, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Mar 28 2020, 12:07 AM)
1. Sure mate. You have to pay everything that is due to them. The accrued interest is something you definitely have to pay, by hook or by crook - i.e. by capitalising it into the loan thus increasing your loan balance (which you have to settle once you need to cancel the loan) or by paying it in lump sum which I have explained above.

2. Ah, that is the point of the moratorium. That you do not have to pay the principal of the loan (loan balance) back to the bank. It helps you a little bit. If you want to pay the principal, and since you need to pay the interest anyway, then just pay the installment as normal lah! This moratorium has the purpose of easing you M40 and some of us T20 with cash-flow in these dire times. Cash-flow is king, it makes or breaks you as a person and as an enterprise. Essentially the moratorium allows your tenure to be extended, so you would not be too fcuked up with loan repayments/installments

3. If you have already started rolling, wouldn't you already have cash in hand from the distribution in Jan 2020 that you used to pay off the loans for the next 12 months? If yes, then the point is moot. If you are just starting out, then I would say to take the moratorium, and see how shit goes in Malaysia six (6) months from today. If everything is fine and dandy, then you can go ahead and pay the accrued interests in lump sum if you do not want your installment to be increased over the remaining of your tenure; in the event that it is NOT fine and dandy, at least you still have money that you have not used to pay the installment, to buy food during an era of hyper-inflation or something

I should write an ebook.
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Wow tq bro this explains it all!!!
U should write an ebook n publish it to PNB and ASNB bro☺️👌👍🙌
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post Mar 28 2020, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(MrFay @ Mar 28 2020, 11:08 AM)
what i can conclude from here is.. should you take the moratorium or not? the answer is OPTIONAL

it really depends on you, if you are affected by Covid 19, go for it

if you have the money, just continue paying monthly or you can go for moratorium as well..

the banks are giving you the options here..

as for me, im going to take the deferment, eventhough my income does not affected by Covid 19, im going to put the money somewhere else.. maybe charity  wink.gif
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Yup me too gonna take the moratorium since I know that this year dividend definitely gonna be lower then the last year payout...so why pay more? Haha.


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post Apr 30 2020, 08:15 PM

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https://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...n_press&ac=5042

No more interest free ah?🤔🤔🤔
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post Apr 30 2020, 08:19 PM

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https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/personal-fi...FN-BNM-20200430
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post Apr 30 2020, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(MrFay @ Apr 30 2020, 09:16 PM)
I think this only applies for hire purchase loans and fixed rate loans right? Not ASBF
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Sorry fixed loan rate applies to which products? Personal loan only ?
So asbf not effected?
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post Aug 11 2020, 12:41 PM

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Does it worth to extend the moratorium for additional 3 month till year end? Since this year divided will the lowest ryte?
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post Aug 11 2020, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 11 2020, 01:04 PM)
If you qualify.....Yes, but Talk to your bank first to confirm no additional costs or fees to be borne.. Also interest “catch-up” & repayments how?...if all good to you? Then take... if extra and you’d rather not cuz can afford? Then don’t extend. Resume payment. Banks have had (still have) some time to strategise proper. Be sure, they won’t be caught unawares by then.
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Tq bro. This I found in Q A

2. Will the tenure and therefore, maturity date of my facility change if I opt for Repayment Assistance?
You will have a number of financing options to choose from; one of which where the maturity date, or tenure of the facility, can be extended.

Please be advised that you may incur higher overall interest / financing costs for this option. Further details will be made available once your application is reviewed.
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post Aug 11 2020, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(faizfizy39 @ Aug 11 2020, 04:58 PM)
We're you able to extend the 3 month moratorium? Is it u don't have to pay installment or only pay profit/interest amount?
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Most of the banks now offer moratorium extension relief plan but subject to bank decision when customer request for it. I think they will extend the loan tenure longer period.
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post Aug 12 2020, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 12 2020, 11:39 AM)
It’s good advice cuz it should be the least damage. That’s of course for those who aren’t presented with the option to simply extend by another 6 months. It’s all about the numbers and for now, we don’t know exactly how it’ll fall. Generally, monthly repayment amount is more than interest charged per month. So if for example you pay RM900 but interest is RM750. If extend by 6 months and not paying extra to offset the accrued interest.. You’ll end up rugi about RM150 X 6. This in the long run can be considered insignificant la.. But who’s counting is counting..

There’s an option I’m hoping they’ll offer.. Total the accrued interest and divide evenly by 6.. Then add that plus normal monthly repayment amount...deduct normally via SI.. All accrued interests during the moratorium should then be settled in the next 6 months. After which all returns back to normal AND ideally with no extra charges or penalties. Seems to me like a win win sorta situation..No?  hmm.gif
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But does it apply in Islamic loan too?

Cause I read this in an article in riggit plus as below

What about Islamic home financing?

Now, if you’re on an Islamic home financing plan, Since Syariah principles forbid compounding profit (i.e. no profit from accrued profit), regardless of whichever repayment option you choose, the financial commitments will be the same: you just need to repay the accrued profit from the 6-month deferment.

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