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Ronald K.
post Feb 8 2018, 11:20 AM

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Hi,

Just to update on Ambank ASB/ASB2 financing rate -

Following the recent 0.25% increase in base rate, our current promo rate has increased from 4.75% to 5%. Requirement is still the same whereby it is only applicable to 100k and above. Also there is no lock-in period and takaful is optional. In addition, I will personally offer loan rebate and stamp duty waiver.

Should you have any enquiries regarding the above, do feel free to drop me a PM.

Thanks! smile.gif
Ronald K.
post Feb 28 2018, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(Ronald K. @ Feb 8 2018, 11:20 AM)
Hi,

Just to update on Ambank ASB/ASB2 financing rate -

Following the recent 0.25% increase in base rate, our current promo rate has increased from 4.75% to 5%. Requirement is still the same whereby it is only applicable to 100k and above. Also there is no lock-in period and takaful is optional. In addition, I will personally offer additional rebate and stamp duty waiver.

Should you have any enquiries regarding the above, do feel free to drop me a PM.

Thanks! smile.gif
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Hi guys, I will be personally offering the additional rebate until 15th March so do drop me a PM if interested smile.gif

This post has been edited by Ronald K.: Feb 28 2018, 10:05 AM
Ronald K.
post Mar 6 2018, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Mar 6 2018, 10:11 AM)
Do I need to bring any document, to cancel the loan?
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Nope, IC will do.
Ronald K.
post Mar 12 2018, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Ronald K. @ Feb 28 2018, 08:59 AM)
Hi guys, I will be personally offering the additional rebate until 15th March so do drop me a PM if interested smile.gif
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Hey guys,

Just a reminder that the additional rebate promo will be ending soon so do PM if interested 😄

A recap on our current promo in Ambank:
Rate is 5% for 100k and above with no lock-in period and takaful is optional.

In addition I will personally offer additional rebate and stamp duty waiver.

Thanks!

This post has been edited by Ronald K.: Mar 12 2018, 12:13 PM
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post Mar 14 2018, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(mcoriole @ Mar 14 2018, 10:18 PM)
Hi guys, I have an ASB loan worth 202,177 (199000 for ASB and 3177 for takaful) over 30 years. Monthly repayment is 1060.75. Interest rate was 4.8% (now 5.05% from my CIMB click). I added 1k to make it 200k in my ASB account.

I'm trying to work out if it's worth it if I pay the loan over 30 years compared to saving on my own without touching the money for 30 years.

Basically I got:

Final ASB account balance = RM 200,000*(1.07^29) = RM  RM 1,422,851.41
Total monthly payment = RM 1,060.75*12*30 =  RM 381,870.00
Loan nett gain = RM  RM 1,422,851.41 - RM 381,870.00 =  RM1,040,981.41

Now, if I save on my own for 30 years, I got RM1,202,391.35.

Basically I calculated like this:

First year: RM1,060.75*12 =  RM12,729.00
Second year: RM12,729.00*1.07 + RM12,729.00 =  RM26,349.03
Third year: RM26,349.03*1.07 + RM12,729.00 =  RM40,922.46
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30th year:  RM1,111,833.97 + RM12,729.00 =  RM1,202,391.35

With this calculation, it seems like I'm going to lose around 160k by taking the loan instead of saving on my own:

Loan nett gain - Saving gain = RM1,040,981.41 - RM1,202,391.35 = -RM161,409.94

Is something wrong with my calculation, or am I using the wrong strategy?
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By saving on your own, ie depositing RM1060.75 every month, dividend is calculated monthly tho against the lowest balance in account as opposed to ASB loan whereby dividend is always calculated monthly against 200k (not taking into account future dividend & bonus) except for the first month of disbursement since lowest balance in that particular month is not 200k.

So I don't think you should calculate the dividend from own saving based on one lump sum amount every year since it's calculated monthly smile.gif

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post Mar 18 2018, 08:13 PM

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Hi guys!

Just to inform that Ambank 5% ASB promo will be ending soon, until the end of this month. On top of that, I will personally waive the stamp duty fee so feel free to drop me a PM if interested.

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Ronald K.
post Mar 19 2018, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Mar 19 2018, 03:23 PM)
Really? the banker told me about 1 month plus...if really 3 months cry.gif
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It depends actually. Some may only take about a month to terminate while others may take months even though loans were taken from the same bank.
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post Mar 19 2018, 06:42 PM

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QUOTE(eastwest @ Mar 19 2018, 04:42 PM)
But bank will still return the principal amount that we paid after the termination, right?
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Yup that’s correct, surrender value will be the principal amount you’ve paid up to complete loan termination.

QUOTE(RickJames09 @ Mar 19 2018, 04:55 PM)
Dealt with Ronald K. for terminating my previous loan andd re-applied with him. Really helpful and informative if you need any helps. Really recommended.
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Thanks for the feedback bro, much appreciated 😄
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post Mar 29 2018, 10:43 PM

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Hey guys!

Just an update to Ambank latest ASB financing promo effective 1st April:-

5% is now applicable to 70k and above (previously rate applies to 100k and above only).

Also same as before, there is no lock-in period and takaful is optional. In addition I will personally offer rebates which include a stamp duty waiver!

If interested, feel free to drop me a PM to know more about the offer.

Thanks! smile.gif
Ronald K.
post Mar 29 2018, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(soulmixx @ Mar 29 2018, 11:18 PM)
hi..pm me the details
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PM done! smile.gif
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post Apr 1 2018, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(apek1989 @ Apr 1 2018, 05:57 AM)
Hi guys. I considering to terminate my asb loan with maybank. close to 1 year. This April will be 1 year.

So I want to ask how much should i pay for the penalty or exit fees. Here is the details of my loan.

Outstanding balance: -RM101,439.35
Outstanding Cost of Finance: RM100,971.10

Any sifu can help me here. Tq.
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Do check with Maybank if there was any lock-in period when you applied for the loan.

QUOTE(rastablank @ Apr 1 2018, 02:51 PM)
Can we still apply for ASB2 loan? Or they have completely closed the ASB2?
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ASB2 loan has just reopen for subscription but quota is limited so do feel free to drop me a PM if interested smile.gif

This post has been edited by Ronald K.: Apr 1 2018, 03:44 PM
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post Apr 6 2018, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Ronald K. @ Mar 29 2018, 10:43 PM)
Hey guys!

Just an update to Ambank latest ASB financing promo effective 1st April:-

5% is now applicable to 70k and above (previously rate applies to 100k and above only).

Also same as before, there is no lock-in period and takaful is optional. In addition I will personally offer rebates which include a stamp duty waiver!

If interested, feel free to drop me a PM to know more about the offer.

Thanks! smile.gif
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Quota for ASB2 is limited so do drop me a PM if interested as we’re submitting them asap for disbursement. Thanks! smile.gif
Ronald K.
post Apr 17 2018, 10:11 PM

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Hey guys,

Just would like to inform that ASB2 is no longer available for subscription so if anyone is still interested in taking ASB financing, Ambank is still having a promo @ 5%. Additional rebates will be personally given as well so do feel free to PM for more info.

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Ronald K.
post Apr 25 2018, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Apr 25 2018, 01:09 AM)
What's the difference takaful and without?
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With takaful (insurance), instalment will be slightly higher depending on the coverage period. There’s no harm to take takaful tho for protection, eg if you plan to terminate in 5 years then can just take a 5-year coverage instead. It will be much cheaper compared to taking a full 30-year coverage.
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post Apr 25 2018, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Apr 25 2018, 10:57 AM)
I mean benefits with and without.. If say one suddenly pass away without having takaful in asb won't burden family members right?
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Ah I see, yup with or without takaful it won’t burden the family members.

With takaful, family members will get back the asb cert amount plus cash value from takaful, while without takaful family members will only get back the principal amount paid if there’s any as bank will liquidate the cert when there was no payment made for 2 mths in a row.
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post Apr 25 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Apr 25 2018, 01:43 PM)
Thanks man,  btw do u recommend takaful to ur clients or most doesn't take them?
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If they’re keen on taking takaful then I’ll normally advise them to take a shorter coverage period (usually 5-10 yrs) depending on how long they plan to hold the loan as anything may happen during the particular period. It really depends on their investment preferences - some may take and some may not.
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post Apr 30 2018, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(abz @ Apr 29 2018, 01:58 AM)
Anyone is serving ASB loan with Ambank? Is it true Ambank does not provide any offer letter to sign for the loan once approved?

I'm asking this because recently my ASB loan with Ambank has been approved and installment has started without me signing any offer letter. It seems like I need to serve the loan without any agreement signed. The only confimation is from sms I received stating loan amount, installment amount and 1st payment due date.
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Yup once application form is signed, you agree for the loan to disburse (did the banker mention about this?). There’s no need to sign any offer letter after loan is approved. You should receive letter from Ambank tho regarding the loan in about 7 working days after loan has disbursed.

QUOTE(IceQTurbo @ Apr 30 2018, 07:40 AM)
Guys, can I know any special package offered by Ambank recently?
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PMed! smile.gif

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post May 3 2018, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(IceQTurbo @ May 3 2018, 10:34 PM)
No problem in commiting the installment and i applied 25 years loan.

Just that i felt a liitle bit demotivated as currently market is having lower rate than mine.
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Well since you've servicing the loan for more than 3 yrs which is an acceptable period to terminate, it's okay to terminate and reapply for perhaps a 30-yr tenure instead this time. As for the surrender value, you can consider using it to take a higher loan amount if you have yet to max out your ASB - it's totally up to you.

This post has been edited by Ronald K.: May 3 2018, 11:21 PM
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post May 6 2018, 09:02 AM

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Just in case anyone of you is not aware, Ambank is one of the agents currently offering ASB/ASB2 financing as well @ 5% with no lock-in period. In addition, I'm also personally giving out additional rebates on top of the promo rate, so do feel free to PM for more details if interested! smile.gif
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post May 7 2018, 01:33 PM

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Actually that’s not the right way to calculate the annual net return for ASB loan (by solely taking dividend minus interest), which in this case is 2% (7%-5%).

When you pay for the instalment monthly, not all actually goes to the interest (can refer to the financial calc). Part of it is the principal amount which you’ll get back when you cancel the loan, which in this case is the surrender value - so the net return is actually more than that, way higher than FD as well with flexibility and minimal risk.

Will share the exact calculation later after work.

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