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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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Davez89
post Jan 8 2016, 03:40 PM

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post Jan 8 2016, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Jan 8 2016, 04:22 PM)
bukan.. kalau KEY mesti la kena beli.. btw edit quoted tu.. nanti key marah  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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post Jan 14 2016, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Jan 14 2016, 11:04 AM)
Would like to Share a bit. Just came back from updating my book yesterday. Div + Bonus amounted to RM 37,000.00 from 400k loan plus compounded interest from previous years.

I'm paying approx 2,400 pm @ RM 28,800 to service the loan for RM 8,200 profit. Plus will earn roughly RM 14,000.00 from the coming ASB2, which if not for the ASB loan facility, would not have been able to fill up to the max. This makes for a total profit of RM 22,000 or rather approx RM 1,800 per month.

I could now, terminate the loan for an even higher ROI from the ammortization. But now since the new ruling, I would not be able to retake as max loan only allowed up to 200k. If I let it compound, Will have even higher dividends next year.

Also contemplating taking ASB2 loan and remove the current cash 200k in ASB 2 elsewhere. But don't know where to park yet
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Good job bro. Just park there for the time being until u found a better opportunity investment then take the loan lo..jellynye 37k dividend
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post Jan 31 2016, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(TheRedDevil @ Jan 31 2016, 09:00 AM)
Sorry, i thought the maximum of ASB loan is 200k?
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He invested in ASB long long time ago where his dividend expended too 400k(200k dividend)

took out the 200k cash and replace it with another 200k loan on top of the original 200k

iinm now the loan is limit to 200k only so cant do what he did anymore.
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post Feb 8 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Feb 8 2016, 08:22 AM)
Anyway, I plan to take 300k worth of ABS loan. Know a banker whom can (try) arranging that for me considering my history dealing with the branch.

May I know which one is the best route?
- 300k one off (not sure if possible)
- 30k x 10 loans.

I personally prefer the 30k x 10 loans as its easier for me to clear up one by one from time to time.
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Asb loan Max is 200k iinm.. or do u mean asbloan 2 loan as well?

50k per loan should be find 50k X 6
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post Sep 3 2016, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 2 2016, 08:46 PM)
Show me your calculation for 1000% ROI, don't pull numbers out of your butt please.

600/month for 25 years I assume? Then simple calculation will be 600 x 12 x 25 = 180,000.

So you pay 180k to get a 100k at the end of the loan period, doesn't seem like 1000% ROI.
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this guy is an accountant rclxms.gif
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post Sep 3 2016, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(xeda @ Sep 3 2016, 10:18 PM)
Lol, you butthurt so badly in kopitiam until you take my post out of context from there to here? Grow up. Kibod warrior betul.
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Just to show how good ur calculation is.. Anyway it's the same topic. Asb loan
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post Oct 8 2016, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Oct 6 2016, 07:13 PM)
sry if I have necro this post, ASB loan is for bumi only?
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Yes, asb financing is for bumiputra only
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post Dec 23 2016, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(ishumi @ Dec 23 2016, 10:04 AM)
Looking at the divident now its impossible to get 100k for 5 years.. (5 years of 6.75% only get u a cumulative divident of 77k only)

let say i pay 1,200 per month for 5 years (200k loan maybank)
RM1,200 x 60 = RM 72,000 (to the bank)
divident 6.75 for 5 years (prediction) divident accumulated = RM 77,247

Profit of loan for 5 years: RM 77,247 - 72,000 = RM 5,247  hmm.gif

is it worth it? icon_question.gif
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This is what people see but what they don't see it's the principal that was reduced for the past 5 years which is around 16k. I used 5.2% for the loan interest.

If u pay 1200 monthly for 5 years straight ur compounding dividend would be 90.6k

So basically it's 90.6k - 72k =18,600+16k(principal)

Total would be 34,600 and not 5,247.
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post Dec 23 2016, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(ishumi @ Dec 23 2016, 04:35 PM)
yup.. my dividend calc is based on 200k plus dividend compounding amount. Its just i didn't add with prinsipal which is kept incresing like Davez89 said b4. So after 5 years if i terminate my loan i get an extra cash of 16k (prinsipal) from the bank + compunding dividend = profit.. hehe icon_rolleyes.gif
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this is what most people not aware of, the loan repayment ure paying is for both interest and principal.
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post Dec 29 2017, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(skylee18 @ Dec 28 2017, 02:52 PM)
1000 loan @ 6% - 60
1000 return @ 8% - 80
profit return 20 which is only 2%

worth or not?
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U clearly don't know anything about asb loan.. Numbers all wrong too

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post Dec 29 2017, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(skylee18 @ Dec 29 2017, 01:22 PM)
yup, then why stop ? show me your numbers in simple way of calculation.....fixed, don't just blast without fact
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Nah, people just need to learn to read before telling others worth or not hehe
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post Dec 30 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(epie @ Dec 30 2017, 10:08 AM)
hi guys,

1 question
is there any maximum limit for asb2 loan?
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200k
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post Apr 25 2018, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Apr 24 2018, 07:23 PM)
Maybank the takaful is compulsory. Min 5 years. Better take asb loan without takaful.
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What's the difference takaful and without?
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post Apr 25 2018, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ronald K. @ Apr 25 2018, 09:21 AM)
With takaful (insurance), instalment will be slightly higher depending on the coverage period. There’s no harm to take takaful tho for protection, eg if you plan to terminate in 5 years then can just take a 5-year coverage instead. It will be much cheaper compared to taking a full 30-year coverage.
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I mean benefits with and without.. If say one suddenly pass away without having takaful in asb won't burden family members right?
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post Apr 25 2018, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ronald K. @ Apr 25 2018, 12:38 PM)
Ah I see, yup with or without takaful it won’t burden the family members.

With takaful, family members will get back the asb cert amount plus cash value from takaful, while without takaful family members will only get back the principal amount paid if there’s any as bank will liquidate the cert when there was no payment made for 2 mths in a row.
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Thanks man, btw do u recommend takaful to ur clients or most doesn't take them?
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QUOTE(Ronald K. @ Apr 25 2018, 02:17 PM)
If they’re keen on taking takaful then I’ll normally advise them to take a shorter coverage period (usually 5-10 yrs) depending on how long they plan to hold the loan as anything may happen during the particular period. It really depends on their investment preferences - some may take and some may not.
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QUOTE(haziqnet @ Apr 25 2018, 05:38 PM)
I think ronald already explain well. Usually i will advise my client to take separate takaful from 3rd party takaful company for example etiqa or msig takaful. Actually the takaful in asb financing is life takaful. If u plan to make your asb financing for long term (more than 10 years) is advisable to take the loan with takaful. However if u only plan for short term its more advisable to take the loan without takaful because your return of investment will be more.

Eventhough u doesnt take your loan with takaful if anything happen to u, ur heirs still get the money however the amount is the same like you terminate your asbf. For example when u terminate your asbf and get 50k but if something happen to u, ur heirs also will get 50k. Therefore no need to worry if u take your asbf without takaful. The distribution will follow faraid law with or without takaful.
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Thanks to both of u for explaining, appreciated it.
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post Dec 14 2018, 09:35 AM

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Is it advisable to park 400k into my sis acc but she already got married in US and been living there for the past 1-2 year . She also got her green card many months ago.
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post Dec 22 2018, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Dec 22 2018, 10:54 AM)
42/deskjob/degree  biggrin.gif  I started my full 200k loan when i got my first job at 24 earning 2k. Survived on 600 a month. Then work your way up the ladder. Of course now no hal to pay ady la
Aiiya.... dun jelly la!... never my intention. Just wanna put a real life case study to the theories put up by wild card and haziq. To show that it works...  rclxms.gif No short cuts though... the results above was 18  years on the making!
Sure.. very simple. just need discipline and perseverance.

Took 200k loan. Wait 10 years got 200k dividend.
Took it out put in ASB2 (cash)
Replaced it another 200k loan (ASB). Those days it was allowed.
When ASB2 loan launched, Took out 200k cash and put into ASD
Replaced that with 200k ASB2 loan

Along the way, terminate and reaaply every 3 years
Took out 100k from ASD to renovate new house.
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The only problem is that nowadays people don't maths and also saying it's haram etc etc haha.
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post Dec 23 2018, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(ezrachan @ Dec 22 2018, 09:24 PM)
They did do math but at the wrong side. So busy calculate how much the bank earn from the interest and said "wah banyaknya bank ambik. Pinjam 50k bayar balik 90k. Tak nak lah loan. Better simpan sendiri." 🤷
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That's why their calculations suck, only thinking how the bank profit from them but nvr think both side also profit and they even profit more

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