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 ASB loan, worth to get it???

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Davez89
post Nov 23 2015, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Nov 23 2015, 12:19 PM)
Great! Just remember that this ASB loan will count in your CCRIS. So just keep that in mind when you do your budgeting and future plans.

He probably managed to accumulate up to 300k only before PNB imposed the max 200k ruling. So he can only take an additional 100k loan because that was what his limit had expanded to at the time. He will still continue to grow the dividend portion and with it also expand the Max limit.... just that he can't take anymore loan because of the PNB ruling now.
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great info bro, I'm aware of the ccris that's why I decide to take it after puchasing a property so that my DSR won't be affected much.

QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Nov 23 2015, 12:37 PM)
yes, i withdrew all my money to give way for the loan and investment for epf acc 1 (150k(loan)+50k(epf acc 1) = max 200k)

i choose to max both of my child asb2 account first due to the limited fund size (the total fund size is rm10Bil)..that is 50k each

i can still fill their asb account as and when i have the money because asb have no fund size limitation...
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bro, epf 1 can be invested into asb ??
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post Nov 23 2015, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Nov 23 2015, 12:37 PM)
i choose to max both of my child asb2 account first due to the limited fund size (the total fund size is rm10Bil)..that is 50k each

i can still fill their asb account as and when i have the money because asb have no fund size limitation...
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Ah, Good thinking thumbup.gif
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post Nov 23 2015, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Nov 23 2015, 01:03 PM)

bro,  epf 1 can be invested into asb ??
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for asb can't bro...

only asb2
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post Nov 23 2015, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Nov 23 2015, 02:14 PM)
for asb can't bro...

only asb2
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Still a good news:D
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post Nov 23 2015, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Nov 22 2015, 01:03 PM)
so to say that we cant use buggie's method no more if we took the 200k loan and down the road
9~10 years it expands to another 200k ? cry.gif
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As other people on this thread had mentioned, you are now allowed to take up ASB2 financing (also up to 200k). So if you have enough 'capital' for another 200k, dont waste time feeling disappointed and go grab these loans now biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Nov 23 2015, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(exitsortie @ Nov 23 2015, 05:19 PM)
As other people on this thread had mentioned, you are now allowed to take up ASB2 financing (also up to 200k). So if you have enough 'capital' for another 200k, dont waste time feeling disappointed and go grab these loans now  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Will definitely do that..but would be greater if after 8-9 use buggies method to unleash the real power of COMPOUNDING INTEREST.. that's the real deal of investing in asb biggrin.gif

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post Nov 24 2015, 10:40 AM

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i always have negative perception on asb financing.
upon reading so much seems it is quiet good though.
for a start, how much asb loan should I take?
mt24
post Nov 24 2015, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Nov 18 2015, 12:32 PM)
Hi. Sure bro... It's on a single IC

Everyone knows that max you can put in ASB is 200k. but as you earn dividend, the size will expand. So for eg if after the first year you have earned 15k dividend, your ASB size is now 215k! so if you were to withdraw 5k and leave 210k in there, you can still put back that 5k in even though you have 210k already there.

So for me, I took the max loan about 8 or 9 years back earning dividend which i never touched and let it compound. Dividend size grew to 200k essentially doubled. So I had 200k sijil and 200k cash. Took out the 200k cash and put into ASB2 and replaced it with another 200k sijil from MBB. Making it 400k loan in ASB

Hope this helps. icon_rolleyes.gif
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200k how much u are paying every month?
is it can be covered with your ASB divident?

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post Nov 24 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(wts6819 @ Oct 29 2015, 12:52 PM)
Just to get full dividend on it. No issue if you taking now. I taking my first 100k asb loan few years back around Oct. Yet I still manage to get 2k+ dividend from it. Notbad.jpeg
btw, I suggest you to divide it into 100k + 100k. Easy for exit plan. smile.gif
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when u said divide here what do u mean?
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post Nov 24 2015, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(mt24 @ Nov 24 2015, 10:43 AM)
200k how much u are paying every month?
is it can be covered with your ASB divident?
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For 200k loan it should be about 11xx per month and yes
The dividend covers the installment with additional 2k +- extra

QUOTE(mt24 @ Nov 24 2015, 10:52 AM)
when u said divide here what do u mean?
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he probably meant taking 2 loans instead of one.

Means to say if one day u can no longer afford 1k++ installment

U can stop one loan of 100k which u are paying 500+- monthly
Instead of 2 loans..correct me if I'm wrong.

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post Nov 24 2015, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(mt24 @ Nov 24 2015, 10:43 AM)
200k how much u are paying every month?
is it can be covered with your ASB divident?
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200k, as Davez89 said is about 1,200.00 per month.

although the dividend can cover the loan amount, I would suggest you don't touch it and let it compound. In 10 years, you double your money.

If you do take it out to pay your monthly loan, at the end of 30 years, you will have a little over 200k. If you leave the dividend in there and let it compound @ 7%, you will have 1.5M in cold hard cash! that's 1.3M difference...


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post Nov 24 2015, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(mt24 @ Nov 24 2015, 10:40 AM)
i always have negative perception on asb financing.
upon reading so much seems it is quiet good though.
for a start, how much asb loan should I take?
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If you can afford the monthly, take the full amount 200k as early as possible.

You need to accumulate capital as quickly as possible and 200k loan is the quickest way to utilize Other People's Money (OPM) to accumulate which will ultimately work for you...

So if you start small you lose that little time you have... BIG opportunity cost lost. For now, you may think you have plenty of time, but in reality, you don't.
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QUOTE(Davez89 @ Nov 24 2015, 11:22 AM)
he probably meant taking 2 loans instead of one.

Means to say if one day u can no longer afford 1k++ installment

U can stop one loan of 100k which u are paying 500+- monthly
Instead of 2 loans..correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes you are right. I myself take 100k x 4 loans

although if you do take 200k at once and you get in trouble, you could just surrender it and reapply for 100k
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post Nov 24 2015, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(buggie @ Nov 24 2015, 12:00 PM)
200k, as Davez89 said is about 1,200.00 per month.

although the dividend can cover the loan amount, I would suggest you don't touch it and let it compound. In 10 years, you double your money.

If you do take it out to pay your monthly loan, at the end of 30 years, you will have a little over 200k. If you leave the dividend in there and let it compound @ 7%, you will have 1.5M in cold hard cash! that's 1.3M difference...
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So means if I take the 200k loan, I'll only have to pay for 1 year is it? As in pay only RM1.2k every month for a year. Then after that year let the dividend pay the rest? And would it total up to 1.5M? thank you.. Im thinking of taking it up
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post Nov 24 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(nookie86 @ Nov 24 2015, 02:28 PM)
So means if I take the 200k loan, I'll only have to pay for 1 year is it? As in pay only RM1.2k every month for a year. Then after that year let the dividend pay the rest? And would it total up to 1.5M? thank you.. Im thinking of taking it up
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The 1.5m buggie mentioned is that you'll have to pay your installment at 1.2k a month for 30 years without touching it.

The other method is to pay installment 1200 monthly for a year
And then second year you don't have to come out a single cent as your dividend gained will cover the installment with extra few k cash for you to spend. After 30 years you'll have 200k.
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post Nov 24 2015, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(nookie86 @ Nov 24 2015, 02:28 PM)
So means if I take the 200k loan, I'll only have to pay for 1 year is it? As in pay only RM1.2k every month for a year. Then after that year let the dividend pay the rest? And would it total up to 1.5M? thank you.. Im thinking of taking it up
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No. Hehe... That's too easy. Think you misunderstood.

if you do that, meaning take the dividend to pay for the loan you will only have 200k at the end of 30 years because since you take out every year to pay, there is no money in there left to compound.

You have to pay 1200 every month for 30 years to have 1.5m. You cannot touch the dividend at all...

May sound a lot but if you do the calculation...

1200 × 12 = 14,400. End of 30 years you get 200,000 so you untung 185,600

1200 × 12 × 30years = 432,000. End of 30 years you get 1.5m so you untung 1M

200k untung vs 1M untung.... Hmmmm

This post has been edited by buggie: Nov 24 2015, 03:25 PM
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post Nov 24 2015, 03:37 PM

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Hi all

Just wanted to ask.

Can we withdraw the capital from our ASB Loan account?

Is that possible?
ezmanzamzuary
post Nov 24 2015, 03:39 PM

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Let say i sign up for 200k tomorrow, can we somehow take up the money before we enjoy any dividend and later we pay back the capital.

*treating it like a LOAN , loan.

Thank you in advance
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QUOTE(ezmanzamzuary @ Nov 24 2015, 03:39 PM)
Let say i sign up for 200k tomorrow, can we somehow take up the money before we enjoy any dividend and later we pay back the capital.

*treating it like a LOAN , loan.

Thank you in advance
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the capital (loan amount) will be in certificate ,which the bank will keep in their safe.

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ezmanzamzuary
post Nov 24 2015, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(edex @ Nov 24 2015, 03:44 PM)
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the capital (loan amount) will be in certificate ,which the bank will keep in their safe.
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Thank you. Just wondering. cool2.gif

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