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post Apr 9 2008, 04:27 PM

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C.Ron is definitely the best at the moment. Another player in Europe that i think is doing well this season is Ribery.
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post Apr 9 2008, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Punish @ Apr 9 2008, 04:24 PM)
Rino Genaro Ivan Gattuso rolleyes.gif

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Read the thread title mate. I seriously doubt Gattuso will be as good a winner, should he play there for whatever the reason. Just my opinion.
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post Apr 9 2008, 04:40 PM

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onform ronaldinho vs onform c ronaldo then i think ronaldinho will win....

C ronaldo is young still got potential...
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post Apr 9 2008, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 9 2008, 04:16 PM)
From what I understand, English players are somewhat falling short when it comes to technique. I'm guessing it's largely due to the fact that while training modules are more or less the same, it's the difference in intensity that makes the difference. This was said to me by a coach for the Brazilian Football Academy here in KL. Being a defender, technique (ball control, dribbling) matters less and this could be the reason why England are able to churn out quality centrebacks, whilst not being able to do the same with other outfield players.
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i think this is true. My fren who works in england, played football with the locals and said malaysians have better skills/technique but the english doods are stronger/quicker/etc. That's why u dont see gerrard/rooney/owen/shearer doing hocus pocus or panna or elastico (search bout it if u dunno what they are)


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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 7 2008, 05:09 PM)
Zidane at his peak, eats C.Ronaldo for breakfast.
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me at my peak, eats Maradona for supper

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post Apr 10 2008, 02:39 PM

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hmm yes good point.usually when they get to midfield with the ball at their feet..they look lost.technique isn't really tested to the full in defensive positions..most defenders would be happy just to clear the ball with minimal fuss

p.s:me at my peak,eats waffles for breakfast biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Apr 9 2008, 04:30 PM)
Read the thread title mate. I seriously doubt Gattuso will be as good a winner, should he play there for whatever the reason. Just my opinion.
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Gattuso and Kaka single handedly murdered Man Utd last season in the Champions League.

So, Gattuso>C.Ronaldo

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post Apr 10 2008, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Apr 10 2008, 03:14 PM)
Gattuso and Kaka single handedly murdered Man Utd last season in the Champions League.

So, Gattuso>C.Ronaldo
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Dude. Duke was trying to point out that the Thread is titled Who can challenge CR in WINGER position. Gattuso didnt play on the wing against us last season. So the notion that Gattuso is better than CR would be deemed immaterial to the subject of debate.
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of the current active england players, walcott show some potential. bentley and lenon definitely worth mentioning too but they are nowhere near cr's class.
arjen robben at his best could give cr a run for his money but he always out injured.

garrincha and george best from ol' school.
both are always visible in the big match!
and ronaldo is starting to show that as well!
good news for our MU rclxms.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 12:27 AM

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the answer..next season's ryan babel..
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post Apr 11 2008, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(aaron1kee @ Apr 6 2008, 01:31 AM)
Joe Cole,
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Of course Joseph "Joe" Cole-lah man!He is the true winger.Dangerous at time.
Without Lampard there,I guess Joe Cole will be better and you will know the best winger is Joe Cole. rclxms.gif
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post Apr 14 2008, 02:10 PM

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my opinion is nani rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Octavios @ Apr 11 2008, 02:10 AM)
Of course Joseph "Joe" Cole-lah man!He is the true winger.Dangerous at time.
Without Lampard there,I guess Joe Cole will be better and you will know the best winger is Joe Cole. rclxms.gif
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he play a big role during the blues reign under JM..he score a beautiful goals against Man U...dribble 3 def before shoot .... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(vutsi @ Apr 14 2008, 04:59 PM)
he play a big role during the blues reign under JM..he score a beautiful goals against Man U...dribble 3 def before shoot .... notworthy.gif
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and he IS still playing a big role blush.gif
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post Apr 14 2008, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(murishige @ Apr 11 2008, 12:27 AM)
the answer..next season's ryan babel..
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sure ... or rafa's son in 20 years time
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post Apr 15 2008, 03:21 AM


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nani i guess.well at first he seems to be cr-wannabe but now he's getting better.hehe.walcott maybe in another 2 or 3 years.love his skills during arsenal vs liverpool last week.he dribbled all the way man..
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post Apr 17 2008, 01:08 PM

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Winger position from what i think should be those that can beat players and dribble and of course can cross.

Example of wingers which i can think of is like Harry Kewell last time in Leeds and Rubben in chelsea.

No doubt CRo can score, but hes not a true winger which i think. He cant really beat players directly but he is really quick and fast on the ball. This make up room and space for him to shoot.

Maybe is juz me or present time wingers is the fullbacks (evra etc)

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QUOTE(redscorpion @ Apr 15 2008, 03:21 AM)
nani i guess.well at first he seems to be cr-wannabe but now he's getting better.hehe.walcott maybe in another 2 or 3 years.love his skills during arsenal vs liverpool last week.he dribbled all the way man..
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I disagree, I think Walcott is best deployed as a central striker, someone who lurks on the wing, fully utilizing the channels and make his way inward for shots... might need to work on his shooting and overall positional play, but usually these will come with experience (which he's not really getting at Ars, no disrespect)...

Walcott can be a good partner for Rooney for England, throw in Gerrard, you have a nice attacking trident, power, pace and penetration (my 3Ps for attacking)...
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QUOTE(m o m o @ Apr 17 2008, 01:45 PM)
I disagree, I think Walcott is best deployed as a central striker, someone who lurks on the wing, fully utilizing the channels and make his way inward for shots... might need to work on his shooting and overall positional play, but usually these will come with experience (which he's not really getting at Ars, no disrespect)...

Walcott can be a good partner for Rooney for England, throw in Gerrard, you have a nice attacking trident, power, pace and penetration (my 3Ps for attacking)...
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haha that sounds Henry-like tongue.gif
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QUOTE(m o m o @ Apr 17 2008, 01:45 PM)
I disagree, I think Walcott is best deployed as a central striker, someone who lurks on the wing, fully utilizing the channels and make his way inward for shots... might need to work on his shooting and overall positional play, but usually these will come with experience (which he's not really getting at Ars, no disrespect)...

Walcott can be a good partner for Rooney for England, throw in Gerrard, you have a nice attacking trident, power, pace and penetration (my 3Ps for attacking)...
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wonder when england will get through to the final.player sume da gempak2 but always sangkut..
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post Apr 19 2008, 09:16 AM

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CR is good doesnt mean he is the best yet. Yes he is performing damn well now but the reason behind is MU peforming well too, not just because of him. He is doing a good job in his role and lets c whether how long can he maintain and push himself to win more awards. A good players need a good team and good teammates to support them too.

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