Insurance is needed when it suits ur protection need and ur budget, if it doesn't on either side, then u don need n can't have it.
Is it necessary to got buy an insurance?
Is it necessary to got buy an insurance?
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Apr 6 2008, 01:31 AM
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Insurance is needed when it suits ur protection need and ur budget, if it doesn't on either side, then u don need n can't have it.
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Apr 9 2008, 12:14 AM
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1. i m glad tht i m at lower risk for Lost of job n income.
2. emergency fund is must,save 1st. 3. pls insure for More likely risk ( name it, u should know ur lifestyle n ur job n ur risk, if u don know, better find out). 4. pls insure for Less likely but High damage risk only with low premium (aka the total premium u pay in the next 50yrs is less than 1/3 of the insured amount), if not, don bother. |
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Apr 9 2008, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 9 2008, 04:12 AM) b00n, no offense , define Too much and how unlikely to happen ? 200K n above for critical illness or medical ?<< I have to disagree with Dreamer's idea on RM100k savings: <<<Why buy medical insurance that cover up to 30K if you have 100K in the bank?>>> >>> 1) If you have 100K in the bank, you have a credit card. You can pay by credit card. <<t's how much you value the expected emergency and calculating the premium so that it wouldn't burden one's expenses and commitments.>> 2) It is not worth the effort to claim insurance for small amount. And, 3) The premium to insure for 200K and above is too much and not likely to happen. Dreamer |
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Apr 9 2008, 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 9 2008, 09:44 AM) yewkhuay, 1&2 : when was the last time u call up hospital n ask about this figure n the incidence rate n frequency ? i m in medical line, everyday i m seeing doctors n patients n we discuss about 1 common thing, no money for suitable treatment. 1) What kind of medical condition require medical expenditure above 200K? How likely for this to happen? 2) What kind of Critical illness require medical expenditure above 200K? How likely for this to happen?? Call a few hospitals if you are interested. 3) What is the premium versus coverage for below 200K versus above 200K?? If you ever shop around for medical insurance and critical insurance, you will find that premium is reasonable for coverage below 200K. Above 200K coverage, the premium grew exponentially. This is because very few people can buy that amount of insurance in Malaysia. The problem with the rich is that below 200K, they have the money to cover that. What they need is insurance that cover a lot more that 200K. But, the premium grow exponentially for coverage above 200K. Anyhow, this is still not a big deal for people that are very rich. Since even if they waste money on insurance, it does not matter to them. The worst problem is with people with lower income. Some of them bought so much insurance that they have NO SAVINGS. Dreamer 3. when was the last time u ever shop around for insurance ? oh u don't . may be insurance agents here can answer the below 200K n above 200K question. get ur facts right. wish u happy and healthy. |
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Apr 10 2008, 05:04 PM
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 9 2008, 11:41 PM) yewkhuay, dreamer,<<1&2 : when was the last time u call up hospital n ask about this figure n the incidence rate n frequency ? i m in medical line, everyday i m seeing doctors n patients n we discuss about 1 common thing, no money for suitable treatment. >> So, since you know, tell us and educate us typically what kind of medical condition and treatment costs more than 200K in Malaysia. Do not speak in general term. Give us some examples. <<3. when was the last time u ever shop around for insurance ? oh u don't . may be insurance agents here can answer the below 200K n above 200K question. get ur facts right.>> Okay. If you have more up to date information, correct me. If not, the best that you can say is you do not know. Then, why argue with me? Please note that I am NOT in your age group. It is VERY SIMPLE. If you have BETTER and MORE up to date information, tell us. Correct me. I want to learn. Dreamer when u ask me to call up the hospitals to ask about the medical conditions tht require 200K n above n how likely it would happen, u should know the answer or hav the facts with u, if not , u r not different from ppl who can talk n divert conversation. obviously, u r either not willing to share or U DO NOT KNOW. 1. Ask a neurosurgeon to operate ur head, u need to get ready at least 15-20K , for what reason he operates on u is another story n another bill, that is only his fees. DO u need a medical condition to get ur head operated ? No.Other ppl's accident can bring u to OT room, worse still if u r not conscious n ur family member doesn't know how to withdraw ur CASH. And we don hav to argue on how likely this will happen coz u agree tht personal accident is important but pls read the terms how much it covers for hospitalization. i m here to promote insurance, but a person age 20 who purchase medical card of 60K/year, 200K/life time, the total premium he has to pay till age 70 is less than 60K, unless he is so sure tht he wouldn't need hospital service for the next 50years, getting a medical card doesn;t harm his finance n potentially help him. we can take care of our health as much but we can't guarantee we will be healthy n unhurt for tomorrow. 2. Cancer hit population age 20-99, when it hits , and too bad malaysian often got diagnosed late, and will require higher treatment cost. the best cancer treatment depends on type of cancer, can cost u upto 50K/month , still we are excluding some many other cost inccured. i do not have to list all other medical conditions tht require LONG TERM treatment and the cost involve, may be for ur AGE u can find more ppl to ask about this n update us on ur findings. 3. Since the 1st day i got to know about life insurance, i hav not heard about above 200K coverage u hav to pay relatively higher premium (infact, where do u get this info may i ask?) , in fact it is lower if u purchase 200K in 1policy vs 40K x5policies, there is a discount incurred. Substandard premium applies on clients with Substandard health status. perhaps ppl who purchase above 500K coverage require some extra health screening and their health condition made them pay higher fees. since we might some agents here, may be they can correct me if i m wrong. i did not argue with u, did i sound so ? pls note tht i m not in ur AGE group, forgive me if i offended u, never mean so. |
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 10 2008, 07:24 PM) yewkhuay, 1. according to u , most ppl actually save 23% of gross income (EPF).<<when u ask me to call up the hospitals to ask about the medical conditions tht require 200K n above n how likely it would happen, u should know the answer or hav the facts with u, if not , u r not different from ppl who can talk n divert conversation. obviously, u r either not willing to share or U DO NOT KNOW.>> Okay. I am wrong. I do not have up to date information so I asked people to call. I do not know what is the latest price. 1) You are assuming that EVERYONE can afford to pay that amount of premium. My definition of whether someone can afford something is more flexible. If you cannot save 10% to 15% of your gross income, you have OVERSPEND. The problem here is people OVERSPEND on insurance until they have NO SAVINGS. 2) Under that condition. most people (99+%) of Malaysians do not have enough insurance to cover that. And, they cannot afford to pay the premium for that kind of coverage anyhow. 3) Read carefully. I am talking about Critical Illness and medical insurance. Not life insurance. Dreamer 2. With ur new post, most ppl actually need to save 33-38% of their income. 3. I m never in the condition of saving less than tht %, so u may be right, if they can't save, may be they don't deserve to be financially protected for medical condition. 4. They are not overspending on insurance, they might only spend RM50/m on insurance but Overspend on shopping for food /clothes/clubbing/car/house, which we all know, are the easier ways of burning money. a person who spend on insurance is relatively better than these overspending machines. 5. I was talking about critical illnesses n medical insurance . Life insurance now do include critical illnesses too. premium for 120K/year medical card is less than 2X premium for 60K/year medical card. |
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Apr 10 2008, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 11 2008, 02:30 PM) If my income could not afford medical insurance over 200k, why bother to get one that is below 200k. if ur income couldn;t afford a medical insurance over 200K, u should worry about ur income and saving 1st. and u get a below 200K medical insurance bcoz u don hav 200K. |
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Apr 12 2008, 04:23 AM) Isn't it better for me to save my 3 - 6 month emergency fund rather than wasting on a 200k medical insurance which doesn't really enough if I need a cancer or whatever treatment. saving for emergency fund is a MUST, not to compare with medical insurance . and medical insurance is not only for cancer treatment , any accident will consume ur emergency fund instantly if u don even hav the basic medical coverage. |
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