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 Is it necessary to got buy an insurance?

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dr2k3
post Apr 6 2008, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Apr 6 2008, 12:57 PM)
Who ever said 'entitle to get insurance'??? im stating fact. The rich doesnt need insurance. They can afford to pay medical bills or watever bills that comes their way. Why wanna throw 30% of monthly payment to feed insurance agent when u can keep it and afford to pay in times of adversity.  whistling.gif
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agree with ya.....insurance is actually like ask them to keep ur money...if ur healthy all the way...u just give them free money

might as well put those money into investment
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post Apr 7 2008, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Colaboy @ Apr 6 2008, 02:51 PM)
can you guranteed you gonna be healthy till the day you are not around . . .
end of the day what ever investment or savings you have made, you are just using it for your medical expenses
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for me i think i will use up all my savings and investment just for the purpose of insurance payment than medical expenses

the chances of us being sick until need to use 200k is preety low (i can pretty sure say that my family....including my grandparent, relatives and friends non of them sick until so serious need to use 200k not even 5k for more than 20 years alredy) and not to mention quite some of the insurance i saw coverage kinda low...low until i dont bother to have one even~ low payment low coverage high payment high coverage

and sometimes insurance are too specific only cover certain thing and other dont cover(example) what if you buy 1 type of insurance then u urself involve in diff type of accident which is not cover by insurance company this kinda thing happen to often ( saw on the news )

the only good thing insurance is for tax purpose....instead of pay government with our hard earn money might as well buy insurance

be realistic....insurance company is created not for the benefit of us...if the chances of people get sick or accident until need 200k is so high insurance company would go bankrupt before any of us

please tell me what ganna happen to a guy if insurance only cover 200k and one day involve in 500k or more medical expenses for those with not much saving

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post Apr 7 2008, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 7 2008, 10:22 AM)
dr2k3,

1) Most people that make a lot of more money that has to worry about tax is not salary worker.  For those people, they hire a good accountant and incorporated their business.  Then, they do not have that much taxable profits.

2) For most salary workers and even for those that make 10K per month, the tax level in Malaysia is not high enough to be a problem.

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erm.....for those with 4-5k per month = 48-60k

taxable income 11% or 12% or 13% i dont know....is like 4-7k alredy
if not wrong i saw in tax thingy form that 1 year u can deduct tax up to 5k or 4k with insurance

or am i wrong?
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post Apr 7 2008, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Apr 7 2008, 03:44 PM)
haha... please la... Do u understand the meaning EFFECTIVE INTEREST RATE? even added on a projected 3% dividend, the EFFECTIVE INTEREST RATE is 4+/-% The only advantage of so called savings plan is the added insurance which can be bought separately. Ie dun 'campur aduk' ur insurance and savings together. A total waste.  whistling.gif


Added on April 7, 2008, 3:46 pm

marketing gimnick again.. always leading ppl to think they will 'lose out' if they dun buy/save NOW. If i was u, i walked out straight from the deal
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thats call "threatening"

i was wondering have they ever bought their own insurance?
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post Apr 7 2008, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 7 2008, 07:00 PM)
dr2k3,

So, this is TAX RELIEF.  You pay 5K to 6K to insurance in order to save (11% to 13%) aka RM550 to RM780.  How smart is this?  The person could have buy less insurance and save the money.

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erm...i never got tax before...is it yearly tax or monthly ??

what i mean is that if those 5-6k(yearly) are tax (must goto government pocket) might as well buy insurance for "protection"?

if 5-6k will be gone anyway which 1 would you choose tax or insurance

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post Apr 7 2008, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 7 2008, 09:32 PM)
dr2k3,

<<what i mean is that if those 5-6k(yearly) are tax (must goto government pocket) might as well buy insurance for "protection"?>>

This is TAX RELIEF.  It reduces your taxable income.  The following number is in annual aka yearly.

So, let say you earn 60K and you buy 6K premium worth of insurance.  Your taxable income is reduced by 6K.  You ONLY save 13% of 6K = RM780.

So, why spend 6K on insurance just to save RM780 in tax?

Tax savings from insurance is another bunch of BS used by insurance agent.  Do not get conned.  Know how to calculate.

Insurance agent never bother to tell you the whole story.

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hah~ stupid me...i got it now ~_~

TAXABLE INCOME is reduced by 6k....not reduce the amount i pay

u just killed the only reason that i might consider to buy an insurance X_X

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post Apr 11 2008, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(g00glesYYl @ Apr 11 2008, 12:11 PM)
You will know how insurance benefit you and your family, when something really bad happen to your family.

Just like my mother, with the medical card, it cover the the hospitalization fee. This reduce our family burden.

Well, i should thank god as giving hope to my mother. We no need to worry too much for the fee and i able to buy my first car however my family actually need money.

haha.. i am not promoting insurance. But, when u are old, u should at least have some protection as ur medical fee might even more than what u paid for insurance.

Of course, afforable. the subjective  key word.  Yes, u might more likely to lose ur job. But u would not die because of this, you and may be ur family will just need to live harder. But if once u health is serious bad, good bye.

So, take good care of ur heath.
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just wondering how much total those hospitalization fee

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