as the matter of fact, there are less students in FAM now. in previous sem, i had to park at Secret Recipe there coz the RM1 parking area would be full by 11am, today i went there at same time, there were ample of parking spaces available. not to mention there are less people "queuing" for elevators too i guess it's due to the fact that there are at least few hundreds of our seniors have graduated and left the campus, and only some of the new students enrolled in sg long campus as most of them have been relocated to Kampar

and back to ahgirl, the campus is small compared to KTAR as it is just a building without any facility available. i presume u just finished your diploma study and deciding whether u wanna further ur study in advanced diploma level or in degree level. i can say that some of the KTAR students who transferred to UTAR can't get used to the environment and the teaching styles of the lecturers, then they shifted back to KTAR for advanced diploma. however, i would certainly recommend that students to try to give time to adapt themselves into the new environment. many of the UTAR lecturers are good and there are students who do well thanks to those dedicated lecturers. and i have read in this forum that, those who hold a degree would get higher salary in some companies compared to those who hold an advanced diploma.

Yes, most probably part of the developmental fee will goes to Kampar but other than that, they do need the money to service the facilities available. Maintenance of the Intranet service, air conditioning system, servicing the lift and other stuff spoiled by the good UTARians. All these needs money. Heck, some students dont even realize that when they spoiled the properties of UTAR, they will pay for the repair fees. Thus, the RM 600 you paid, is not only for the computer labs. But I do agree that, these fees could be a burden for some poorer students. Heck, those with no PTPTN will suffer a lot.

And remember, you only pay around 30-40k for your degree. Dont tell me shit as what you pay is not what you expect to get. You wan something good ? Pay 100k and study in Monash. That place is good i tell you. But the difference, is almost 60k.

Not much comment on AS as I dont do AS. But, I have friends doing AS in London, fully sponsored by Bank Negara. I only know that AS are tough subjects. Yes, UTAR should set a tighter entry requirements for AS. But for a new course, what you can expect? Most probably the paper they sitting now are still under experimental stage. For your information, my friends used his foundation result to get a place in MMU. And I have friends who did their MUFY and joined UTAR later on. But for some other case, its normal for other Unis not accepting foundation result from a different uni.

Plz change the mindset that the "low" fees caused a lot people to joined UTAR. There are plenty of low fees uni outside. UNITEN, UNITAR, Wawasan Uni, Open Uni and etc etc are some affordable uni. Even HELP is relatively cheap and if you can get full loan to finance your study there.

Remember, your "low fees" had been subsidized by MCA, the Malaysian Community and plenty of NGOs. If not because of the subsidization, UTAR might be charging around 60-70k per degree. Not only you did not appreciate the help from these people, but you are saying the fees are expensive. Ask them to remove the subsidization and used it to develop the campus and improve the facilities. I bet you can get first class infrastucture and facilities then. But you will end up paying higher fees than now and I bet you will be complaining even more then!