cuz the old president prefer to run utar like college and want it to be rapid paced...

Like AS was suppost to be a 4 yr program

i dun think utar students have difficulties in looking for a job, in fact, they had to complete what others complete in less time. We have to complete our course in 3 years while others takes 4 yrs.

so this will help us with time management... On the other hand, drop out rate is very high too

thanks alot!!!
I've got Dr.anthony's title.
"combined effect of photodynamic therapy and chemotherapeutic agent on human cancer cell".....(^0^).........
good luck to the rest of u!!!

But I've checked both UTAR and other university programme site and the result showed that many subjects in UTAR is insufficient if compare with the others. Many subjects "drop out" and the very important is English of Business did not exist in list after all. Every private or government company very emphasized students take this subject to enhance their performance of speak, listen, reporting, undertand issues to improve productivity when they'll enrol in the company in future.

Well, seriously its normal for you to see Science grads switching to business/finance after a few years of working. Some have lost their passion in their field, while some look for higher pay.

Wsf, which Engineering are you interested in ? I can ask my friend to send you some info. Jz pm me on what you want to know and I will get him to send you an email.

Seriously, the old management suck to the max. Haha. Luckily they change the president. At least now we can see some changes to the faculty office and the way they handle something.

Not only AS. Biomedic in UTAR is very pack as well. The problem is they opt to put in a lot subjects for the student to take per semester. Biomedic is a very good course, as the external examiner was once commented that he was jealous of it due to the students learning everything a biomedic student should learn. But, its freaking to see them having 3-4 core subjects per semester + 1-2 minor subjects. Lol

Woo. Dr. Anthony ! Haha. He is very friendly. Met him during the discussion period and he make jokes with us thou its the first time we talk to him. I'm still waiting for some news, no one have receive any call/email yet in my class. Haha.

http://www.utar.edu.my/fam/index.jsp?fcati...2ndcontentid=20

It exist

did u check properly? i took this paper in my first year first sem, and my frens who did not do well in their english test for UEC/MUET had to take another extra english subject. after taking english for business, the next sem i had to take english for management, so i took total 2 english subjects and my frens took 3

agree that the old management is sucks to the max~
but the new one i m not sure.. since i never wanted to deal with the management anymore, it givs hard time.. lol

today got NAtional Maths Competition?
anyone joining?

my fren joined~=P
i wanted to.. but too tired yesterday..
so forget it =P next year

Hola, im from UTAR Setapak y2s1...doing BT..n i soo agree that the science courses r pretty packed..imagine 4 core subjects with additional of minor subs..its like hell..any how, still can cope..okies, adios

dats wat all utar student doing lo~ =P
i thought that was normal at the first time..
hahha~=P

Universiti Tak Ada Rehat. What you expect ? Lol. I complained to my course coodinator once. They planning to change the Bioscience courses to 3 1/2 years. Lol.

3.5 yers? hmm tht shud be better..actually i wouldnt mind even if it was made to 4 years, coz why the rush to graduate,,,at least we'll have more time to explore life as students in a more calmer pace...

yeap true.. life in utar is like.. some period of time very free.. then sometimes busy like hell.. 3 n a half year would be great, too many core subjects is killing the students.. But i still wonder why in each Uni, there'll be one kind of "gila" student, such as in the test, we felt it's so hard and the marks we get is around 50-70,.. then suddenly come a guy/girl get 98.. lol

Akane, domo arigatoo gozaimasu. (Thanks)

I'm interested in chemical engineering, really hope the current students will give some opinions. I would like to know why people feel UTAR is not a good choice, is it because of

-- UTAR is founded by MCA ?
-- new university ?
-- the lecturers are Malaysian, not mak salleh?
-- facilities no good ?
-- (I heard that many students having problem with English language, that's why it may affect the reputation of Utar)

I think even in the top ranking universities like Harvard, Cambridge or Oxford, not 100% of the lecturers are excellent. I feel the learning attitude of students is most important, we have to give up the spoon feeding habit we used to have in primary/secondary school.

Thanks for sharing.

i think because utar is still new? so there's not really a good news to spread yet. Like cambridge or oxford, they are there for very long already.. Of course utar also got their own cons.. Some teacher is not really fluent in english, which is hard when they want to teach/communicate with students. it's no doubt that student may have problem with english, but i dont think it affect the reputation of utar, since other colleges also have lots of student who don't really fluent in english. Facilities is not very good in utar, but it's not bad either. Well, many utarians said, u get wat u paid for.. hehehe

Be prepare for all this, since you are from Biomedic. I have seen Biomedic achieving 39/40 for their coursework. Haha. The competition is always tight there, and like Darren said, some of his friends are STPM top achiever. Lol.

Oh, Chemical Engineering eh. I will try to ask some of my friends about this. Not sure if any of them are from Chemical Engineering thou.

Herm, why UTAR is not a good choice ? Seriously, I think UTAR is an above average university in Malaysia, thou not an excellent type. The stereotype against UTAR was mainly due its association with MCA and also because its a new university. Seriously, during the past management under the old president, she run the university like a college. They emphasize too much on rapid expansion without considering the availability of facilities, lecturer and etc.

Due to rapid expansion, UTAR started to accept students that are well below par in some courses leading to a huge number of students after a few years established. Students that cant speak excellent English are common, but that shouldn't be a problem. I cant speak mandarin, but I adapted well and learned to verse in my own native language from my friends. Anyway, I see changes among my young juniors, as I find many of them converse in English and there are a higher percentage of students from other races.

On lecturer qualification, we have some very good lecturers in FES. Most are phd holder from local uni while there are some with phd from oversea uni (check it out on the staff directory on UTAR website). But of course, we lack of Mat salleh lecturer. Haha. But we do have some Mat Asian/ Mat Africa here. Lol.

I think we have enough of facilities, thou we might lack of something that more established/richer university have.

This post has been edited by Akane: Aug 9 2008, 08:24 PM

I've been exposed to this before in foundation.. But still feel very terrible when there's a week with 3-4 tests and assignment due date. lol. From what i observed in my course.. It's mostly STPM student score compared to foundation, but in doing presentation n such, foundation student is still the best. Eh, Akane, u study what course?

Haha. I love to compete with STPM-mer, maybe because I didn't do STPM and wanna prove I'm as good as them. Lol. No doubt presentation can be an advantage for foundation student, because we are more exposed to all this during our foundation years.

I'm doing Biochemistry, final year. Lol.

yup UTAR was founded by mca but then its run independently without political interference as i know..its a new uni, thus many might be still sceptical. But then again every thing has to start from scrap. Oxford would have been in the same position once too. about the lecturers, malaysian lecturers aint all that bad..i have heard students from every unis be it private, local or foreign uni complain about their lecturers. Its not the lecturers that r the problem actually, its just that every1 has different style of learning and thus might find some lecturer's teaching style not suitable to them. Facilities wise, let's look at what u really want..True, UTAR lacks in some ways, but then it does have adequate facilities for our learning though..We get what we paid for If u want first class facilities, then u might not want to come to UTAR..And about english, well u see, in every uni there r students that r not able to converse well in english..i, b4 entering UTAR,was sceptical about this too. But then seriously, most of my friends r able to converse well and well up till now, all my lecturers teach in English though they might not speak english like how a mat salleh might speak I have seen students who entered UTAR with mediocre english competency during foundation year who now converses fluent and good english..and yes bye bye to the spoon feeding habit

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Added on August 9, 2008, 10:54 pmhahahaha,lol, so true..i have seen such students too..thats what they said genius i guess.. sadly im not in tht category.. but then right results arent everything.. i have seen many who r in the president's list and deans list, who cant speak properly n neither can they think out of the box..They r more like book followers, just memorize everything from the book.

This post has been edited by cutejams2004: Aug 9 2008, 11:23 PM

LOL.... With the giant steps China is progressing now even Ang Mos are trying to learn Mandrin d, sooner Mandrin will be d international language, just a matter of time.

This post has been edited by MirageGSR: Aug 10 2008, 12:45 AM