the red cliff is in the end, tony leung will die if according to real story. he died because his plan all failed with the greatness of zhuge liang. he angry till vomit blood and died.

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it's called Red Cliff bcos it took place at a place called 赤壁, direct translation is Red Cliff lor

It's the one of the most famous and fiercest battle in 3 Kingdom story.

How it end? as per history lor... Cao Cao got beaten and run away.  I expect there will be lots and lots of fire in the last battle scene, bcos that's how they won the battle by using fire

just finished this movie..erm, overall i like it very much, tho' my frens said that better can be done..i personally like the battle scenes..and maggie q's character, i dun tink got..so is zhang fei's son..and

Speaking of Zhuge Liang

I'm surprised by ppl complaining about the historical accuracy.

ivanau88.... i don't think the movie portrayed zhuge liang's stupidity... earlier in the movie... it actually showed his brilliance by winning the first battle through strategy... and he didn't mind putting his neck on the line (he offered his head in case of failure) because he was very sure it was going to rain... and he went off before the battle was over... like what sun zi said... a true strategist could predict the outcome  of the battle even before fighting it (something like that).

btw... yeah the two bastards weren't suppose to die in that battle but they suck anyways (in the novel). Shu were declining, it was a sad thing that those two  were the best Shu could offer.

wufei... why do u refer liu bei as uncle?? 
aahh... i see... u must be a descendant of the hans. Or the emperor himself.
The 115th generation?? 

uncle liu never done any mistakes at all..if u wanna blame..i would like to say that person is zhu ge liang if u really do the research..he causes shu to decline plus uncle liu's son liu shan was another idiot to destroy his own country..

I thought Guan Yu acted ruthlessly and in the end cost him his life?

nono...this is a true story...when zhu ge liang asked guan yu to launch an attack on wei..zhao yun and zhang fei guarding lang zhong,閬中...which is either very near or is just beside jing zhou only..if zhu ge liang asked either zhao yun or zhang fei to replace guan yu in guarding jing zhou and as a back up for guan yu...do u think guan yu will died so easily?

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Added on April 16, 2008, 9:43 pm
nono...this is a true story...when zhu ge liang asked guan yu to launch an attack on wei..zhao yun and zhang fei guarding lang zhong,閬中...which is either very near or is just beside jing zhou only..if zhu ge liang asked either zhao yun or zhang fei to replace guan yu in guarding jing zhou and as a back up for guan yu...do u think guan yu will died so easily?