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post Feb 25 2009, 10:31 PM

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Resorts result out, shows red colour due to Star Cruise Impairment Loss (Acutally profit increase but drag down by Star Cruise impairment loss). Dividend 4 cents per share.
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post Mar 13 2009, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(htt @ Mar 13 2009, 12:18 PM)
Relax, bro...
Generally I think Genting and Resort are good company. The reason being the conservative management and sustainability of their business.
Genting have lower dividend yield but their business is more diversified than Resort (Resort is one of their subsidiaries after all). Both sitting on pile of cash, especially Resort (but Genting have direct control over it anyway).
If you are looking into more stable company, Genting is the choice as their business risk is lower (due to diversification). But Resort is more profitable than Genting as their business is mainly cash cow now.
Just my 2 cent.
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Well said bro htt. Cheers.
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post May 5 2009, 09:40 PM

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Anyone knows when is the payment date for the dividend ? No date at all !!!
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post Oct 15 2009, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(Morisato @ Oct 15 2009, 01:00 AM)
wait and see..

i bought in at 2.72....now 2.82..

i don't see why can not invest... coz i earning money now...hehe!!!
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Next week this time you may yell why invest cause you lose money. This minute gain may be next minute lost, would be another gain the next minute. Don't be too excited when winning nor despair when get burned. What makes the result permenant is when you cash out your stock.


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post Oct 24 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jurlique @ Oct 24 2009, 12:58 PM)
I believe Genting can up to RM8.00 by Dec 09. What's ur say?
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Are you trying to be sarcastic to us Resorts holder ? sweat.gif
It is still hovering at RM2.80. cry.gif
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post Oct 24 2009, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Oct 24 2009, 04:30 PM)
Genting PE = 2x
GenM PE = 1x
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Are those people out there blind ? vmad.gif Here look here, we got cheap thing to sell yeah..... thumbup.gif
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post Nov 13 2009, 05:02 PM

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Genting M is fighting to the price it should be ? Rare to see it gets green while Genting gets red. I bet handsome dividend is coming for the sake of Genting.
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:31 PM

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Or maybe someday he might accidentally hit his head and change his style, by turning GenM into high dividend yielding stock the way how the pile of cash is spent.
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post May 30 2010, 02:23 PM

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What do you guys think of the impact of calling off the acquisition of Bromet Limited and Digital Tree (USA) Inc ? Nowhere can trace the reason of the withdrawal, under the pressure of other shareholders in the market (Share price reflects the disagreement) ?

More and more cash stuck in Genting M. Seems they are not wisely utilising their cash.
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post May 30 2010, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(the snowball @ May 30 2010, 03:10 PM)
It is a good thing they call it off. Basically, Walker Digital is an investment mistake made by the Lim family private arm Kien Huat Realty. But, in order to reduce the loss from this mistake, they do a related party transaction and sell the failed investment to GENM to recoup the mistake. Burried deep into GENM financial statement for this period is an impairment loss for Walker Digital worth RM108million. They bought the firm at RM 227 million (at current USD-MYR exchange rate). It is about 50% write off in less than one and a half year when there is an uptick in casino business and gaming business globally.The timing of such a write off is very suspicious. These just shows that the family know it is a bad business all this while. They are waiting for a right time to write off the thing without creating much fuss i.e. a time when GENM result improve significant enough to cover the loss from Impairment Loss so that the YOY change do not look that different. Investors tend to look at the bottom line figure, when it does not fall or change too much, they would not ask "why?".The improving result in GENM give this quarter give them just the right opportunity to do so. Basically, GENM just bail out the Lim family from a bad mistake.

GENM and Genting is basically a company with a good business(Genting Highland and Sentosa) but with an incompetent and overpaid CEO that do not know what to do with the cash and put his own interest over that of the minority shareholders. It has been a long time we heard that they are looking for opportunity for acquisition, but they seem to be unable to find anything to buy or perhaps are saying that to appease the shareholder. With the current management track record in Star Cruise(Genting HK) and Genting UK, it is better for them to return the cash.

It is ok to buy into a company with bad management and sound and defensive business, but your entry price need to be low and must realize that GENM and Genting would not be able to fulfill their full potential with the current management in place. Do take note of the intensifying competition of casinos in SEA, there are new ones coming up at Phil and Vietnam. Genting Highland will largely be shielded but Sentosa will face some pressure.
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Thanks for the review, what ashame how they make use of GenM, not to mention they chose to sell off their properties to Genting M from Genting to fund Sentosa rather than another more welcomed method by delivering dividend.

My entry price was averagely at RM2.20, I chose the stock was because of the pile of cash which I hope may lead to expansion, GenM was once venturing into Taiwan Casino which however been dropped by local folks. I understand that Indonesia and Thailand also eyeing on casino in their soil, seems Genting M will not grow significantly bigger in future but being a cash cow accumulating cash (Opportunity for Lim family to manipulate). Since the management has failing ability to manage their cash, I tend not to hold this for long term investment.
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post Jun 2 2010, 11:22 PM

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snowball, you really have in depth review of Genting.
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post Jul 2 2010, 04:35 PM

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Already empty my GENM from my portfolio, only managed to secure near 20% gain. But I consider it great lose because I picked GENM between GENM and Top GLove in March 2009. This lesson is costly.
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post Jul 3 2010, 07:55 AM

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why wouldn't GENM buy over GENSP as well ? If they could acquire GENUK. They rather inject fund into Genting Group by buying building from it, now they found way to transfer fund to GENSP. They just don't want to bring anything good to GENM. In my term, I consider those are toxic asset. mad.gif

GENM are cash cow, they don't make good use of it. Instead they abuse it for own good.

Curse LKT.

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