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 Official LYN FIA Formula One World Championship V5, canada GP-1st win and 1-2 finish 4 BMW

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post Apr 28 2008, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 28 2008, 12:16 PM)
Nevertheless, that was good teamwork. Better than the lame old Schumi days dry.gif
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yeap, jz like the 1 in brazil 2k7...massa blocked hammy, let kimi pass hammy
jz beautifully executed
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post Apr 28 2008, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 28 2008, 12:16 PM)
He went in when the pitlane wasn't open. He's very low on fuel though, so it's his bad weekend AND FIA's stupid rules dry.gif.
If he didnt break the rules he would have stopped half way cus he don't have enough fuel to run anymore laugh.gif
Oh yea, you think Massa's start was good so that he can overtake Alonso? BULL, Massa's start was just moderate. The reason he got the chance to overtake Alonso is because Kimi blocked Alonso and Alonso decided to defend his line because Lewis was chasing up.
Bah ... Ferrari's ignorant fans ... dry.gif

Nevertheless, that was good teamwork. Better than the lame old Schumi days dry.gif
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seriously, the new pitlane rules must be reconsidered. Two people have suffered because of this.

Anyway I don't think Alonso's start was good enough to overtake anyone. Most of the front runners had a good start in this race.
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I think Kimi not help massa on purpose.. as anyone will do the same to block the one behide them (nearest to them)
... Ya.. If Alonso have a good start, then he should cut out different line to overtake.. but he know his car not enough power to do that...


Added on April 28, 2008, 2:07 pmsuch a stupid pitlane rules... not really understand all those high pay people sitting in FIA can come out this rule...

"somebody make mistake, accident, safety car... those with no fuel take the panalty for other people mistake.." So... Sporting F1!

This post has been edited by jejes: Apr 28 2008, 02:07 PM
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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ Apr 28 2008, 01:49 PM)
seriously, the new pitlane rules must be reconsidered. Two people have suffered because of this.

Anyway I don't think Alonso's start was good enough to overtake anyone. Most of the front runners had a good start in this race.
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Yeap, or at least could appeal straightaway to the race stewards on case by case basis. If not, it's quite unfair for those cars approaching their refuelling/pit stops laps, especially when the SC is out for a long time.
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post Apr 28 2008, 02:11 PM

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I tend to agree with DC on the current qualifying rules.
The current qualifying rules does not make sense.

Pole sitter should be the one who's fast with acceptional fuel loads.
Not those low fuel ones.
They got pole...but ended up losing the GP.



QUOTE(yngwie @ Apr 28 2008, 12:30 PM)
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agree with you. the time frame in pitlane opening is a stupid FIA rules. doh.gif

again, massa start was moderate, by being in a clearly superior car, he still hold the advantage over alonso.
whatever happened to hammy and mclaren is like a 'mystery'.
they suddenly become uncompetitive  hmm.gif

with equal driver status, ferrari is become more interesting to watch  thumbup.gif
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I think Ferrari drivers has mutual understanding.
Overtake only when one of them made a mistake, or during pit stop etc.
Up to them to pull a fast inlap etc.
Agressive manouver is a no no.

Ferrari's are always very good in launching the car during the start.
Some people don't realize that.

But Kimi did say that he had a bad start tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 28 2008, 02:11 PM)
........

Ferrari's are always very good in launching the car during the start.
Some people don't realize that.

But Kimi did say that he had a bad start  tongue.gif
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mclaren used to be the fastest car out of corner. now, they're losing to ferrari.
btw, kimi's bad start is prolly' equal to any driver's good start tongue.gif
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Mclaren's decreased pace could be
1) Removal of stolen Ferrari technology
2) Lack of Alonso's input

either one or both?

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QUOTE(yaphong @ Apr 28 2008, 03:10 PM)
Mclaren's decreased pace could be
1) Removal of stolen Ferrari technology
2) Lack of Alonso's input

either one or both?
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of course removal of ferrari tech .. mayb ron dennis will get another SPY soon brows.gif
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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 28 2008, 12:58 AM)
Tell him, TV or ME ...
That'll dig into his brain smile.gif
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Then he respond,

Shelter or homeless laugh.gif
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oh sooou proud of your 2007 technology, leaked by yrself whistling.gif yet still leaking stuff here and there, like the infamous nose hole. i wonder who is the next to be blamed ....

not only removal, but development freeze for this season on the parts affected. handicap ? maybe. but well deserved.
plus the lack of driver experience, contributed to the lack of pace. as it is clear now Alonso's 0.6sec claim is not totally bullshit.

but most importantly mclaren is still here. still challenging, else it will look like a total domination. but it seems inevitable ferrari will dominate the rest of the season. im still hoping for the best, which is exciting races.

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QUOTE(jejes @ Apr 28 2008, 02:01 PM)
I think Kimi not help massa on purpose.. as anyone will do the same to block the one behide them (nearest to them)
... Ya.. If Alonso have a good start, then he should cut out different line to overtake.. but he know his car not enough power to do that...


Added on April 28, 2008, 2:07 pmsuch a stupid pitlane rules... not really understand all those high pay people sitting in FIA can come out this rule...

"somebody make mistake, accident, safety car... those with no fuel take the panalty for other people mistake.." So... Sporting F1!
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Kimi already know he got massa covered, massa's behind him for goodness sake. laugh.gif
Alonso got a good start, just not good enough to overdrag kimi, maybe because his car sucks.

QUOTE(Alternation @ Apr 28 2008, 04:01 PM)
Then he respond,

Shelter or homeless laugh.gif
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Ohhh then you have to be bold. Tell them, your son or your damn home. >=(
HAhAhHAhAah
He'll surrender laugh.gif


Added on April 28, 2008, 5:24 pmI do hope to see Renault's reincarnation during this season laugh.gif
Alonso looks very positive despite his car failed on him though. I think they know which direction they can improve for now.

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gone back to the last year scandal, the main whistle blower was a guy working at the copier shop somewhere in woking.
he alerted the ferrari hq when none other than the mclaren technical engineer involved went for copies of the highly classified ferrari sheets.
btw, it's already over. the justice is already served.

agree with you that mclaren prolly' paying the price of having inexperience line up.
talented maybe hammy is, but he is a noob when it comes to technical know how and inputs. even though he had been around for almost 9 years.
while ferrari had been getting constant inputs from msc.

btw, with alonso's special input to the revamp renault car, the race onwards gonna be more excited.
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QUOTE(yaphong @ Apr 28 2008, 03:10 PM)
Mclaren's decreased pace could be
1) Removal of stolen Ferrari technology
2) Lack of Alonso's input

either one or both?
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none. because Ferrari has up the ante. so its up to the other teams to catch up.

and i LOL'ed at people who thinks that McLaren is the fastest car on track last year :

Pole : Ferrari (10), McLaren (7)
Fastest Lap : Ferrari (12), McLaren (5)

and if you said that McLaren is slower this season, you take compare lap times lap by lap before making comments on McLaern pace.
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agree. it's up to the other teams to catch up rclxms.gif
btw, ever since kimi's stint in mclaren, the commentators used to mentioned about the mclaren's car going faster out of
the corner
compared to others. they seem to have a better acceleration back then. anyway, faster acceleration doesn't usually transform into being a fastest car on track.
imo, the drivers make a hell of different too!

btw, i was just being puzzled by hammy's the lack of achievements. so far, his performance is just a pale shadow of his achievements in the same number of race last year.
maybe people are expecting more from him after a successful rookie year.
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phew... luckily heikki is ok... but during the post race interview, both massa n kimi were whispering with each other while Lewis is answering the questions... mad.gif isssh... pay no attention n respect ah...
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Apr 28 2008, 06:20 PM)
agree. it's up to the other teams to catch up  rclxms.gif
btw, ever since kimi's stint in mclaren, the commentators used to mentioned about the mclaren's car going faster out of
the corner
compared to others. they seem to have a better acceleration back then. anyway, faster acceleration doesn't usually transform into being a fastest car on track.
imo, the drivers make a hell of different too!

btw, i was just being puzzled by hammy's the lack of achievements. so far, his performance is just a pale shadow of his achievements in the same number of race last year.
maybe people are expecting more from him after a successful rookie year.
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Hamilton is under intense pressure by the Brit media to perform the best and since he's no longer in his 'rookie years' all mistakes, even if it's little is highlighted even more. Obvious disadvantage but it's only 4 races into the season. Too early to predict anything other than the fact that Ferrari is ahead of the pack. Or maybe BMW will win a race.

One thing is Renault is in big problem. During testing, twice did their engine broke down and it ultimately broke down during the actual race day. The problem is definitely caused by the increase of horse power in the R28, but they have poor cooling system. From RF1 Paddock Pass, they said that if Renault cannot find a solution to cool their engine; they'll have to cancel their upgrade. What's the point of being fast if your cars have bad reliability? doh.gif

And aha, Ferrari is using the car with that hole in the nose. thumbup.gif

Poor Nick, if he didn't go into the pitstop he risked having his car stopping on track. What's up with that stupid 'pit lane rule'. Don't tell me it's better to run out of fuel than being penalized for 10 seconds? rclxub.gif

About Alonso's technical input, he's good at setting up his car but he's not an engineer. There is only to a limit that he can try to set-up the car to suit the track but the most important thing that Renault doesn't have right now is competent and experienced engineers. There is a fine line between technical input and revamping the car. To all Alonso fans don't 'overdo' it. doh.gif [I'm one too but at least I'm realistic as to his chances]

Edit* Renault has certainly improved and Alonso said that he can now start enjoying the races. But let's hope they can keep this up. Wishing all the best to Renault team & Alonso/Piquet!

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Apr 28 2008, 06:33 PM)
phew... luckily heikki is ok... but during the post race interview, both massa n kimi were whispering with each other while Lewis is answering the questions... mad.gif isssh... pay no attention n respect ah...
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This kind of minor stuff you also can complain. Grow up lah doh.gif
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if u look back all of the post race interview from start from many year ago... a lot of driver did that if they are friend each others... except example pair like hammy & aLonso.. nod.gif
But when Ferrari driver did that... there driver always get the shoot... shakehead.gif

also because normally the camera will only focus on that driver.. not sure why this time the camera just view on all 3 driver..


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QUOTE(SeeD @ Apr 28 2008, 06:36 PM)
This kind of minor stuff you also can complain. Grow up lah doh.gif
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minor stuff oso cant say meh? its nth relate to grow up boh... dry.gif the ferrari drivers had given me an arrogant feel after they win the race...

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