QUOTE(owSpiA` @ Mar 28 2008, 04:55 AM)
sux tourney ..
there is no meaning tourney !!!
there is no meaning tourney !!!
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 Mar 28 2008, 05:11 AM
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LOL owspia, I thought u and mikebz from ice clan?? last time dna tournament i saw u both play for ice team. But suddenly mikebz play for ks and now u 2 form your own team?
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Mar 28 2008, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(owSpiA` @ Mar 28 2008, 02:23 PM) sohem??? As i heard last time u also from ice clan, but now ice ban u. My mind just got up 2 reasons they ban u.noob dun talk cock here la.. lema ask Ice come pk la. NO DARE !!  1)You betrayed ice clan 2)You too pro so they scared to lose but due to they also allowed Kingsurf, mKvL to join so i think that's the first reason. Just my 2 cents or maybe u more handsome than ice's organizer so they ban u haha  |
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Mar 28 2008, 08:12 PM
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oWn!!! last time u not same team with owspia????????? wtf...
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Mar 29 2008, 12:47 AM
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Why u all argue so much here?
To Owspia: If you think they ban you for no reason, why not you just go to ask the ice organizer by yourself (in PM or personal talk)? You spam here also useless. I can understand your feeling but instead of flaming here why not you just straight go ask ice organizer? Ask them "WHY YOU BAN ME?" For MikeBz, i think i understand why they ban him. Imagine that from ice -> Ks -> ftz? (correct me if i m wrong). If i m not mistaken, some ggc player said that mike always left clan without inform their leader. Maybe that reason cause they ban him. |
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QUOTE(mikemike @ Mar 30 2008, 12:58 AM) 这个比赛是ice主办的，他们有权利说给谁参加谁没得参加。他们ban我和owspia却是有他们的原因和理由但是我们又不能做什么，因为我们得却是背叛了ice而离开的时候又没有给他们一个交待。在这里我们向ice的老板说声道歉。不过我们在ice做一个队的时间不长，不过我们也帮ice拿了不错的成绩，我和owspia曾经在柔佛的versus比赛和雪兰尔的比赛拿了冠军，我们还在吉隆坡的dna比赛那下亚军。过了不久ks就邀请我入队那时我就离开了ice而owspia最后也离开了。我们承认我们得却没有跟ice的老板说因此这个比赛就把我们给ban了。不过ice的老板并没有想过我和owspia帮他把ice在马来西亚打出那么好的名誉，现在我敢说在马来西亚谁不认识ice这cc??我想没有.做比赛是要给每个队切搓势力,如果做比赛去ban人的话那么你们觉得这个比赛还有意仪吗?? 何况我们都是摈城人只是觉得的很可惜在自己的州没有机会去比赛.. Mm..... Now you made all things clear, but i think you guys should talk with ice organizer personally, let's see whether they can give u all a chance or not especially what your friend (owspia) insult too much on ice at the beginning of this thread, somemore bad words this will make situation even worst.Mm.... I support u mike but not your friend (owspia) at least you talk nicely and politely. If i'm ice organizer i won't ban you but too bad i m not!  gl to you. |
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QUOTE Due to many people asked me about this, i have made up my to post up here and let others clan member know the truth for BOTH of them. At first, we talk about MikeBz. Before he leaves Ice and joined Kingsurf, I already heard a lot of rumors about he's joining Kingsurf. I know player transfer is quite normal especially the team Kingsurf (Malaysia No.1) come invite him and i can't think of one reason to convince him to stay at Ice because maybe he can improve their skill level higher once he joined Ks and make us proud to win in every national competition. But, all i want is just a simple thing - NOTICE. A simple notification of telling the sponsor that you are joining Kingsurf is it to feel very awkward? Some people said that "They not taking any salary from Ice, so no need to inform", then tell me, who pay for the registration fee for your competition, accommodation, petrol and etc. when you guys join tournament especially for long distance. You are partially taking salary from us already just you can't realize only. If that reason is unacceptable at least to respect the sponsor also since they provide free playing as well as so much sponsorship to the team. After all, i heard MikeBz joined Ftz and the same case happen on Kingsurf (Only difference is Kingsurf haven't sponsor MikeBz before) Now turn to owSpiA, actually i don't mean to ban him but due to the rudeness questioning and enquiry, i decided to ban him. I m not to make trouble out of nothing. Here's the story: When everyone heard about rumors that MikeBz joining Ks, I was message him and asking about their current team issues, he no answer me. The next day, i saw him created another account called gosuOwspiA in GGc, i message him again regarding he's still in Ice team or not, and he replied me "No more", then i informed him "then you longer can use the free account", then he replied me "K" that's all. While he stated he no longer belongs to ice team, I found out that he's still using FREE ice team playing account until i informed my staff to change the password. The next following day, he tried to login again but the password was invalid and he just play for 1 hour then went back and never come back already. This "covet small advantages" really can't acceptable. Besides, his ignore criticism from either their teammate or sponsor and make the team disintegrating are also the point why i first consider to ban him. Maybe he has his own idea but he will never share and never tell, but as a team everything must share. But that's not the main issues i want to ban him as if he ask nicely earlier and talk with me personally, i won't ban him as he's a good player to watch but his disrespect manner ("sux tourney, there's no meaning tourney", "ban player lagi wan organized tourney", "noob dun talk cock here la.. lema ask Ice come pk la. NO DARE !!") quote from Lowyat.net really can't forgive him. This will only reveal his ignorance and his bad characteristic. No doubt they both help ice lifted few trophy in some major tournament and helps Ice to increase its reputation, but seriously Ice never treat you guys bad, few times last minutes ask for sponsorship without proper training, we also ok for it so what's it? is it a MUST? However, i more concern about people's personality as they choose to flame on other forum, but refuse to talk with me in personally. This disrespect and childish manner really can't convince myself to abolish the rules. Although they both have proficiency skill in DotA or maybe some of you think that i m too cruel (not giving them chance), but seriously they have to learn - to learn about how to respect sponsor, organizer as well as teammate, and learn to confront each other not just shout for an injustice, unfair. Finally, i m here to inform owspia and mike - WE DON'T AFRAID TO LOSE! FOR ME WIN/LOSE IS NOTHING Think of it, Monzai, Mayahie, SeaNz also been left the ice team before but why I just banned you both? Quite a long message there. Mmm... Still the same why you guys don't want go look for ice's organizer by youself and explain. It shows you all are afraid to discuss with him, instead of posting so much why not direct go to ice then ask the tauke. At least ice's organizer show us something, from what i understand here 4 reasons they ban owspia and mike 1) MikeBz left ice without inform their boss (But i'm admire him because he can stand out and talk about his fault) - Add Points  2) owSpiA rudeness questioning and enquiry and yes, he's. You decide to make statement here instead of ask for the truth first - Deduct Points 3) owSpiA take covet small advantages - This one i can't sound out as only you both(owSpiA and Ice tauke) know it - 0 Points 4) owSpiA has attitute problems (Critical Damage  ) - I think that's the main problem why they ban owSpiA - Deduct Points QUOTE nick11gts Posted Today, 02:28 PM oohh u r the boss of the well known ICE cybercafe!!!i cant bliv ice boss i such a cheapo...y i said so???letz c erm, bus fee rm56 each person (KL TO PNG and PNG TO KL) * 5 =rm280// + hotel for 2 nights( rm85 * 2 = rm170)... rm500 - rm280 - rm170 =RM50!!!!!! meanz every1 still got 10 ringgit!!!!rm 10 ringgit = KL 1 meal habis!!! the rest they hav be street rats like alladin,stealing breads.So called sponsor ....i cant stop laughing the sponsor is actually dat much !! Some cybercafe only sponsor certain things only, from your calculation only meals doesn't include but everything is included. But based on my survey, only few cybercafe willing to sponsor teams to go for KL or other place tournament. How many branches ice has now? If their network like Ftz all around Malaysia then 500-600 consider "cheapo" But if there's no branches they not consider "cheapo" already because what I knew, in Penang only ftz team and ice team always go to KL fight for tournament one, somemore sometimes sending 2 to 3 teams so i guess your statement is out d. QUOTE MoNzAi Posted Today, 02:42 PM now the problem is not the banning him from tournament anymore, look wat ice post at their own forum, did u guys have any proof? i never start flaming in this tread but after i saw the post at ur forum i cant control myself to type something here, is that is ur so call reason to ban ppl i which is RUDE and attitude problem, u jz go ahead but if u say after he quit team he still play with ur id i think u need to show some proof if not u need to pay ur apologize I think this one only they both knew it. Maybe ice's tauke not really like him so use this reason to ban him or maybe owspia lying - unless on that day, u was in ice then u able to speak if not we won't know the truth. QUOTE hey Ice boss !!! u wan me say out ur cc bad thingS?? ur words is make me non-stop posting msg here ICE is the most sux sponsor i get !!!!! i already help take some many tourney achievment bac.. we still need to paid for gaming and training !! coz we got win some tourney and quite famous in dota scene .. when i telling team mKvl we stil need paid for gaming in ICE cc .. they also laugh me !! how bad is it??? ... lol... i also unbelieveable now !!! from early they just sponsor us for the fees which travel to KL for tourney .. and not much more !!! they give 1 team 500 or 600 somtimes !!!!! we need stay KL for 2 days !! bus feess !!! teksi and all !!! how bad their sponsor !! we 5 ppl need rent for a small room and 5 ppl slp inside .. am i sound any bad of it???? i am of of tat !! wat ICE treat is badly ... even ur own player also mean of it !!! ur free id give us no longer also !!!!! just 1 month i think but look at the achievement!! how many we get the tourney to get the little sponsor !!!! wat i dun wan post it here.. u make it happen !! it helps to make ur Ice cc name sux and sux !!!! think of it DUDE Funny, u slap your own face ka? Just now already mention FREE gaming now said need to pay money? If you guys not satisfy with the sponsor offer, why not you guys ask for other sponsorship earlier? What's the main point you play for ice, think youself? Free gaming? Somtimes your statement a bit cannot be trusted. Anyway, I m not side either side, i just think u guys too emo. It just a small tournament only and i told you before owspia, you sux here and there also no point, DIRECT GO SEE ICE TAUKE ASK BY YOURSELF!  |
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QUOTE(owSpiA` @ Mar 30 2008, 07:10 PM) i duno who r u.. Hoah~ I just pointed out some important issues and please look carefully all information are got from message above which quoted by Devildoll, posted by youself. Now you said i make prediction, hello? This is forum which everyone has the right to speak as long as I didn't break the rules. You just made me more likely to "shot" you back, look at your own replied you HAVE just SLAP yourself again. and y u so side the Ice .. mayb u r their fren..!!! y u post so many things here.. and u duno all the truth??? or u are someone of Ice cc player?? pls dun state and make prediction about our post !! u are out of this situation ..!! so pls remain quiet and listen wat we talk !!!! dun make ur own prediction !!! as my last few thread .. i say i am ok of banning me.. and i enough for those nonsence reason tat ban me from this toruney . i am willing to stop those this WAR !!! but u guys is alway tell the FAKE things here and trying to make my name bad n bad...!! tat make me cont my post !!! is irritating man , !!! and wat u state are all WRONG !! there is Lots of penang cc here willing to sponsor us !! not onli this 2 cc !!! and y Ice sending so many team for tourney !!? tat is their porblem.. they willing to keep those team which is their loyalty customer !! so NO CHOICE !!tat wat they wan.. small cc y wan sponsor for 5 teams for tourney? it sound weird !!! just MAKE WAT U THINK RIGHT !!! and cont it... dun cont make so many fake posting !!! thx !! Added on March 30, 2008, 7:20 pmSo , we just stop here I AM HERE TELLING U GUYS TAT I NOT WILLING TO JOIN THIS TOURNEY !!! *pls dun cont make some UNREASONABLE posting here !!! or not i beh tahan to cont it !!! gd luck my fren ~ mkvl and w4si for joining this toruney !!! As i said, if you think their sponsor is out of you WHY YOU STILL ACCEPT THEIR SPONSORSHIP?  Second, you mentioned it's free playing, do you think Ice consider those teams are their loyalty customer (without earning their money), somemore they pay for your sponsorship although u mentioned is little but still the situation is you earn ice's money, aren't they? Are you sure this do call "CUSTOMER"? Third, you stated "small cc y wan sponsor for 5 teams for tourney? it sound weird !!", this only shows that you are the one who "打完斋不要和尚,再把他糟蹋!" - Ask for sponsor, get the sponsor then now you complain about their bad. So you think that your view is REASONABLE is it? If you think i side ice more or watever, I don't care anyway because I don't need explain to you and I don't want too! How i know you or where i know you, damage ice reputation? damage you and your friends reputation? it doesn't matter to me. I m here just to share my opinion and my view. I don't mind if you scold me, but please think what you done first before start attacks, blame, to humiliate others. QUOTE MayaHie Posted Yesterday, 07:45 PM yeah.. may be as u said .. look at his profile .. "Joined March 2008" just created this acc bcs of this thread ? haha Before I made any responses to you, please look at your friends nick11gts "Joined March 2008".  QUOTE nick11gts Posted Yesterday, 07:52 PM yea outsider is a smart person...y not settle it ICE VS FTZ...if ICE win den FTZ kenot join...if FTZ win den can join this tourney...afterall ICE is NO.1 team in penang leh... Too obvious, you still don't know the rules. From what I knew, they just banned player not a TEAM. ________________________________________________________________________________ If you guys want to stop, then stop it. Let it be and pass. Maybe if next time ice organize another tournament, you all won't get banned already as i believe when time goes long, everything's fine or maybe next time if this issue still happen, talk to ice's tauke nicely. This post has been edited by unholypriest: Mar 31 2008, 03:46 AM |
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QUOTE(MoNzAi @ Mar 31 2008, 03:38 AM) unholypriest, i think u really dunno they only free playing at ice for around one month time, b4 that we are pay to play ourself even we win smm in state and also went to grandfinal, that time we still pay to play Ok, like that i made apologies to owspia about the second issue i mentioned. Sorry  This post has been edited by unholypriest: Mar 31 2008, 04:02 AM |
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QUOTE(nick11gts @ Mar 31 2008, 04:07 AM) lolx till now he still bliv i am oswpia....speechless Do I mentioned YOU ARE owspia? or YOU SUPPOSED to be owspia? or YOU MIGHT be owspia? OMG!!! I really have nothing to say on you nick~ |
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One thing for sure, you guys lack of understanding a bit.
QUOTE MoNzAi Posted Today, 04:54 AM finally i got some idea why ice ban owspia and mike, yes they hate them and is true we cant admit it, no matter they did or they did not anything bad to ice we dun wan talk abt this, i jz wanna say as a example, a tourney organizer damm tulan player A and player B, and player A and player B is jz a f***ing noob player that every1 able to pawn them easily, will the orgaznier wasting time and eneygy to ban player A and player B? in other way round the organizer will HOPE that player A and player B join his own tourney and tapao them 1st round becoz they dun like player A and player B.. am i right? if u are the organizer, i ask u now, will u ban 2 sohai(A and B) that u hate joining ur own tourney or will u welcome them to join so that u can tapao them? i guess u got the answer so i dun wan to say anymore this is my last post at this thread and gl for my fren joining this tourney! welcome to penang! Why not you try to ask owspia/mikebz form different team (with 3/4 Noob player), see ice allow them to join or not? If they allow means ice really afraid to lose but if they not allow then how? Means your supporting statement is not come into existence. Is that clear? I m waiting your answer then...  QUOTE nick11gts Posted Today, 04:59 AM maybe ur otak small abit so dun get it...u asked mayahie suddenly look at me by saying "before i made any responses to u,please look at your frend nick11gts" look at me for wad wor??dere is only 1 person who u mean nick11gts is even if u didn't mention. kita nee manusia,manusia ada otak dan tahu fikir....and i hope u r 1 of us... I m lazy to talk with you already. YOU STILL DON'T GET MY MEANING! OMG! QUOTE MayaHie Posted Today, 05:09 AM Before I made any responses to you, please look at your friends nick11gts "Joined March 2008". yeah .. i admit that he is my fren .. so ? what bout u ? ice's supporter ? or ice's doggy ? haha If you think i m ice's supporter, then you also ftz's supporter. If you think i m ice's doggy, then i m so glad and welcome that you are one of us and I m not alone QUOTE Stim-oWn Posted Today, 05:09 AM 我们英文差的就要用华语来讲话了....饼干,我们怎样说也是朋友,而且也差不多1年了,其实我在这个比赛知道的东西只是这样而已... 其实老板跟我们讲的只是要封mikebz而已而没有你,然后不只道哪一个混蛋去放消息说封你,然后你就没有问清楚就直接去骂老板,是人也不爽啦,然后老板就直接说不用那么麻烦,连owspia也直接封掉,然后你也更加的粗鲁一直骂老板...其实我也不只道你干嘛的,为何跟一些人久了就会有反感,一定会解散队伍,你想想...你打dota到现在已经有多少个队伍了,我也算不出,你不一样哦,人家只是换队友,你而是队伍哦..还有,我们不是队伍了就不能做朋友了?上次我和朋友去ftz看到你,跟你打招呼你鸟也不鸟我?而且还是2次,不是队友了也需要这样吗?饼干,我只能告诉你,你每晚睡觉前关眼睛时想想你所做过的一切,你想像是发生在你的身上的话你会有怎样的感受,你会觉得我讲话很废,如果你不信可以试试 以前ice有4个队的时候不只道多热闹多高兴,何必要搞成好象现在这样,20个人见面也难为情........haizzzzzzz 饼干? oWn, message from Devildoll a.k.a ice's tauke already made it clear. They don't want ban owspia for the beginning but what makes them ban owspia, 2 things - You already stated one (Without proper questioning to ice and confirmation given by ice's tauke then insult ice too much); Second, they didn't discuss this issue with ice's tauke personally by face to face. But, i must admit that MikeBz has made apologies to ice is a very good example to learn. From my view, i think ice should give him chance. He's the real man, the only one i pay respect to him. |
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QUOTE(MoNzAi @ Mar 31 2008, 05:57 AM) unholy i dunno wer u from but i jz noticed that ur account only created march and all ur post is in this thread.. well thx for ur concern abt this topic i love u so much man I m just a noob dota player, viewed through this website cause need to know about the tournament details but realized that you guys and ice in war. I just share my opinion, but you guys think i m side ice and keep scolding me. If it was you, what will you feel? I only side the RIGHT and REASONABLE side. But if your friends think i m ice player then I have nothing to say cause what i've said is that all. Honestly, I hope ice can give mike a chance. Really.. and i hope to end this topic also. Regarding to owspia issues, my suggestion is go to ice and talk to the tauke. Monzai trust me, the output is different one. Anyway, I'm tired with this. May the DOTA WAR BEGIN not this argue WARI suggest you go with owspia go to see them will do as i realized that you are not emotional person and able to talk nicely. See you then. |
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QUOTE(owSpiA` @ Mar 31 2008, 01:47 PM) he guys ... listen here !! owspia, Ice-SeaNz is the boss? or Devildoll? Even the order taken by organizer was given by the ICE OWNER. You rather ask this SeaNz also don't want ask Devildoll directly? If you ask SeaNz do i get banned, he only can answered YES OR NO but NO (WHY). Is it easy to go direct to Devildoll instead of either SeaNz or the organizer nD as you still can ask WHY? You've got the answer from SeaNz you have banned but why not go to talk with ice's tauke first before making any insulting statement. Just imagine when u driving a car and suddenly get caught by policeman, you stop your car at roadside and now you starts thinking what rules you violate, when you open your windows while waiting the policeman coming forward to you car, a jogger run through your car and said that you speed, so now you think you are violating the traffic speed rules. But when the policeman come, you only realized that it was you FORGET TO WEAR YOUR SEATBELT. Understand?i mention again !!!! y i post this thread?>>> sux tourney ..Ice sux tourney ?!!! i get inform by the rganiser >> Ice-Seanz ... telling me tat i get banned from this toruney too... so i make post this thread !! so am i wrong???? Ice-Seanz is organiser rite?? he said is lie??? SO WAT UR MENTION .. IS ALL WRONG !!! WAT I TALK UNPOLITELY OR TALK ABOUT ICE BAD !! TATS ALL HAPPEN AFTER THE ORGANISER ( Ice-Seanz) TELLING ME THIS ALL !!!!! SO I DUN THINK IS MY WRONG !! THINK IT .. 2ndly , i wan say tat .. ya . we are fren .. i never talk bad of u guys .. u say hi , i smile ... izit i not sincerely?? and the frenly math is i asking u guys come... i am the only guys got talk to u guys >> i mean i arrange with Ice-Seanz ... so i never take u guys as enenmy... this WAR begin WHEN U GUYS START TALK MY BAD , BANNED ME FROM ICE TOURNEY AND ALSO U GUYS SHOOTING ME IN THIS FORUM !!!! due to wat u guys shoot and talk my bad !! all is not acceptable !! i dun think it is my FAULT at all !! think it bac !!! all begin when i get iform by ORGANISER >> Ice-Seanz telling me this fact !!! SO THIS THING U GUYS MUST MAKE SURE BY URSELF !! THIS IS UR ICE INTERNAL THINGS .. I THINK SOME PPL IS TRYING MAKE THIS SITUATION HAPPEN !! SO PLS DO CHECK INTERNAL BY UR ICE ORGANISER URSELF !! DUN MAKE TOO MANY UNREAL POST AND PREDICTION ON ME.. AND ALLS MY BAD !!!! 3rdly , i wan said tat ... ya.. i agree netcity is sonsor us by Rm400 even less than Ice .. so we choose ICE at last .. and u said about the i ask ANDY merayu for ahyang sponsor coz .. me and andy teams is already form for long and train all the times in netcity as netcity team 1 and team 2 .. so we might go through any sponsor together !! so we go together !!!!!!! last time netcity sponsor less .. we are ok !! coz we stil never won any achievement in my dota life .. but when we win more tourney and help to advertise the cc names .. we might get more good sponsor rite?? it is normal cast !!! so i am telling that .. Ice is sponsor less RM500 per team .. and need paid for playing and training in ICe !!! then as u mention .. 4 team * RM500 = RM2000 !!! y dun a boss think it.. take the best 2 team to join.. for wat waste so many money on 4 team.. coz there is no chance for 4 team go into semi rite??? if take 2 best team going ... there will be 1 team = RM 1000... is it look better?? this is wat a busineman thinking rite?? THINK IT !!!! LAST i wan said tat... now i stil canot find the reason i get banned !! due to the unpolite words.. all happen after ur banning action !!! so it is NOT considered !!!!!! but since they said .. organiser is the rules !!! so i obey it since i get ban .. and this wont change i think !!! i already mention .. GOOD LUCK TO THIS TOURNEY ! AGAIN!! unholy.. i know u telling ur opinion !! but u talk too much d.. u unrealizely shot alot of us.. and we not even know who r u.. u make too much than tat d.. coz u is out of this situation ..since u said u r a dota player !!! this is our private / personal problem.. if can just look and post wat related to toruney!!! u had make too much post of our WAR !!! HOPE U UNDERSTAND IT !!! gOod luck guys !!! If you guys think that ice sponsorship has problems, i don't think so. From point of my view, sponsorship merely just to take it or leave it. If you guys think ice's sponsorship is little when you help them builded up their reputation, you guys can leave it what since you mentioned there are a lot of other cybercafe willing to sponsor much more than ice. Why still take it and at the same time blame them? From your point, take of best 2 teams to join then sponsor would be much right? Excuse me, you guys borned to be a GODLIKE DOTA PLAYER? Ice fairly gives opportunity to ALL of you, but you guys think that they are stupid. You merely stand on the player side to think, why not you try stand on the cafe side to think about it. 10 peoples unable to participate into competition and you guys able to get extra sponsorship, what a self-fish people. Imagine what if the 10 peoples that was included you, what will you think? I agreed that ice's tauke is not a real businessman, not putting profit into his first objectives. Maybe next time if you got chance to open cybercafe, use the above system that you stated. Let's see what's the feedback because you are the boss, not player anymore. Yes, you help ice won few trophy back and advertise cc's name. Bro, your team NEVER lose before at the beginning? ice got blame you guys is it when you guys lose? Based on your friend xXSoonXx words, your team joined Sino.Net competition, your team ice`pia lost in second round, SMM ice both team lost in last 16, do they blame you all? They still keep sponsoring you guys what! Lose act nothing but win request for more sponsor? Review the Kingsurf case. I know i m not related to this so called WAR. But when I share my opinion to you guys, you guys shot me first. Harlo, i m giving you the direction, look at my previous post how many times i asked you TO GO FIND ICE'S TAUKE TO TALK PERSONALLY BUT DO YOU? and you think i m shoting you *faint* especially your friend mayahie and nick. This would make me cannot refrain myself to counter-attack. But if anything i said was wrong, i made my apologies to you first but if it doesn't I think you've to made apologies to ice also after all they still sponsor your team so much and so long already and yes you've insulted them. 以和为贵,大家欢乐！ Cheers!  |
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