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post Apr 9 2008, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 9 2008, 11:57 AM)
At 3.36, they are making instant some peanut profit out of it, why not? Queueing don't need to pay a single cent one.  biggrin.gif

The party intends to take Magnum private one also will queue as it means slightly lower buying price for them at this price.

So you will see tons of Q everyday, unless the privatisation is calling off which very very unlikely.
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i agree,
the thing is i am holding some magnum shares wub.gif ,
and i dont see a reason to let go until the privatisation pries it from me cool.gif .

....only if i am really short on cash or my other fav whistling.gif drops to all time low...then maybe sweat.gif
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post Apr 9 2008, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(chen9wei @ Apr 9 2008, 04:56 PM)
Quote this one from investpedia

"Do not, however, think of the period between transaction and settlement as a flex time in which you can back out of the deal. The deal is done on the transaction day--it's just the transfer that does not take place until later. "

Is that mean if i goreng the stock with all my 12k, and sell off on T+2 , i no need to charge interest ?
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u get "charge" difference between buying and selling price brows.gif
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post Apr 9 2008, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(lklatmy @ Apr 9 2008, 05:07 PM)
If i do that,I am killing my clients. brows.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  I advocate long term ,not trading. tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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well then which long term counter do u advice? brows.gif

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post Apr 10 2008, 03:01 PM

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mkt having a slight rally rclxms.gif will it last? hmm.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 03:19 PM

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maybe there's good new coming? rclxm9.gif

or could it be a one day thing sweat.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 05:07 PM

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thought today was going to be another sleepy klse,

but around 3pm klse starts to run, anybody has any leads at all why unsure.gif
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post Apr 10 2008, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 10 2008, 05:09 PM)
becoz market is happy today, lol

dear cherroy, 2836 closed at 4.10, try harder laugh.gif
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some news from the star...

CPO to rally on tight vegetable oils supply
By HANIM ADNAN


nem@thestar.com.my

PETALING JAYA: Crude palm oil (CPO) is expected to trade near the RM4,000 per tonne mark within the next few weeks as fear over vegetable oils supply tightness escalates following strikes in Indonesia and Argentina.

In Argentina, farmers are set to revive a three-week strike against a tax hike in soyoil exports that was called off last week if the government fails to meet their demands.

Meanwhile, port workers in Indonesia are planning a major strike after Parliament passed legislation on Tuesday ending a state monopoly on operation of the country's ports.

A trader told StarBiz that CPO was heading for a run-up in the next two weeks based on the latest developments in Indonesia and Argentina, the world's largest producer of palm oil and soybean respectively.

China is also importing more palm oil in the second quarter following its traditional low purchase season in the first quarter.

CPO, after hitting an all-time high of RM4,486 per tonne last month, dropped about 30% in a sell-off early this month.

Yesterday, CPO futures on Bursa Derivatives closed lower with the benchmark June contract down RM50 to RM3,325 per tonne.The trader said CPO was expected to trade above RM3,000 per tonne in 2008 and 2009, as Malaysia and Indonesia were set to face worse haze threats due to a we akening La Nina this year.

Drier periods are expected with the possibility of more hot spots in the world's two largest palm oil producing countries.

The effects of haze are often felt six or 12 months later, which could lead to lower palm oil yield and reduced output.

AmResearch in its latest sector update said: "If the haze occurs this year, CPO production in 2009 will decline, thus further boosting CPO prices."

The haze in 2006 resulted in CPO production declining to 15.8 million tonnes in 2007 from 15.9 million tonnes in 2006.

For 2008, industry experts have forecast Malaysia's CPO production to range from 16.2 million to 17.3 million tonnes, and Indonesia's output at 18.4 million to 19.8 million tonnes.

AmResearch, which has an "overweight" on the sector, has buy calls on IOI Corp Bhd and Kuala Lumpur Kepong Bhd.

It also likes smaller cap plantations like Sarawak Oil Palms Bhd and TH Plantations Bhd as well as Singapore-listed Wilmar International Ltd and Indofood Agri Resources Ltd.
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post Apr 11 2008, 09:33 AM

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looks like people are locking into profits, buying has slowed sweat.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 11 2008, 10:37 AM)
Selling pressure already eased out. Now everyone waiting for dont know for what  rclxub.gif
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yup, need to wait until clearer signal hmm.gif ...
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post Apr 11 2008, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 11 2008, 11:00 AM)
Looks like wild, wild west. More like a stand-off who is going to shoot first. Practically market is stagnant  rclxub.gif
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nobody wants to "shoot" firsts biggrin.gif must save "bullets" but must try to make a "killing" also ... so how hmm.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Apr 11 2008, 05:31 PM)
See you all on monday....
Monday will be a green green day....
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really.... laugh.gif sweat.gif ...hope so....
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post Apr 12 2008, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 12 2008, 02:40 PM)
Actually I personally think that all investors associated with KLSE have factored in alot of fear in political instability since 9th march. Anwar coming back is a boost and not the other way around. Just feel that the sideline can't get much worst. Just my 2 cents.  biggrin.gif
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base on that statement, i take it u have put or are going to put all your money in the klse brows.gif notworthy.gif
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post Apr 13 2008, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 13 2008, 12:00 AM)
Haha no not all...i've put some small money on friday in hopes to make some duit kopi...  tongue.gif
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lol i did the same thing biggrin.gif ,
hopefully the regional market can turn red sweat.gif on monday so that our klse can go green flex.gif


Added on April 13, 2008, 11:31 am
QUOTE(dsugums @ Apr 13 2008, 10:45 AM)
In my opinion, there is no point holding it for long term at current situation. If your stock already making money, sell off. If drops again (which will), buy again. I think better to have some liquidity to strike at opportunities when crops up.
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so true,

in current climate once my stock hit a price level enough to cover the trading cost and some "pizza hut" i would sell even if its a good stock. icon_idea.gif

(with exception to one particular stock.... wub.gif )


Added on April 13, 2008, 11:50 amQuick qustion for those using online trading icon_question.gif

I am currently using HLebroking and is happy 90% of the time nod.gif

but i notice that cimb is pushing it's online trading (cimbclick i think) recently so i went and check it out.

What they are advertising is brokrage rate of RM8.88 PER transaction shocking.gif , but didnt mention if it's the min. chargable amount (like HLe's RM12 min.) or the actual percentage rate (like HLe's 0.42%).

Does anybody has a CIMB online trading a/c who can advice?

thanks in advance

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post Apr 14 2008, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 13 2008, 11:10 PM)
This is what we had been worried about. The min commission offered (Rm12, or 8.88) lately is exploiting the loop hole of RM40 min that announced during last budget. Investment house surely complain to SC one. But I don't know the new itrade change is because of SC directive or not.

It (min commission) become a 'bait' to lure new investors to sign up with them.
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OIC...good to know icon_rolleyes.gif

i thought online broking is different since it has lower operating cost .... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Apr 14 2008, 10:52 AM)
Ive actually went to CIMB to talk to my dealer, he said the 8.88 promotion is until end of May only. After that it depends on the management whether want to continue or not but most probably no.

The reason is to "tarik" all those big fish player to cimb to trade.
What he explained is that using Itrade you must have balance of RM10k to buy stock. So let say when u open the account you must deposit Rm10k into it... the next day you bought 6k of stock. Bal RM4k. You cant buy anymore (using that account) unless you depo back RM6k to the account and enjoy the flat RM8.88 rate.
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quick qustion,

on the cimb website it's stated RM 8.88 "per" transaction, is that for any amount traded? drool.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 14 2008, 11:02 AM)
oh didnt know that CIMB offered RM8.88 flat rate  hmm.gif

agree with cherroy, yet another marketing scheme to lure customers.
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8.88 per 10k trade equals 0.088% fees....and goes lower the more u trade...

If it is really flat rate, i dont mind being lured. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Apr 14 2008, 11:16 AM)
Yes flat 8.88 regardless amount you trade. That's why this promo is more to lure big fish that trade huge amounts.
Clarify more...
The RM10k you put in wont enjoy any interest from the trader's account. This so call trader acct (8.88) is differnet from Itrade. So when you login to itrade you have to select the trader account when buying stock (for 8.88).
Also, what i found out is that we can always switch the stock you buy from trader acct back to ur normal itrade account at RM10 fees...

So... be quick if you want to play some... please dont take all the info i gave for granted make sure you ask the person there to double confirm it... might not know if the dealer just want to lure me ( im small fish only)
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OIC drool.gif

running to cimb to open a/c rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(JimJimKC @ Apr 14 2008, 11:31 AM)
hahah... the dealer told me the process of this account might take up to 2 week but still u have 1 month left for 8.88 rate!!
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well... better than nothing.. biggrin.gif


because...

not including stamp duty & clearing fee,

for buying & selling of stock A at RM10k
my remiser charges RM140.00 rclxub.gif
hle charges RM84.00 hmm.gif
Cimb charges RM17.76 thumbup.gif

cannot compare lah doh.gif

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post Apr 14 2008, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 14 2008, 02:49 PM)
I believe it is min commission only. If one buy RM1 million worth of shares then they still charge Rm8.88 meh?
Any CIMB users can clarify it?


Added on April 14, 2008, 2:53 pm

Sure abou it?

What if someone want to buy Rm500K or Rm1 miilion worth of shares? still charge 8.88? Then need to put how much money inside before can trade?

or just a intraday trade commission?

If no interest, then mean one is losing Rm25 on the 10K if put in for 1 month time. (with 1 month FD 3%)
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tried to open a a/c at CIMB bank but the staff blur blur doh.gif

called CIMB directly but only get the "i am not too sure answer" doh.gif


Added on April 14, 2008, 3:03 pm
QUOTE(PBB boleh @ Apr 14 2008, 02:59 PM)
tried to open a a/c at CIMB bank but the staff blur blur doh.gif

called CIMB directly but only get the "i am not too sure answer"  doh.gif
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btw trade limit for cimb is only x1, meaning got 10K can only trade 10K,
and must mantain 10K balance (at T+ 3 must top up money or sell)

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post Apr 15 2008, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(naz_b_85 @ Apr 15 2008, 02:10 PM)
Personally looking at tenaga at RM 6.00 for long-term  biggrin.gif
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If it falls to rm6.00 I be looking at rm5.00 biggrin.gif joking

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