Hi, just want to seek for advice from fellow owners of the respective DSLR's...

my 1st question, Nikon D200 vs Nikon D300 vs Sony A700: which is the best?

my 2nd question, after you have agreed with either 1 of the DSLR, what is the best 4 lenses would you pick?
--photo type base on lense that you have chosen. E.g: "i choose a 24mm lense because its a good bargain for macro and portrait, etc..."

-do provide valid, good and concrete reason why you choose.

i am seeking for advice as i need to decide which is value for money. i am not in a hurry so do provide me with everything you got.

thnaks in advance and do keep your flame to yourself.

p/s: please write down a good review/opinion/advice instead of "buy xxx, good edi" or "buy xxx good, yyy sucks"...

This post has been edited by lil twist: Mar 19 2008, 10:35 PM

The answer is so obvious;

D300 + 12-24 + 24-70 + 70-200 VR = Settled!

Why need the 4th lense?

Any lense la... if you have too much cash and really want to buy, then I would advise either 105 VR macro or 300 f2.8 lo...

IMO, it is important to settle the focal range first. Without focal range coverage, you cannot get the picture.

Both D200 and D300 is much more solid than A700 la... If you put side by side... those dunno camera one sure say those D200 and D300 is better liao...

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: Mar 19 2008, 07:20 PM

D300. Word. Nuff Said. TheVoIP gave you the best choice now. If you do not want the 12-24mm, then get the cheaper version from tokina, or a wider version sigma 10-20mm.

mind telling me the full spec and price?

great review btw, but still, need more opinions from the users... come in all A700, D200 and D300 users...

Ya... The reason for 24-70 rather than 17-55 is that maybe later FF become affordable or within reach ma...

Radical is right... the only problem of Nikon 12-24 is not wide enought... Can consider other brand because of this... But... other brand construction really not as solidly pretty as the Nikon.... I see other brand looks already

juz as voip said...
d300 + 14-24 + 24-70 + 70-200 + 105 / 85...
with that...u complete ur collection...
and u can shoot ANYTHING...
u want review?
2 words for d300...ALMOST PERFECT!
for the lenses...AWESOMENESS!

wow... refreshing...

mind provide me the price?

how bout flash? most people suggest SB800 correct:

no price limit?

wat u want to shoot?

And when you have that extra cash from your bonus later this year... You can swap your D300 for real camera like D3... and also replace your 12-24 with 14-24.

But best if you can buy the 14-24 straight la... so no need to change lense later...

And trust me, with D3 + 14-24 + 24-70 + 70-200 VR = Perfect! and stop thinking of upgrading already

Do remember that with FF like D3, your 70-200 VR can have one more stop of advantage of bluring the background... So maybe 85mm not so important liao.

And with D3, you can finally focus on taking good pictures rather than want to buy these and that.

It seems like i feel fear in this forum regarding the prices.. haha..

I cant tell you much since im neither of these 3 users.. but definitely.. the fight is among D300 and A700 only..

Some people no budget limit... Just have to get the right tools... then good pictures will come!

Everyone have their price

can elaborate for each lenses purposes??

ok2... put the price limit to RM10,000...

Please do not look down on lil twist capability

And with these superior 3 lenses rather than more... You can really focus more on taking pictures... Like if you want wider, then switch to wider lense... Life so simple...

If have cross focal length lenses, sometime a bit headache...

Now you should ask, which bag should I buy?

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Added on March 19, 2008, 7:45 pmRM10k too little la... At least RM20k la... Or else hard to have the right tools to take pictures...

Sometime with the right tools, the pictures really good... even no experinces like me

This post has been edited by TheVoIP: Mar 19 2008, 07:45 PM

10k la brader..

ur choice is out definitely!

however if u choose D300, with that budget u can hardly get 4 good lenses

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Added on March 19, 2008, 7:47 pmTS, if 10k is really ur limit and u want 4 lenses, i suggest u go to Sony system.

Else get nikon and limit urselves with fewer lenses

This post has been edited by harrychoo: Mar 19 2008, 07:47 PM

last time u said CMOS more superior than CCD worr... D200 is CCD

10k is just an assumption... thats why i ask for the price of each tools you guys have been mentioned...

btw, no good review/opinion on A700 and D200??? all D300 only meh??

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Added on March 19, 2008, 7:50 pmwhats the diff CMOS and CCD??

This post has been edited by lil twist: Mar 19 2008, 07:50 PM

with 10k...
u barely scratch the surface...
d300 = 5.7k
14-24 = 5.7k
24-70 = 5.4k
70-200 = 5.9k
105VR = 2.6k
85 1.4 = 3.3k
sb800 = 1.3k
batt grip = 700
CF x 2 x 8GB(Extreme IV) = 1.4k

with that...CHOOSE UR POISON!

as for lense purpose...
14-24 = wideangle (landscape)
24-70 = mid zoom (multi purpose)
70-200 = tele zoom (sports)
105VR = macro / portrait
85 1.4 = portrait

wat i describe...are the common usage for the said lense...
but u can use any lense for anything U like...
bcoz i use my 70-200 and 12-24 for model shooting..
i use my fishy for landscape...
105 for product / still life...

again...those are the guidelines...
U choose how U use UR lense...

D200 ISO performance is not as great as A700 and D300. And D200 is power hungry machine (A700 also not very good but D200 worse)

I'll suggest u either get A700 or D300 unless u want to concentrate ur budget on lenses.

Choose A700 for antishake and beercan 70-210 F4 while choose D300 for better ergonomics, faster fps and slightly better ISO performance. Liveview selection is up to u.

For lenses, if budget is not a problem, get those godlike lenses as suggested by others

This post has been edited by harrychoo: Mar 19 2008, 07:54 PM

first...
d200 is OLD!
second...A700 is juz plain eyesore!

cmos and ccd...
i dunno wor...but i know cmos is better in handling noise...
thats all..