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post Mar 18 2008, 01:31 PM, updated 18y ago

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Maybe can impose a certain limit of post to be eligible to take part in sales thread.

Why?
They dont contribute to the community.Why give them a chance to sell or buy in this forum.
They messing the price.Begging to the lowest price.
A waste to hosting resource with their pm and such.
To curb attempted con or other reason.

This is just a suggestion from me. blush.gif
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post Mar 18 2008, 01:33 PM

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agreed. other forums also restrict access to certain topics based on post count.
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post Mar 18 2008, 01:44 PM

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I don't think that would be a good idea. Coz many are looking towards to buy stuff here only.
Yes they don't contribute much in this community, but where else they can find a very good local online store beside lelong.com? icon_rolleyes.gif

Just my 2 cents
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post Mar 18 2008, 01:47 PM

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When you impose this then people will start spamming other subforum to increase their post count. Then everyone will start to complain about each other saying that they post zero value posts. Then every subforum will need to have minimum of a few post before they are allowed to post in that subforum. The cycle goes on and on. tongue.gif
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post Mar 18 2008, 01:47 PM

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and IMO, i felt some of the 0 post users + newly registered will buy stuff and said like items received, good like new, very good seller are those seller themselves...
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post Mar 18 2008, 01:48 PM

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well.people in here do post in lelong also..
But if they want to sales\buy..then contribute something la isnt it?
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post Mar 18 2008, 02:00 PM

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From my own experience, since i registered in LYN and until the end of 2006, my post was zero tongue.gif for the whole year i just lurk around the garage sales. But when time goes by, i slowly join some discussions and be a part of the community too laugh.gif
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post Mar 18 2008, 02:35 PM

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i hav to agree... these peoples dont contribute anything to this forum and use it for their own sales purposes...
isn't that being selfish? i just feel its not right...

that's just me ^^
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post Mar 18 2008, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Mar 18 2008, 01:31 PM)
Maybe can impose a certain limit of post to be eligible to take part in sales thread.

Why?
They dont contribute to the community.Why give them a chance to sell or buy in this forum.
They messing the price.Begging to the lowest price.
A waste to hosting resource with their pm and such.
To curb attempted con or other reason.

This is just a suggestion from me. blush.gif
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You talk as if 0 post count forummers are potential conman. Besides what's wrong with bargaining for lowest price? Ignore them if you dislike them.

If it would be implemented, i doubt their contribution of post would be of any value.
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post Mar 18 2008, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Mar 18 2008, 01:31 PM)
Maybe can impose a certain limit of post to be eligible to take part in sales thread.

Why?
They dont contribute to the community.Why give them a chance to sell or buy in this forum.
They messing the price.Begging to the lowest price.
A waste to hosting resource with their pm and such.
To curb attempted con or other reason.

This is just a suggestion from me. blush.gif
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You are encouraging more and more of these post:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry16217938
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry16219940

and this kind of topic
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=653796
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post Mar 18 2008, 03:33 PM

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yeap...Im correct and you correct to.
Its up to management to decide.

everything has good and cons.

If i start to ignore them,then mayve that volume would be 40% of the population?

Im not here to start a flame.just a mere suggestion..

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post Mar 18 2008, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Mar 18 2008, 03:33 PM)
yeap...Im correct and you correct to.
Its up to management to decide.

everything has good and cons.

If i start to ignore them,then mayve that volume would be 40% of the population?

Im not here to start a flame.just a mere suggestion..
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Haha, we all know it is just a suggestion and we also don't want to put flame on each other...

but if this rules applied, then other subforum will be affected and it will full of 0 value, or 1-liner post...
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post Mar 18 2008, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(tan_pang @ Mar 18 2008, 03:39 PM)
Haha, we all know it is just a suggestion and we also don't want to put flame on each other...

but if this rules applied, then other subforum will be affected and it will full of 0 value, or 1-liner post...
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well then..
without them,we still have 0 value or 1liner post doesnt it...except maybe the count is lower..
or maybe nothing will happen?Who knows?
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post Mar 18 2008, 04:12 PM

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We do not plan on any kind of restrictions, however post counts do count as a yardstick when dealing with a potential seller/buyer. If you were to choose between a 0 post seller and a senior member with 500 post for the same item, you would probably pick the senior member even if his item is slightly more expensive.

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post Mar 19 2008, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(se7en @ Mar 18 2008, 04:12 PM)
We do not plan on any kind of restrictions, however post counts do count as a yardstick when dealing with a potential seller/buyer. If you were to choose between a 0 post seller and a senior member with 500 post for the same item, you would probably pick the senior member even if his item is slightly more expensive.
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yes

then it comes to method of dealing

cod?or post..
so if newbie 0 post, go for cod


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post Mar 19 2008, 10:51 PM

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just check out the complain forum...
Got a number involving zero post people..biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by CV6149: Mar 19 2008, 10:52 PM
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post Mar 19 2008, 11:17 PM

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if really change.. our community will be massively spammed.. (who got post = who more reliable)
and the conman also can simply post and gain trust..
den end up will be a junk forum..

and doesn't mean senior member will not con (same situation as above)
for me, if wan a reliable trade, check every single detail wherever is possible..
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post Mar 20 2008, 09:58 AM

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alot of them will not post.
got fedup and surely left.but that is my opinian.
I faced this kind of situation before.register then realise it.so left and never return.
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post Mar 20 2008, 10:59 AM

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Just pratice to trade not like a mad cow. I doesn't agree because I don't want a well-informative thread/forum filled with junk post.
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post Mar 20 2008, 11:56 AM

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0 Post doesn't means they are conman.
1,000 Post doesn't means they are safe.
Even a safe trader can con if they are in need of money.

When buyer got conned. Blame themself for being stupid, greedy and don't use common sense. I've seen a lot in lowyat forum. Sorry if I offended anyone that got conned before but you are dumb.
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post Mar 24 2008, 01:38 PM

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i agree with TS
a lot of the zero post dont even KNOW THEIR PRODUCT..

the buy sell trade suppose to be a barter business
but its getting a lot of kid's and yes i mean 16 year old highschoolers doing business when they themself dont have the dough to backup any screwups..
just check the trade dispute forum especially on bulks etc..

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post Mar 24 2008, 02:32 PM

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If they wanna con, they can always spam to get minimal postcount to open. Just be careful during trade.
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post Mar 24 2008, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(Demon_Eyes_Kyo @ Mar 24 2008, 02:32 PM)
If they wanna con, they can always spam to get minimal postcount to open. Just be careful during trade.
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yeah bro but look at the bulk disputes
a lot of young ppl
and always they blame the middle man etc.

try imagine if i was the CEO of BAT.. and if government raises the tax..
am i suppose to apologize to the shareholders saying government fault.. if thats not a valid excuse neither is this

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 24 2008, 03:02 PM)
yeah bro but look at the bulk disputes
a lot of young ppl
and always they blame the middle man etc.

try imagine if i was the CEO of BAT.. and if government raises the tax..
am i suppose to apologize to the shareholders saying government fault.. if thats not a valid excuse neither is this
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I Agree with your part where a lot of problematic bulks are from young sellers.
And bout the part where they blame the middle man, you might think they're just finding excuses to clear themselves off but that is what happened.
Anyway, whose fault it is, they're the seller, they have to bear full responsibility.
It's lucky that many of them actually stood out to face the reality and try to solve their problems.
It might take some time, but it's better than con.

Btw, ur example of BAT doesn't quite make sense to me... wink.gif

Anyway, i really hate bulkers and sellers who knows nuts bout what they're selling.

About the minimal post count suggestion, i honestly think it's not going to make any difference.
It's not the matter of contribution or not, but as many had pointed, these people who intends to gain the repo will just spam. I happen to know one of them who did that and is now in deep shit, though he's trying to resolve his matters.

If you really want safer trading, do it like lelong, only verified IC members.
But again, LYN is not a trading website like lelong, so it's not going to happen.
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QUOTE(hiansitt @ Mar 19 2008, 11:17 PM)
if really change.. our community will be massively spammed.. (who got post = who more reliable)
and the conman also can simply post and gain trust..
den end up will be a junk forum..

and doesn't mean senior member will not con (same situation as above)
for me, if wan a reliable trade, check every single detail wherever is possible..
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yes. agree...

0 post = does not mean he is a con man...
> 0 posts = doesn not mean he is not a con man...

Like me, potential con man also... laugh.gif laugh.gif

But honestly, restrict post is not a good idea, i think probably end up with other sub-forum will become a place to spam smile.gif

Just my own opinion anyway.... blush.gif


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post Mar 24 2008, 06:21 PM

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Very true. This will encourage ppl to spam with one liners everywhere just to reach the quota to post in the sales threads. I guess the only thing we can do is to use our common sense when dealing with anyone.
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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 24 2008, 01:38 PM)
i agree with TS
a lot of the zero post dont even KNOW THEIR PRODUCT..

the buy sell trade suppose to be a barter business
but its getting a lot of kid's and yes i mean 16 year old highschoolers doing business when they themself dont have the dough to backup any screwups..
just check the trade dispute forum especially on bulks etc..
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those cases is 'pro' conman la you think everyday the middle man cheat people ah lol
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post Mar 24 2008, 10:49 PM

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like i said...there is a good possibilities that newly created acc people will get fedup and just left..instead of blindly posting to reach the quote.


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post Mar 25 2008, 10:05 AM

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Some of them are peopl who are interested in the said item after viewing the thread as a guest and would like to have further discussions and/or negotiations with the seller with regard to the said item.

I for one, am not for the ban of 0 post members in Trade Zone.
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post Mar 25 2008, 10:06 AM

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In that case shall we remove the trade zone than since at first; there's never had been any to start off with.

If you have tradezone, there's bound to be ppl who just lurks around there doing there trade.
Or when someone google something for sale, he might just register looking for that particular item and not to hang around LYN discussing. Are we going to penalise them?!
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Smart sellers will contribute as much as they can to gain trust
Meanwhile, the smart buyers can trace their posts or check their successful trade list


 

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