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cherroy
post Mar 26 2008, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(sode-no-shirayuki @ Mar 26 2008, 03:02 PM)
If i'm working as a permanent staff in company A, yet i'm also a partner in company B, which tax form should i fill in?

And in terms of partnership, all profits gain from it will not be taxable? How about profit sharing? Do i add those figure into personal income tax?
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In simple term, all profit and income are taxable, unless stated otherwise like capital appreciation is tax exmpted, FD interest income, bond interest payment etc.
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post Mar 27 2008, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(SMILE @ Mar 27 2008, 02:33 PM)
Hi experts out there, if you own a website that you charge ppl when they advertise at your website then this kind of income taxable mar? Let's said for example website like cari or lowyat. Any help? 10s.
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All income are taxable unless stated otherwise. But if your total annual income doesn't exceed the taxable income then no tax, but still it is treated as your taxable income, just fall short of tax requirement.
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post Mar 27 2008, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(SMILE @ Mar 27 2008, 04:13 PM)
ic, how much is "doesn't exceed the taxable income"?

what's the tax different if the web owned by me OR owned by a company i registered(and i pay portion of profit to patner)? 10s Cherroy, 10s.
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Normal sole proprietorship or partnership company, all income/profit are belonged to individual one.

But for Sdn. Bhd case then it is different, sdn. bhd. income is company income, not related to individual. There is the distinct difference.

So if the website owned by you, all the profit made under your sole-proprietorship company or partnership company are classified as your income.

But for a sdn bhd one, all profit made is charged under corporate tax level and profit belonged to the company not individual. Unless company declare it as dividend to pay you as a shareholders then only you will be getting the money made.

I am not profession in tax or company tax system, please bare with me if anything wrong about the information.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Mar 27 2008, 04:47 PM
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post Apr 3 2008, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(steve883 @ Apr 3 2008, 09:14 PM)
I've submitted a question under separate post related to tax on MLM income but didn't get much useful reply. Now I've seen this tread with all the tax experts and hope someone will help me.

Could someone enlighten me about tax submission for income derived from direct selling. Is it under business or individual? What are the deductibles? Thanks
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I am not tax expert nor profession in it, but I think it should under individual taxable income.

Only you form a company to do the direct selling then it is under company. If it is individual then it belonged to individual. As simple as that.
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post Apr 4 2008, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(steve883 @ Apr 3 2008, 09:52 PM)
Thanks for the quick reply. If under individual, could I deduct for fuel, makan, etc from the income derived since MLM do a lot of traveling, etc
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No, if it is under individual income, then no, as you have personal tax relief already.
But if you form company to do it then yes, gross profit (after deducted expenses) is taxable.
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post Apr 4 2008, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Apr 4 2008, 11:25 AM)
Here's a reply I got from LHDN this year (2008), but it did not mention on forex.  hmm.gif
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Capital gain is tax exempted. So if you gain on forex by investment then it is considered capital gain.


QUOTE(kkh @ Apr 4 2008, 11:48 AM)
How about part-time incomes that are received in cheques? A portion of the incomes are for accommodation, meal allowance, and transportation apart from the main fee. Are they taxable since the allowances are received in a lump sum together?
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All income are considered taxable unless stated otherwise or one can prove the allowances are essential to carry out your job then only can be waived.
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post Apr 4 2008, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(hitokiri_maniac @ Apr 4 2008, 04:49 PM)
so if a person wiretransfer 1 million usd profit from forex trading  into malaysia account bank.. he will not be tax for that??.. wow... seriously??i thought tax ppl want a slice of pie of it also... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Inland revenue board will query why the person wire-transfer you in the first place. Not as simple as that.

For capital gain, you need to keep properly your transaction documentation, slips, contract noted or any other documentation proof that show you are actually gain money through capital appreciation.
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post Apr 5 2008, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(yewkhuay @ Apr 4 2008, 09:05 PM)
may i ask, if company provide free parking lot for u to come to work by renting a parking lot from a hotel, should the company put the amount spent (may be 1200/yr) in employee EA form as part of their income n thus employee hav to pay tax for tht 1200/yr amount?
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This fall into the category of Benefit in Kind which is taxable also. Even company provides a driver or car for you, it is considered as Benefit in Kind also.
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post Apr 29 2008, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(jackie @ Apr 29 2008, 09:46 PM)
Hi. I got this EPF Deduction from e-mail (Blue text below). May I know how this work. As we could see the EPF + Life Insurance is total of RM6000 only. My EPF is higher than this amount. Thank you.

Contributions to the employees Provident Fund (EPF) by employers are tax-exempt for the employees.

To reduce your taxable income , ask your employer to reduce your EPF monthly salary but increase your EPF contributions by the same amount.

Tax Deduction :
    The deductible amount from your taxable income is dependent on the arrangement between you and your employer.

For Mr A : Mr A agrees to takle monthly pay cut of RM 1000 for an equivalent increase in his EPF contributions by his employer.At the end of the year , he receives an additional RM 12000 in his pension fund but his taxable income is reduced by the same amount.

The tax saving that he makes is RM 2880 ( RM12000@24%)

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You can't exceed the limit amount set (Rm6000) for the tax relief.

What the blue colour statement, yes, contribution of EPF is tax exempted.

Eg. When you are earning 3K/month, you are actually earning 3K + employer's EPF contribution. <-- that's what your blue colour statement meant tax exempted.

But in your taxable income you reported is 3k only. So when you pension time, you withdraw the EPF money (employee's contribution part) then you are withdrawing your previous earning which is tax exempted.

Unless you are nearing pension and eligible for the EPF withdrawal, for normal people, it takes 10, 20 or more years before they can see the benefit of the tax exemption.
I do think it is a loop holes. But wait, if not mistaken EPF got restriction how much EPF (in term of % of your salary) can be contributed.
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Aug 20 2018, 02:38 PM)
Hope friends here can help me.

Thinking of disposing some of my foreign shares but worry about having to pay tax on them.

Saw in this thread ...

ALL revenue income derived from a source within Malaysia are subject to tax unless specifically exempted. Foreign source income remitted into Malaysia are exempted from tax.

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If I read that correctly, selling my foreign shares is then non taxable, right? Shares bought more than 6 years ago.

BB

Is that rule still valid today as that thread was in 2007?

Thanks.
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Profit from investment is a form capital gain.
And capital gain in Malaysia is tax exempted, so can disregard whether it is treated as foreign derived or not. Yes, the above rules still apply until today.

Whether the "foreign" share/country has witholding tax on the shares gain or not, then it is another matter. As there are foreign shares dividend are subjected to witholding tax for non-resident investors.

Conclusion :
For Malaysia part - tax exempted.
For foreign country - check with your broker/respective countries regulation.
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post Aug 20 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Aug 20 2018, 04:02 PM)
Noted and thanks.

On withholding tax, I am already being taxed there for the dividends. If I claim for the dividend withholding taxes, will these dividends taxes be taxable for me in Msia (assuming the 2 countries have the tax agreement)? Sorry, dumb weird question.
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Ya, weird question, laugh.gif as most witholding taxes are not entitled for claim, subjected to respective countries ruling (this involves complicated story already as every country tax rules are different)

To answer above question, should be no, from Malaysia existing taxes regulation.

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QUOTE(jonoave @ Aug 20 2018, 04:49 PM)
Sorry I hope it's ok for me to tumpang along this question tered.

I've living overseas for a while now,  and paying tax in the foreign country instead of Malaysia.
However I have some investment in the form of unit trusts in Malaysia.

I'm wondering that when I sell off those UT, will I need to declare them for taxation in Malaysia, or is that covered under withholding tax already

Furthermore, in the country I'm in now I found that there is a 30% tax on gains from shares and UT etc.
And in the tax form they do ask whether I possess any investment overseas etc.

Thanks in advance!
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For Malaysia investment side (since the onset of single tier dividend), any income or dividend/distribution that need to have witholding tax, the payor will witheld those amount before distribute to you, so what you get is net off already.
Same with bank interest, if there is need to have witholding tax on the interest, bank will witheld those amount in the first place, before giving to you.

For capital gain on Malaysia investment, Malaysia doesn't practice capital gain tax whether it is resident or non-resident, except RPGT.
So, you need to look at your country tax regulation, whether they have tax on capital gain on foreign investment or not, or any exemption on double tax treaty etc.
If you are A country tax resident, then you follow A tax regulation.



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post Dec 31 2018, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(jge @ Dec 31 2018, 04:57 PM)
Hi, I do not know if I am in the correct thread but I have some tax questions regarding a sole proprietor business.

I have a sole proprietor business. I am a private tutor. I teach students at my place & I also go to some students' houses to teach. I have registered my business in April this year.

My questions :

1. I did not keep the petrol receipts. Only recently I realized that I need those receipts for tax submission.  tongue.gif  I only started keeping the receipts from October onwards. But I have a book where I list down my petrol expenses. Could I still use this list to do my accounts? Can I fully claim it?

2. Can I fully/partially claim water & electricity bills since I am teaching in my house?

3. Do I really need to maintain a separate bank account for my business? Currently, all my commission is paid into my personal bank account.

Would appreciate it if any experts could help me out on these. Thank you in advance!  smile.gif smile.gif
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1) no receipt then no, as simple as that.
But I do not think petrol expense is entitled for tax deduction for tuition business.

2) I do not think so. (same with 1 above). Unless you have a premise that solely run for tuition that incur electricity bill, then yes, clear cut.
If using home one, it is difficult to prove/show those expenses are for tuition.

Generally, only expenses that are needed to run the business is tax deductible.
You can't simply take in personal expenses.

3) It is preferred to keep it separate, as it is more clear cut and do not mess up.

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post Jan 1 2019, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(jge @ Dec 31 2018, 05:40 PM)
Thanks for the answers. However, can I know why petrol expense is not entitled for tax deduction since I need to travel to my students' houses to teach them tuition? Isn't it an expense incur to run the business?
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Ask back your own question, how would you separate the petrol that used for tuition and personal use?
Use separate petrol tank? biggrin.gif

Unless you have a car registered under the business name (eg. registered under the name of ABC tuition centre), that use to fetch student or travel for tuition purposes, then those expenses may be tax deductible under business expenses.

Car that registered under personal name, generally and strictly speaking expenses related to the car are not business tax deductible.


 

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