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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Drivers' Forum! with**V11**, third official TT photo upload ^_^

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post Mar 19 2008, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Cloudx @ Mar 19 2008, 11:32 AM)
Guys.. dropping by to ask... is the old version of saga still available in the market?
Bcoz i browse proton's website they still hv this car in their catalog.. for 28k.
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the price increase already? last time only 27k woh. I think still got stock as u can see most of the Proton Edar or Eon they still have that model. Now u buy no need wait thumbup.gif
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post Mar 19 2008, 11:59 AM

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ya no longer in production already so wat u see is wat is left.. after that no more already... thats the end of the story after 20 years in production... doh.gif
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post Mar 19 2008, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Gilbert5107 @ Mar 19 2008, 12:07 PM)
the price i think is RM27,999 so is RM28k
stop mitsu production? CAMPRO CPS edi.....? engine look nice but dunno got durability anot  hmm.gif
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the price not RM26,999 meh?
they din use mitsu engine already.. now all the engine are replace with camXpro. except 1.1,1.2 and 2.0 engine..
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post Mar 19 2008, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(allenyip @ Mar 19 2008, 03:01 PM)
how bout compare tis 1?

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this 1 the hood lock dunno functioning or not 1. wink.gif or just for deco purposes
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post Mar 19 2008, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(PinkyWhite @ Mar 19 2008, 08:56 PM)
i was shock when i saw the 1st picture  sweat.gif  thought its my car  doh.gif  then see carefully , 2nd and 3rd pic...lolz ..not same le..different bumper  tongue.gif not my car..keke

btw..nice also la...
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ur car bumper got lips also?ur car not using stock bumper?

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post Mar 20 2008, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(camel90 @ Mar 20 2008, 10:53 AM)
morning sifooo's.

need to ask the price of these things

1.  rubber thingy at door frame. how much for both front doors? how about both rear doors?

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2. rubber thingy at rear bonnet frame. how much?

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the car model is proton saga 1.3s 1986  doh.gif  so, those owners of old saaga would probably change these already maybe knew the price.

and yeah, sorry IF my term of those things is not right. me car noob only.  icon_rolleyes.gif

lastly, nice job done to ur car bro singchaii. how much those cost u?
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i think is time for u to change the whole set of rubber.. if u replace a part only later another part will eventually spoil also... if u change whole part it would be better and u wont having problem like water leaking when raining.. last time i ride on my fren saga his car was well taken care of but the water is dripping in when raining heavily. better water resistance and also better sound proofing.. but price i dunno hehehe biggrin.gif
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post Mar 21 2008, 01:30 PM

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is the basic oil actually since is 20W-50 if engine is well maintain actually u can consider for 15W-40 or 10W-40. That 1 ur FC ll be better and pick up also better


Added on March 21, 2008, 1:32 pm
QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 21 2008, 01:00 PM)
dun think too much la. haha, we should satisfied what we have now. Now young driving 1.3, who know later you drive 3.1cc?
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wan meh 3.1cc how to move woh.. lol brows.gif

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post Mar 21 2008, 01:34 PM

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Guys when i drove back just now i was tail gate by this thing..... a lorry was in front of me and i cant give way to him until he lorry give way to me biggrin.gif

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i press the shutter when the car was at my blind spot.. but when the pic is capture the car already moving ahead... within 3 sec its GONE!
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post Mar 22 2008, 08:43 AM

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morning guys remember to take more pic when u guys TT k? enjoy ur gathering smile.gif


Added on March 22, 2008, 8:46 amby the way i had break another record RM0.129 on highway.. average 110 top speed 130 (only a few sec as i wan to capture another pic but the GTR cant be found anymore cry.gif)

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post Mar 23 2008, 08:10 PM

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nice work tt i saw the update already...
ah gil incident? or accident? wat happen?


Added on March 23, 2008, 8:12 pm
QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Mar 23 2008, 01:43 PM)
why my head so big??.doh.gif  doh.gif
cemc member ahh??... dunno who ler....  unsure.gif
no idea... but as far as i remember quite expensive... coz they engrave the word WAC (or was it WISE) on the heatshield... and the heatshield was claimed to use laser cutting for perfect cutting... sweat.gif
no wonder ler.... so i guess other cars should average 5kmh only lah...  laugh.gif
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ya hor... i also didnt notice it... c11 hood...  doh.gif  owner sakit hati like sial now...  doh.gif
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big close up for u rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Mar 24 2008, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 24 2008, 01:23 AM)
wah seh.. Wonder that girl willing to help me change number plate or not...  wub.gif  wub.gif  wub.gif
Top ten spammers....

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walao i still on the list meh... not bad for pinkywhite le...
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post Mar 24 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 24 2008, 01:39 AM)
Agree.. hahaha....

This really surprise me.

Saga B-Line = 90.9bhp
Vios S = 101.9
City (i-dsi) = 79.5
Myvi 1.3 ZHS = 89.4

New saga should be damn powerful then. But why, it underpower? Our saga only 83bhp ler.

http://www.maxpowerauto.com/ecatalog/index...st&prod_id=1311

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becos the of torque not really into bhp. bhp determine top speed u may need to research on torque. CamXpro engine torque peak at high rpm then drop like no tomolo after peak so ppl say its underpower..
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post Mar 24 2008, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 23 2008, 11:28 PM)
What gear using? 3rd and 2nd gear? After at 3rd gear, then down shift to 2nd gear, the sound will terrible? While I try from 3rd gear to 2nd gear, the sound going to explode and the car doesn't goes slower.. >_<
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sure 1 la ur engine speed not same with the gear speed ma.. sure sound terrible lol.. dun press to much gas... when u learn how rev match then can do better liao.. lol
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QUOTE(CerealKiller @ Mar 24 2008, 12:06 AM)
What is the purpose hitting the accelerator a bit while pressing the brake pedal?.. Wanna know...
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to make sure ur car have enough power after cornering... normally u feel after cornering ur car power come late rite? that's y they rev the car to make sure they can get the power on the exit of a corner.. normal drive no need do tat la too dangerous already..
another thing happen when u at slope and u step on brake u also can do the same if u dun 1 to pull e brake and u cant estimate the release accelerator and clutch properly. blush.gif
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post Mar 24 2008, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 24 2008, 12:58 AM)
I sponsor? Then forget what I suggested just now. =P

Because I'm doing bulk among my friend as well.. So if you guy want, maybe we can combine together and maybe get even cheaper...
Sendiri sponsor.. Haha... You awesome la.. raining with botak tire also can play zig zag... respect.  notworthy.gif


Added on March 24, 2008, 12:58 am
my phone tak ada while I'm digi. haha.
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yellow man spotted.. nvm i m digi subcriber also lol
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Mar 24 2008, 01:06 AM)
mahalnya... buy capalang china brand one enough lor... the place i working part time also use capalang china brand saja... but sound quality cacat abit la...  laugh.gif

botak = slick tyre mah...  icon_idea.gif
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slick tyre notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif full traction on dry road no traction at wet road... notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Mar 24 2008, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 24 2008, 03:23 PM)
Mean that CAI, useless de ar?  doh.gif  doh.gif

And, If when we driving at highway, then got plastic bag or newspaper block the mouth, will it able to get air as well? later no air being suck because was blocked...
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no air intake ur engine will miss and eventually die... sweat.gif


Added on March 24, 2008, 4:45 pm
QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Mar 24 2008, 04:37 PM)
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a note of advice:
for those connecting cai hose directly to ur oem airbox, try not to face the inlet of ur cai hose towards rushing air... rushing air pressure coming in from outside is so great that it can cancel off the vacuum pressure inside ur intake manifold, causing it to lose power at high rpm... NA engine should be allowed to breathe normally...
for those using open-pod filter and cai hose facing ur filter, its best to face ur cai hose inlet against rushing air... coz ur intake pressure isnt sucking cold air in... u need momentum to keep rushing air fed to ur air filter.... for any queries, feel free to PM me....
the above statements (in both cases) totally go against basic fluid dynamics

the only time that the air pressure can cancel out the vacuum is when there is a turbo
and if just driving fast could force so much air into the manifold, then turbos would be designed to cut off after a certain speed
not to mention having air forced into the cylinder rather than having to suck it in would actually be a good thing as the engine does less work to suck in air
this will increase the efficiency of the engine / free up more power to be transfered to the wheels

secondly, having CAI ducts just hanging out next to an open pod will have little or no effect on it sucking in cold air
when driving at higher speeds, the air coming out of the duct will mix with the surrounding hot air as soon as it leaves the duct
the result will (at best) be air that is only slightly cooler than engine bay temperatures
there is no such thing as the air having enough momentum to jump from the duct into the filter
another problem would be that open pods suck from 360degrees
therefore unless there are ducts emptying out ALL AROUND the filter, the majority of the air being sucked into the filter will be air at engine bay temperature

this coupled with the fact that by the time the air from the duct is more or less warmed up by the time it reaches the filter, the nett intake air temperature of the filter is practically engine bay temperature once again
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif shifoo has spoken again... dude u back already?


Added on March 24, 2008, 4:46 pm
QUOTE(eXpert @ Mar 24 2008, 04:39 PM)
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i already try to brake and hit the accelerator but cannot la.. my feet cannot do it.. if i wanna do like that i need to adjust my my bontot.. i need to tune my feet first i think
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u bawa sambil baring is it? try at ur home la toe at brake heel at acc.


Added on March 24, 2008, 4:47 pm
QUOTE(eXpert @ Mar 24 2008, 04:44 PM)
owh..  blush.gif
lupakanla aper yg saya post tuh..
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dude u better use english or proper malay i also dunno wat u post earlier..


Added on March 24, 2008, 4:51 pm
QUOTE(neosaint99 @ Mar 24 2008, 04:40 PM)
erm,...i was using a figure of speech
i was asking wat your entire post meant
totally do not understand what you are trying to say...except for that last part about the speaker n stuff
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Added on March 24, 2008, 4:42 pm

not too sure about power coming late and all that, but usually front wheel cars accelerate into the corner to maintain grip
rear wheel drive cars decelerate into corners

if u notice a rear wheel drive car accelerate, the front lifts slightly, thus reducing traction on the front wheels, which are used very much for steering around corners
decelerating will have the oposite effect,...the front will go down thus putting more pressure on the front wheels thus improving grip of the steering wheels

it works the oposite way for front wheel drive cars

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not into corner ma it exiting corner.. into corner u wan full speed also can (if u can handle ur car) but during cornering ur car speed will drop due to centripedal force. So if the corner is tight then u need more power to push up ur car again that's y ppl toe-and-heel when cornering but that defy the rules of cant change gear during cornering.. any1 can explain better?

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post Mar 24 2008, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(singchaii @ Mar 24 2008, 05:34 PM)
Yes.. I going to shift place as well.. Thinking that place not safe. Gonna to shift in the middle of the centre grill. hehe.
If the water at the mouth level, the whole engine being jam as well..  doh.gif  doh.gif
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is time for EFI if kena air lol.. remember take 1.5 dun take 1.3 lol
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post Mar 25 2008, 08:41 AM

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wei u guys need meh.. install a tweeter only woh... y not just stick on the board.. some tweeter if badly tune or bad input they will spoil very easily woh.. then wan change time how?
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post Mar 25 2008, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(wkho555 @ Mar 25 2008, 08:48 AM)
thats a tweeter holder. tweeter spoil can change geh
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lol u see that guy DIY job... wan change not so easy woh..

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