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 AMDŽ Socket-AM2/AM2+ Overclocking thread (V7), Strong Will of AMD

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post Mar 16 2008, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Mar 16 2008, 04:57 PM)
not so sure about that. its actually based on my experience. ocing my proc to 2.4ghz with stock vcore resulting same temp with stock speed @ 2.0ghz.
with CnQ disable of course.
maybe the 0.4ghz increament not giving much temp increament...
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Simple law of physics.....the power consumed by your proc will be released as heat

cpu power consumption = TDP X (overclocked speed/stock speed) X (overclocked vcore/stock vcore)^2

note that for vcore its squared...so the effect is much more powerful

ok.....so assuming you overclocked your proc from 2.0ghz to 2.4ghz(TDP=65W)

overclocked power consumption = 65 X (2400/2000) X (1.25/1.25)^2

= 78W

Which isnt that much of an increase, proly u'll notice your temps rise by 2 or 3 degrees depending on your cooler.

now.....say you have a nice windsor 3800+ F3 and oc to 3.0ghz with stock volts

overclocked power consumption = 65 X (3000/2000) X (1.25/1.25)^2
= 97.5W

but if you have a brisbane 4000+ and oc to 3.0ghz with 1.4v instead

overclocked power consumption = 65 X (3000/2100) X (1.4/1.25)^2
= 116.5W

As shown, raising vcore has a much larger impact on power consumption(hence heat released) than raising clockspeed. Hope my long winded explanation answers all doubts rclxms.gif
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post Mar 26 2008, 08:37 AM

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My final contribution to AMD overclocking smile.gif. bro pws plz updated my score yea. thnx

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Mar 26 2008, 10:37 AM)
When rejoining the brightness side?  tongue.gif
Deneb ar?Or not joining liao?  cry.gif
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Probably never.....unless see big improvement from AMD. 3 years be their fan and evytime kena ffk only sad.gif

1st time....when they totally cut off s939, that time I had just bought my X2 3800+ 4+ months ago sad.gif
2nd time....after so long still suck so bad compared to c2d (EDIT: despite so many broken promises)

Am having fun with my pentium now. Can reach 3.6 but gonna need water to keep it cool sweat.gif

QUOTE(rainzai @ Mar 25 2008, 01:37 AM)
here some details ,hope it might helpful in solving the problems
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Hehe my ex proc spotted. Try to break my score of 3012mhz bro thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 27 2008, 11:29 AM)
bro, u can't really say amd ffk u lah... what if u were an intel fans during k7/k8 era where amd pwned intel? u will say intel ffk'ed u back then?  laugh.gif

it's human nature that we always go for d best that we can afford, but some ppl would prefer d one they like instead of d best.  smile.gif
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No i wont really. My main frustration was the s939 to AM2 socket change. After just 4 months a high-end system became obsolete sweat.gif

Currently is just pwnage frm intel. Considering my upgrade just cost me RM130, I tink its still reasonable brows.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Mar 27 2008, 12:53 PM)
was x2 3600+ a high end system 4 months back bro?  shocking.gif
have fun w/ d figures then...  wink.gif
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I dont tink you get my point bro. When i bought my old rig 2 years + back, s939 was looking good and looked like it still had future, but then AMD totally abandoned the platform when they switched to AM2, leaving me with few upgrade options.

QUOTE(digswell @ Mar 27 2008, 12:56 PM)
Always intel follow amd step....

5)bout C&Q and HT (i think u know the question)

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Agreed....i still prefer AMD C n Q. Intels speedstep voltage cant really be customized much, unlike my C n Q setup with crystalcpuID lastime. That doesnt work with intel proc. Haih....wonder how my electric bill will look like this month sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Mar 29 2008, 06:20 AM)
an off topic message here,

anyone still selling their Windsor F3 3800+ in garage sale?
Better let go fast as i will launch F3 V3 very soon  notworthy.gif
anything regarding to F3 V3 can ask me tru pm, thanks  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Now u tell......2 weeks after i join darkside sweat.gif
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QUOTE(digswell @ Mar 30 2008, 11:48 AM)
always bright side got good thing  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Good thing come too late . Hmm but maybe can get it for my backup rig. Abit NF M2-s got no voltage controls so this proc will be perfect brows.gif
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As you loosen the timing your memory access latency will increase, thus negating the effect of increasing the memory clockspeed. So yes, probably running it at 1066mhz with loose timing is similar to running it at 800 with tight timing. You can check out the memory oc-ing thread in the guides forum for more info smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2008, 08:29 PM

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Any reports in from the new F3s??
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try running small fft test bro, see wether its the prcessor or the ram. From my experience 1.5v is enuff for 2.97ghz.
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QUOTE(rainzai @ Apr 9 2008, 03:26 PM)
vdimm 2.25 now notworthy.gif
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Quite high. I used to increase the volts high on my mem lastime too, but then I realized that sometimes it actually makes the system unstable. Hmm......maybe try increase vcore abit too. But lastime i was fully stable at 3.0ghz with 1.52V smile.gif
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Apr 10 2008, 12:05 AM)
orthos + YM chatting + net surfing + listening song at the same time is a bad idea  wink.gif
try to do it in a clean environment
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hmm.....is it that the other applications might cause orthos to have an abnormal error not related to oc-ing?

or

does heavy multi-tasking increase the chance of an error occuring?

If its number 2 then i say its a sign of instability.....and the oc needs to be re-tweaked, because there are often real-life situations that i myself do stuff like that, like encoding video+bt+IM+surfing all at the same time. Is my train of thought correct, or can anyone correct me if i'm wrong smile.gif
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Apr 10 2008, 08:40 AM)
when u passed certain speed, even with adding Vcore wont help u to achieve stability at higher speed. this is depends on ur luck.
if ur proc is good and manage to stable at 3.6ghz max, further adding on vcore wont help u to achieve higher clockspeed....
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He could be reaching the limits of his current cooling method as well.
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QUOTE(muh_is @ Apr 10 2008, 06:00 PM)
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I think reached my limit edi.. can't go any further even at 1.72 vcore  shakehead.gif with ram400 5-5-5-15 at 2.05
temp maintain at 45+ during boot, but can't pass the windows load.
this one can't go stable orthos more than 10 minutes.. i dun think it's my ram, cause my ram can go higher than this and stable +8hours  sweat.gif
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1.7v is very high bro, even with tuniq tower......

Then again.....im pushing the same limits with my current proc too sweat.gif
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QUOTE(muh_is @ Apr 10 2008, 07:51 PM)
well, i did tried at 1.5,1.53,1.56,1.58,1.60,1.62,1.64, till 1.7..
and cannot boot.. that's why i think i'm at the limit.. maybe my mobo sweat.gif 3.33 can't even stable more then few minutes orthos at 1.56.. load temp is bout 45-50..

what's the highest u got? biggrin.gif
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Limit of your cooling also very likely smile.gif. Lol.....lastime I had brisbane 3600+ which did 3.1ghz at 1.6v sweat.gif

now joined darkside, maximum reached 3.62ghz on 1.68v tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fuzore @ Apr 12 2008, 09:01 AM)
Owhhh...man last night my pc suddenly shutdown buy it self  cry.gif  i have no idea what happened after that i pull the plug and left it about a minute or two then i turn it on again let it run without running any programe but nothing happened  rclxub.gif  only that my fan led did blink a few times....  rclxub.gif  doh.gif
any idea why...
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You let it ru without running any program? I dont get that part rclxub.gif I think probably its the mobo, usually when psu KO there wont be any reaction
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QUOTE(alive88 @ Apr 12 2008, 01:42 PM)
owh..its rainingzero's birhtda..haha..get urself a new hardware for ur birthday..
11.84v for 12x rail is good enough..another most important thing u need to alert is that the 11.84x doesnt flactuates a lot..as if when u stress wit orthos, it wont fall untill 11.50 or sumthing like that.if its over than 12v also is not good..overvoltage wl kill ur hradware like mosfet and cpctor..

and mine you, sometimes the rail voltage reading also depends on the mobo itself..
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I agree with you bro. I have read somewhere b4 that the actual value of the rail is safe between +/-5% of the actual value (11.4V-12.6V). However, the actual drop in voltage when going from idle to under load is more important, and is best if its 0.05v or less.
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QUOTE(redscorpion @ Apr 14 2008, 07:42 PM)
guys need some opinion here.any information about MSI K9A2 CF?good tak for overclocking?thanks in advance smile.gif
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Dodgy integrated sound from personal and experience of 2 frens(all 3 of us experienced problem where sound comes out only on 1 speaker, 2 with MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, 1 uknown). Quite slow RMA also, but on the other hand, quite understanding. They repaired my mobo eventhough it had a scratch thumbup.gif

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Wow.....very very high bro. Although I think mobos can now support it, it is still better to keep the HT at around 1000 for guaranteed stability. Moreover the HT speed doesnt really impact performance either. In your cpu tweaking page in the bios, there should be an aoption to change the htt link. The options available range from 1X-5X smile.gif
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Apr 20 2008, 01:27 AM)
Please use blend test.  smile.gif
Thanks

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Eh......didnt know blend test was 1 of the requirements?? Sienz la....lastime i tested my sempron with small fft only coz i was targetting cpu stability sad.gif

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