WEEE      Just got my X2 5000+ Be~ Wah Shawty...ur mom uses Crucial Ballistix DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz 4GB Kit?!   that 1 u have to wait for the other sifus to appear (-pws-, digswell...and a few others)..Btw How do i actually oc my BE proc @_@"

say, how much of MHz (Proc) can be increase if u lower the multi?

if both GHz is the same better to stay with higher multi × lower htt, rite?

plus no other settings than the multi & vcore need to tweak

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Added on March 15, 2008, 10:06 pm

ur ta780g didn't got any mem chip for the on-board graphic rite?

za_az, ur clockspeed and ram speed/timings also slower than me but why my SP 1M lose to u also? i must be doing something very wrong here.

added, here is my reference which has already been added to the DB.

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Added on March 16, 2008, 11:06 amadded again : pls dont tell me i lose coz u got cooler

Make me wonder oso...

How bout ur trfc & MAL? Could it be due to that
Dun really understand Care to elaborate

how does half multiplier affect? in the end, the clock speed still same right?

my trfc is 75 and my mal is 8. how about urs?

( my SP1M still slowest in the whole thread )

Err, mine is 195 and 10 Maybe its what bro ah_khoo mention that causing it

then how to see the real speed for ram? u mean instead of

* 9.5 x 300 = 2850, 2850/3=950

i get

* 9 x 300 = 2700, 2700/3=900 only?

Originally Posted by Wildstyle
(DRAM frequency) X (RAM divider) = CPU frequency

Dividers are all whole numbers, so if you use a half multiplier your memory speed is calculated by using the next highest whole number.

An example...

200X10 = 200/10 (divider) = 200MHz

200x10.5 = 2100/11 (next highest divider) = 190MHz (effective memory frequency.)

Now running at 3014Mhz,idle around 58-60,load around 60-70 :S..Ok ar?...Have to use air con to cool it down @_@"

jz hot only...Hmm, i wonder is it due to my casing @_@~ + so confusing..which temp to see? CPU or core 1,core 2?

oooh yeah!...The beast >_>"Unleashed already mah...damn @_@...but now my casing has a huge 25cm fan mah

got big fan, but if ur overall airflow messed, then it may not help..to find out further about good airflow for ur casing, can discuss at casing and modifications thread...

There is one question I wanted to ask but rather than creating new topic for a simple tempreture question.Hope you all won't mind I ask here.

What is the tempreture for this 3 processor stock cooler when idle without any overclock ?

Athlon 64 X2  4000+ 2.0 Ghz
Athlon 64 X2  6000+ 3.0 Ghz
AMD Phenom 9100e 1.8 Ghz

Thank you

i tot he asked about the temperature??

oit..tido ke?? he is asking about the temp...

from my experience:
Athlon 64 X2  4000+ 2.1 Ghz = 30-35'c
Athlon 64 X2  6000+ 3.0 Ghz = 40-45'c or hotter
AMD Phenom 9100e 1.8 Ghz never tried 

not necessarily means like that lor...
high clock + stock Vcore = cool
high clock + high Vcore = hot
High clock + high Vcore + Stock cooler = Damn hot 

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Added on March 16, 2008, 4:44 pm
of course 4000+ is cooler since its use lower vcore and 65nm SOL process somemore compared to 6000+ which is 90nm proc.
and also it uses 130++watt (forgot exact wattage)...
which is most of other brisbane or windsor proc only using either 60watt or 89watt...

not so sure about that. its actually based on my experience. ocing my proc to 2.4ghz with stock vcore resulting same temp with stock speed @ 2.0ghz.
with CnQ disable of course.
maybe the 0.4ghz increament not giving much temp increament...

Thank you for the fast replys .You all really fast 
Sorry I didn't explain more details.

Stock cooler
Original stock thermal grease
No overclock
Stock core speed  'example: 4000+ 2.1Ghz
Stock Vcore          '1.26 for 4000+
Cool'n'Quiet enable
Good cable management
Only one 12cm casing fan

The reason , i am asking because I plan to buy one of them.I am worry if high temp will reduce the processor life span.

For 2 cores
Athlon 64 X2  4000+ 2.1 Ghz
Athlon 64 X2  6000+ 3.0 Ghz

For 4 cores
Phenom 9100e 1.8 Ghz
Phenom 9150e 1.8 Ghz
Phenom 9550 2.2Ghz

Not sure with the price but which one is cheaper + performance I'll go with it.Normally how long can a processor last 30% usages if running the pc with room temp 35'c for 24/7 hours ? I am quite worry if too hot the processor will burn and spoil.

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Added on March 16, 2008, 6:34 pmAs I know there'll be a price drop again for 2 cores processor and new cheap 4 cores processor for RM 300-500

maybe want to change my A64 3800+ F2 to BE-2400 proc...it is worth??

i thought 2.0v...hehehe

That 3.58ghz I didnt dare to run Super PI 32m. When running got sound bzzz bzzz. Bro dblooi said its from pwm choking. That time was so scared anything'd happen   Here's the ss of 3.57ghz -

But that time the rig was running naked, summore I placed it near to the window during night. The idle temp is around 41-43 and load is 52+.CoolerMaster GeminII with 2 x Sanyo Denki H Series.

Wat gold o_O? OCZ gold?!....Nuuuuuuu