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post Mar 9 2008, 12:40 PM, updated 18y ago

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Red Ring of Failure
Is your Xbox 360 still working? You must be one of the lucky ones.

By Mike Smith
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Over 18 million Xbox 360s have sold through since the console's launch in November 2005, but just how many of those are still working? Squaretrade, a company that specializes in providing warranty support to purchasers of electronic goods from various manufacturers, claims 16% of Xbox 360s experience a hardware failure within six to ten months after a warranty purchase. Three out of every five failures were for the infamous "Red Ring of Death" general hardware failure error, a problem often linked to overheating.

The Xbox's figures compare poorly to competing consoles, which have a failure rate of around 3% -- and if anything, the Squaretrade figure underestimates the scale of the Xbox 360's reliability issues. It's a good bet that some buyers of Squaretrade warranties went straight to Microsoft after experiencing hardware issues and don't factor into the 16% number. On its company blog, Squaretrade pointed out that failure rates are "certain to go up" as the machines in their study group grow older.

Microsoft is cagey about coughing up official failure rate figures, which has lead some commentators to speculate about the actual severity of the problem. Luke Plunkett, a blogger on respected games news site Kotaku, said in a recent post that if the real failure rate wasn't in the 30-40% range, he'd "wolf down humble pie until his sides split."

Plunkett's sides are likely safe. Stories of 360 owners making their way through eight or nine consoles aren't hard to find, but to its credit, Microsoft has been working with the affected individual in at least one of those cases to lessen the impact of the constant failures.

16 Percent of Xbox 360s Are Likely to Break, Report Claims

Even so, there's a surprise lurking for consumers who return their 360s for repair. When you purchase content -- arcade games, extra tracks, etc. -- over Xbox Live, it's playable by any user on the console you used to make the transaction. If you go to a different console and sign in with your gamertag, you can download the content and play it only for as long as you're signed in. Once you move back to your main machine, it will no longer be playable. Sounds like a handy system to let you take the content you own from place to place, right?

But the trick with this system is that once a broken machine returns from its little vacation, it generally has sufficient internal changes to make it look, to Xbox Live, like a different console. So all your downloaded content -- which, if you're a heavy user, could amount to hundreds of dollars worth of purchases -- are only accessible to one gamertag, and only when the console has a live internet connection.

Getting this situation resolved can be difficult. Affected users have reported having to make repeated calls to the Xbox support line, often to no avail. Some fortunate individuals were able to eventually convince the MS reps to refund all the points they'd spent so they could repurchase all the affected content, although they had to do it using a different gamertag.
How to Avoid Hardware Problems

    * Air it out. Many failures are attributed to the inadequate cooling system of early-model 360s, so anything you can do to give it an easier time will pay off. Make sure you put the console in a place with cool, steady airflow.
    * Move it and lose it. Don't change the orientation of the console when it's running. The DVD drive's running gear isn't as well secured as it could be, so knocking over a vertically-standing console can cause the machinery to collide with the disc surface. Characteristic circular scratches are the result and are generally fatal for the game.
    * Think new. Thanks to a well-publicized cooling system redesign, newer machines are less likely to suffer problems. Any console bought in the last six months or so should have much better chances of surviving.

Red Ring of Death: What to do

Is it a "real" red ring of death? Somewhat confusingly, the true red ring error only has three of the four quarters of the ring illuminated. If all four are lit up, you have a much simpler problem: your A/V cable is loose!

Enterprising 360 owners have discovered a homebrewed way to fix the problem, although it only works for a short period of time. It involves turning on your console, wrapping it tightly in a towel, and leaving it on for 20-25 minutes. This might void your warranty from Microsoft, so consider yourself warned.

If all else fails, hit up the Xbox web site to request a warranty repair. They'll send you a cardboard "coffin" for you to return your console and send back a fixed machine in a few weeks. The official warranty was extended to three years for this specific problem, so even launch-day 360s are technically still covered.


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i think the failure rate is higher than 16% since microsoft is silenced in this matter

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post Mar 9 2008, 02:34 PM

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laugh.gif it's not 16%..it's more than 30% laugh.gif

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post Mar 9 2008, 03:12 PM

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the RROD is the thing that caused me to think to buy wii rather than xbox360...
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post Mar 9 2008, 03:13 PM

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post Mar 9 2008, 03:49 PM

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yeah microsoft should just submit to the will of sony. HAIL SONY!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2008, 03:53 PM

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3ROD made me to go for PS3 biggrin.gif
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post Mar 9 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(TerryZeroX @ Mar 9 2008, 03:53 PM)
3ROD made me to go for PS3 biggrin.gif
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second that bro
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post Mar 9 2008, 04:23 PM

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3rod made me buy a ps3 and another 360 tongue.gif
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3ROD and $$$ (in ahem games term) made my wan to go for Wii tongue.gif and also the fanboy factor laugh.gif
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post Mar 9 2008, 05:15 PM

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3rod made me buy and buy 360 (( dont care larrh.. just enjoy it ))


Added on March 9, 2008, 5:16 pm
QUOTE(ImSIEBEL @ Mar 9 2008, 04:23 PM)
3rod made me buy a ps3 and another 360 tongue.gif
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yes...thats rite

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post Mar 9 2008, 07:50 PM

 

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3rod made me fix my 3rod.



and continue playing with a console which undoubtedly has more games -at the moment-. (PS3 fanboys back off)
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post Mar 9 2008, 09:00 PM

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3rod make me want to repair my 360....but it is so expensive!!!!damn M$!!!
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post Mar 10 2008, 12:39 AM

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3rod make me want to buy EliteXbox360,ps3,wii,ps2,ps1,DreamCast,SegaSaturn,PSP,Xbox and Brick Game.....and dont forget Gameboy n DS...life is short,Play beyond....hahaha...
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16%? Should be 100% since in a long run, all Zephys will fall to 3ROD
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post Mar 10 2008, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Mar 9 2008, 03:13 PM)
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p/s: mods pls delete this if it has been posted before  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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woooo aku dah buat benda ni jadi siggie aku!
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post Mar 10 2008, 09:16 AM

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really, i just love this handbag fights! you go girl!
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post Mar 10 2008, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Mar 10 2008, 09:16 AM)
really, i just love this handbag fights! you go girl!
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Ya..this is fun, i like it too. Just now waiting Mod to have a last closing speech. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(adix4 @ Mar 10 2008, 08:08 AM)
woooo aku dah buat benda ni jadi siggie aku!
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laugh.gif laugh.gif , u not gonna pay the copyright, right?/? tongue.gif

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post Mar 10 2008, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Azhar85 @ Mar 9 2008, 09:00 PM)
3rod make me want to repair my 360....but it is so expensive!!!!damn M$!!!
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of course its expensive.. icon_idea.gif


Added on March 10, 2008, 11:04 am
QUOTE(Gurdian @ Mar 9 2008, 07:50 PM)
3rod made me fix my 3rod.
and continue playing with a console which undoubtedly has more games -at the moment-. (PS3 fanboys back off)
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ur rite mate...if 3rod fix it....or buy a new set...we all 360 gamers tgh enjoy our hot titles for our console..lagi pun most developers moving to 360.

my bro had ps3 but he kindda jealous ive got hot games title rather then him...so he bought my premium 360 for a half price..sometimes we had LAN match...its fun ! rclxms.gif


Added on March 10, 2008, 11:05 am
QUOTE(jeerie @ Mar 10 2008, 12:39 AM)
3rod make me want to buy EliteXbox360,ps3,wii,ps2,ps1,DreamCast,SegaSaturn,PSP,Xbox and Brick Game.....and dont forget Gameboy n DS...life is short,Play beyond....hahaha...
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wow..nice !

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post Mar 10 2008, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(GamersFamilia @ Mar 10 2008, 10:55 AM)
of course its expensive..  icon_idea.gif


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ur rite mate...if 3rod fix it....or buy a new set...we all 360 gamers tgh enjoy our hot titles for our console..lagi pun most developers moving to 360.

my bro had ps3 but he kindda jealous ive got hot games title rather then him...so he bought my premium 360 for a half price..sometimes we had LAN match...its fun !  rclxms.gif


Added on March 10, 2008, 11:05 am

wow..nice !
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So jealous u got another gamer bro with u.
Again... o no.... xbox360's failure rate is 16%!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 10 2008, 11:57 AM

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MS can take the 3ROD and shove up their ass..
y should we need to suffer this for supporting you!

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post Mar 10 2008, 11:58 AM

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" So jealous u got another gamer bro with u.
Again... o no.... xbox360's failure rate is 16%!!!! " - Nakata ( handsome guy liew )



dont think bout the percentage lerh....be positive...sigh

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post Mar 10 2008, 01:03 PM

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the 1st 10~12 million manufactured 360s is the most at-risk group with defects (motherboard warping, etc.)

at the end of the day,

the number of defective xbox360 > the number of still operating xbox1

/goes back to playing on my xbox1 tongue.gif
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post Mar 10 2008, 02:51 PM

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haha another reference to people planning to buy 360. tell microsoft go back to computer stuff do not release 360-2 in the future biggrin.gif
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post Mar 10 2008, 04:32 PM

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well 360 aint not bad console actually..not all of em defective...well im sure that microsoft learn it lesson from the 360 and make more better console in the future.

what ever its they will improve their product.
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do MS have any comp stuff besides software....the xbox 360 & Xbox is their 1st hardware stuff right....i never heard monitor, pc , cable, etc from MS except for their consoles & accesories....i think that why they fail in the 360 architecture because their technician & engineer plus quality control is veryyy suckkkkkkkkkkkkk at harware.....
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Aiya... this thread is nothing, the title is just make the anti-xbox360 laugh n make funny only. No one use gun force us buy xbox360,right? 3rod got 3 years warranty, i think this is fair enough, just not fair that Malaysia dun have official services center to claim Xbox360. If they dun like M$ or xbox360, then let them alone lah, i will not buy PS3 bcoz it got blu-ray inside, i will buy it when the game i love is inside.
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Mar 11 2008, 12:36 AM)
Aiya...  this thread is nothing, the title is just make the anti-xbox360 laugh n make funny only. No one use gun force us buy xbox360,right? 3rod got 3 years warranty, i think this is fair enough, just not fair that Malaysia dun have official services center to claim Xbox360. If they dun like M$ or xbox360, then let them alone lah, i will not buy PS3 bcoz it got blu-ray inside, i will buy it when the game i love is inside.
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nod.gif 2nd that...and 3rd from my friend who own NO console...
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post Mar 11 2008, 04:25 AM

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dono y the fanboys are flamming each other.. lol.. just play the one u want and enjoy..
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yea rite.... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Azhar85 @ Mar 10 2008, 11:07 PM)
do MS have any comp stuff besides software....the xbox 360 & Xbox  is their 1st hardware stuff right....i never heard monitor, pc , cable, etc from MS except for their consoles & accesories....i think that why they fail in the 360 architecture because their technician & engineer plus quality control is veryyy suckkkkkkkkkkkkk at harware.....
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Mouses, keyboards, gamepads, webcams...
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post Mar 12 2008, 02:34 PM

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satu lagi ... softwares
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post Mar 12 2008, 08:48 PM

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hemo..hemo..open lagi thread nie...aku rasa 16% tu untuk old xbox.....hahahaha laugh.gif
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post Mar 12 2008, 09:00 PM

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play tetris laa better.. no 3rod.. thumbup.gif
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can ps3 use lan for multiplayer game like 360??
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QUOTE(utopianage @ Mar 12 2008, 09:10 PM)
can ps3 use lan for multiplayer game like 360??
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It is at Sony section have no one give u the answer??? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nakata101 @ Mar 12 2008, 09:51 PM)
It is at Sony section have no one give u the answer???  hmm.gif
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