Hahaha, no ler ...... I'm actually building up my HD-DVD collection after selling off my original dvds. I'm expecting a shipment of HD-DVDs. At $11.95 to $13.95 each, it's cheaper than buying an original dvd.

Itu NFS series won't be out in BLU for a while, Universal has been keeping very quiet lately.

Meet The Spartans also need to be released on Blu-Ray meh? Overkill lah ......

POP, tak payah takut, the US version of The Eye is a total crap if compared to the original The Eye from HK and sorry, even got Jessica Alba also, I won't close one eye to say it is a good movie.

USD2 aje ....... I was expecting that all FOX titles drop to USD19.95 and below. Hahaha

Why not get a LCD tv? Dell is a bit too small for BD enjoyment. Busuk-busuk need to get at least 32' and above.

I think X 52 better.

Honestly, for computer use is okay lah but for watching blu-ray, nope ...... the Dell monitor is not up to it.

I think when you listen to 3808, you won't want LX90 for sure.

There's a firmware update for RX-V1800 and RX-V3800 to solve the DTS-MA bitstream popping sound, the firmware was released on 13 March to solve this issue. A couple of titles were affectly, namely, The Fly, Chronos, Fantastic Four, Flyboys, etc on BD and Eagles on HD-DVD. Not sure whether the firmware can be used on our local RX-V1800, I got no confirmation on that yet.

Another issue that bugs me is the RX-V1800 and RX-V3800 will process the HDMI signals and causes clipping issues. It will process a 0-255 Full RGB signal to 16-235 RGB Video signal, the XBOX 360 and PS3 supports Full RGB signals as well as certain Blu-Ray players and all HTPCs as well. I've asked my friend to check with Yamaha whether this can be fixed and what's the impact if it can't be fixed as my Bravia 400A can support Full RGB signals, I've tested yesterday. It's a big concern to me.

The DTS-MA popping sound via bitstream also affects Onkyo's 605, 705, etc as well and they have more serious problems, lip sync problems via HDMI for upconverted video signals. Seems like Denon and Marantz don't have DTS-MA popping issues but Denon has macroblocking issues when upscaling SD sources. Damn ....... veli headache.

Yeah but sadly, XBOX 360 can't select between YPbCr and RGB but since XBOX 360 doesn't support lossless audio, the only solution is to plug the HDMI cable directly to the LCD and the audio output via optical. For PS3, the games support Full RGB whereas Full RGB has no effect on Blu-Ray and DVD movies so the clipping issue will affect PS3 games but not on the latter.

Surprising fact, the RX-V663 also suffers from Full RGB clipping issue, earlier they blamed the ABT1010 chip used in RX-V1800 / RX-V3800 but seems like it's not due to the upscaling chip, Yamaha argued that they're following the RGB Video standards so there won't be a RGB fix in future firmwares. Sigh ....... By right, they should leave all HDMI signals untouched just like other brands.

As for the latest firmware for RX-V1800, the link is here, http://www.yamahapab.com/assets/products/V1800_05_13r4.zip but I'm not sure whether it will work with our RX-V1800 because nobody can tell whether the file is region protected but anyway, you can give it a try, if it refuses to update, that means the firmware is incorrect.

They have a repeater, that's correct but Yamaha shouldn't touch the HDMI signals and changing from 0-255 to 16-235 will result washed out colours if your display is calibrated to support Full RGB. I wonder why they did that for. They should leave it untouched like other brands.

Second problem, Yamaha amps detect DTS-MA 5.1 tracks as DTS-MA7.1 so it is engaged all the time even if it is just a DTS-MA 5.1 source. This can't be solved by firmware yet and Yamaha refused to comment anything on this.

Of course, like what you have mentioned, if PS3 outputs everything via PCM then this is not an issue and some Blu-Ray players can output all lossless tracks via PCM instead of Bitstream, again not an issue so if that's the case, why spend RM3.8K on RX-V1800 when one can simply get a normal amp that accepts PCM 7.1 via HDMI, right?

Good morning Megatron, sorry I'm late, I just went online aje.

Wah ..... veli touched lor ...... Taukeh BD will try all means to communicate with us.

That's a good question. my office blocks free web based emails and Jobstreet. LYN no problem.

I dun think the whole office are LYN supporters gua.

Already downloading it around 1 pm, just plug the network cable to your PS3 and wah laa ........ it will detect the latest System Update automatically. It's around 58% liao ....... I brought my PS3 to my office, it's underneath my desk and connected to my LCD monitor and network cable. Nobody will know.

Ahem .......... Megatron finally using Denon amp. Elite betul, respect, respect.

I wonder got any difference between DTS-MA to PCM and DTS-MA via Bitstream. No chance to try that and compare.

Apa Ah Beng pulak ......... Elites use HD projector and Denon one mah ..... Hahaha. I can't afford those so I just settle for a Full HD LCD will do even though not the best but better than nothing lah. Only end of the month, will get a mid range HD amp. That's all for me but I'm happy lah. Can't complain much.

Your Denon 3808 beli berapa? It's below RM6K, rite?

You can temporarily use PLIIX on your amp to get 7.1 matrixed. Have you tried playing any movies with PCM 7.1, does your amp read them as 7.1 or 5.1?

Hmm ...... Megatron ...... how about you, DTS-MA 7.1 will show 5.1 or 7.1 with your Denon amp?

Seems like there are endless problems here and there. Firstly, Yamaha detects DTS-MA 5.1 signals as DTS-MA 7.1 and now the PS3 is doing the total opposite.

Guess I have less problems with a hd-dvd player even though it's a rather basic piece of hardware and it works fine.

Anyway, according to a post in AVS Forum, PCM can add huge amounts of jitter to a signal but Bitstreaming adds very little jitter. What does this do to the sound ? Well experts would claim too much jitter is bad.

Megatron got shares in this company, ar?
Promote it pulak.

Honestly, I think ppl will rather buy Samsung R7 at RM1650.

You also worked in Dell before, ar? Hahaha ...... small world ....... Funny thing, I dun support their products, I rather use HP.


You can read the reviews from Hi-Fi mags, Pioneer LX series ain't that impressive. You can ask Megatron how his 3808 sounds like.

Not you meh Taukeh BD?

Megatron only likes Destiny's Child and some say Jay Chou too.

The After Tomorrow? Well, I haven't even watched it yet but I know Fantastic Four 2 on BD is very good sounding. Just went to my friend's place to watch it last nite.


The girl climb out from tv? How about girl climb out from a plasma tv?

Well, it's a Denon 3808 with B&W 700 series speakers. Apparently, my friend who works with an investment company received 6 months performance bonus so he spent them all on these stuff. Luckily, his wife didn't know that the whole HT setup costs more than a car.

No need to be like that lah, you're not bad yourself ...... you got 3808 wor, my friend is just plain lucky to have a job like that. I'm currently deciding between Yamaha 1800 and Denon 2808, the price of Yamaha 1800 just went down to RM3,550 but the Denon 2808's pricing is still the same, stable as a rock.

Well, was hoping that Universal will release the extended version of King Kong on blu-ray, the hd-dvd version wasn't the extended version and it's only in Dolby Digital Plus. I'm also praying hard that all the blu-ray releases from Universal will have lossless audio tracks since BD has more disc space.

Velodyne or REL for you?

I also want Wild Wild West on BD too.

But no harm getting a receiver that can decode Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA via bitsream b'coz who knows, maybe future blu-ray players will be dirt cheap and can give better PQ and AQ than a PS3.

Ehh ..... who's doing the bulk? You? Can join, ar? Or too late liao.

How's the pic on BD? Is it less grainy than the Dvd version, it's a nice movie and I know the grain was intentional but hopefully it's toned down a little for the BD release.

Yalor, for example Shakira is now USD13.95 onli, it was USD19.95 a few weeks back.