hm....sifu sifu sekalian here

i am in dilema of my gear now.....

i been using spell fire and spellstrike set, with 10/48/3 build
however, i just got my t5 gloves and pants


so which should i use now?
t5 gloves and pants tend to give much lower +spell damage (well, i am not in arcane spec , so obvioulsly)

i am thinking to respec into arcane, but i am scared that my mana pool isn't large enough for it
besides, i heard that arcane spec gona get nerfed alot in 2.4?

oh, i got TLC too....

so guys...can help me abit with my gear?


PS: i got t4 head also, if i were to use t5, shud i use t4 head? lol

1. Spellstrike is good as a starter for t4 zones, but should be replaced asap once you're in t5 zones.

2. Since you have 2 set t5 gear, go respec arcane and use them. Arcane will give you a bigger mana pool and better mana regen and more dmg to boot. However this also depends on point 3 below.

3. Pray your raid leader knows how to assign grps and put you arcane mages with spriest and shaman.

5. If you got an armory, link it and i can prolly give you some additional input.

ah....i seee....


http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...strasz&n=Tingal

above is my armory link

1. shoulder/cloak no enchant, bracers wrong enchant.
2. no blastwave for fire spec?

shoulder ar....sigh....i aldor haven exalted...zzz and i not much time to ply now besides raid....work till back too late to farm d
hm...cloak i dont knw...will chekc later

bracer i enchant that because its not worth it, i am aiming for a better one( +spellhit or damage i forget)

thanks for telling me it...but the question is shud i respec and which is better

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Added on March 5, 2008, 11:23 pmjust respec to aracane,

40/21/0


dps increase by around 200 although i keep on OOM hell alot of time
and i am 3rd on dps
which usually i will on 7th or 8th


done at hydross though

This post has been edited by samlee860407: Mar 5 2008, 11:23 PM

Your question has been answered in my earlier post.


No spriest/shammy combo for you?

got SP in hydross, and got both SP and shammy in my group

but then, hydross i OOM fast due to AOE, in lurker, the SP just die too fast....
well.....and since i got 11k mana buffed only...welll


oh, and my guild is lack on SP, so normally it will be given to healers. so i am praying the next few fight

btw, is 40/21 good enough if i just spam fireball or scorch when i OOM? lol

if u oom fast, how long do u wait before consuming ur mana gem or mana pot? when do u use ur evocate?

wear blues only pro dps in blues but srsly is spellstrike better then t4's?? every time i pass a mage a t4 set they complain and say their ss is better then the t4.....

i use my 1st mana gem whenever i use up around 2.5k mana, and 1st mana pot after i use 2.5k mana again
and then keep on use those when cd is up

evo normally done when i left 20% to 30% mana

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Added on March 6, 2008, 12:49 pmit is in my opinion
but now i will want to get my t4 d
as t4 gives more mana

This post has been edited by samlee860407: Mar 6 2008, 12:49 PM

tier gear > crafted gear

From what I understand from my Mage Class Leader, he usually don't put a Shadow Priest with the Mages as they are all Fire Spec and therefore able to managed their Mana better unless there is a 2nd shadow priest in the guild.

On the flip side, the mages will either get a Boomkin or a Shammy for buffs.

Here are my 2 cents. btw I am Arcane (40/0/21)

I usually dump my mana pool during the 1st minute. Pop acrane power, PoM, Icy Veins, Trinket and AB spam till oom(for fights that are agro sensitive, i will evocate at arond 60~70% mana pool to top it up and put my Evocate on early cooldown).
Evocate up. Then cycle 3x AB and 3x Frostbolt, pop mana stones and pots when ever can. This way, b4 the fight is over u can evocate again, and spam AB till oom, and the boss should be dead by then.

I dun usually have a spriest or shammy in my grp so this way i usually dun hav mana issue. The only encounter where I will hav mana problems is during Al'ar.

For Hydross, I dun usually AoE, locks do a better job, just focus on hydross, and throw a frostnova during nature phase, or a flamestrike during frost, and continue to dps the hydross.

Not sure if this is a normal practice, most of the mages in my guild will conjure all ranks of mana stones and use them during the fight, but for me, after i use up my mana emerald, i will re-conjure it during the fight .

My armory
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.x...Remar&n=Shykull

Spellstrike is definitely better than t4. T4 lack of +hit and crit.
t5>Spellstrike>t4


That is not true, netherstrike crafted set is wayyy better than t4 ele gear.

This post has been edited by Goblinsk8er: Mar 6 2008, 05:41 PM

there are not a single boomkin in my guild...

and only 2 restro druid healers, 2 feral drui(1 rarely come)

my guild is abit funny, as its lack of priest rouge and druid, sometimes raid with only 1 priest, no rouges, and no druids at all

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Added on March 6, 2008, 6:47 pmyes...t6 and 5 is better....others is bullshit

well, i am talking abt mage only, others i dont knw

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Added on March 6, 2008, 6:50 pmlol, reconjure mana emerlard huh?
well, i will hav to conjure more mana gem d....last time when fire no need, hehe


hm...use evocation 1st huh, but the cooldown is 8minutes, normally at 8minutes, the fight is almost over d for me
sometimes is totally over liao

This post has been edited by samlee860407: Mar 6 2008, 06:50 PM

Dont just look at +hit, crit, dmg. Biggest problem with mages is their super squishiness. What differentiates a mage lying on the floor vs one thats still dpsing on a boss fight is the stats on the gear, ie. stamina and all.

Know the fight and you wont die. they have IB now anyway. From a warlock's point of view, the FSW set totally owns t4. You dont heally have to focus on sta untill you hit vashj kael, untill then you should have a decent amount of T5 gear.

agree imo

There were mages in my guild who went in to T5 content with just 6kish buffed hp without lock's imp, and they still managed to survive then. I have no clue about the statement I read just above about all mages having IB now (quit the game like 6 months ago) but back then when mages were speccing fire or arcane, they managed to survive fine without any problem. All dpsers not only compete for top honors in the dps list (just for the sake of fun), but we too compare and make fun of those who die too frequently (including trash) and eventually that could take a toll on their call-up into a raid.

Most damages soaked in T5 content are avoidable, and for the unavoidable ones their relatively low hp should be able to cover it, if not just blame poor healing should it be the latter sort of damage soaked. T6 on the other hand is another ball game, but if you hit that stage, you should already be familiar with the mechanics of the raid and your gear should be rather sufficient.

Yea new patch now, all mages have iceblock, the iceblock tallent was replaced by icy veins i think

When you are new to the fight and have never done it before, you will definite get hit by the shit the boss tosses at you. Granted, most inc damage can be avoided... but lemme give u some scenarios...

1. Tell me which person has never EVER gotten hit by.. say spout from Lurker before (when they were still learning the fight) ?

2. Alar flamepatch - you can blink out fast nuff, or run out fast nuff, but the debuff is ticking (3000 per tick). That extra hp will keep you alive long enough for a heal to land (provided u get one).

3. Solarian blinding light (2500) then mage unfortunately is targetted for arcane missiles (3 waves of 3000 dmg) for a total of 11500 dmg. The mage will be lucky if his healers are on the ball else he's kissing the floor.

I agree with you guys that knowing the fight, being alert its all important. Also, equally important is having that extra length in your hp bar which effectively extends your life/dps. Just gotta find a balance between survivability and dps output.

This post has been edited by saingau: Mar 7 2008, 05:29 AM

1. Me haha, seriously, im not trying to brag, but i have never been hit by spout

2. mages have iceblock now, and DBM warns you when you are targeted.

3. Again, DBM warns you when u will get the missles, so you can IB before that

But i will agree, you need to balance HP and DPS, because if you die, ur dps = 0. However, spellstrike + spellfire has been used by many magi for T5 content, but you MUST replace them with T5 when you have the chance to do so. Maybe when you are learning the fight, you can stack a bit of sta gear, but when you are comfortable with it, just change back to spell fire.