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post Apr 18 2008, 10:45 PM

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based on the interview, saji is prolly gonna pilot a gundam?

and wow something just tells me allelujah dies in s2... the fact that they can dispose lockon that easily is also an assuring factor. probably ending up in some REALLY tearjerking moment (ep24 christina and that guy [his name is just too complicated for my taste]) with marie aka soma peiris (however you spell it)

after seeing the combo of h/allelujah, i wouldnt want to see that go down sad.gif


Added on April 18, 2008, 10:45 pm
QUOTE(redeye84 @ Apr 17 2008, 02:29 PM)
No.. Unicorn is a novel..

I wish Unicorn has a manga and anime.. They is so much potential for it than Gundam 00.. whose 00 is not really 00 but 00 sufficently 00 enough.
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it could be my comprehension of the english language, but i seriously have no idea what you just said.


Added on April 18, 2008, 10:48 pm
QUOTE(kyon22 @ Apr 17 2008, 07:36 PM)
most likely or unlikely?... hmm.gif

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most unlikely.

but who knows. dynames may not even exist anymore in favor of a new gundam, after salvaging the solar furnace. (we know of his *in*capabilities when it comes down to close quarters and especially vs other "gundams" which comes down to close quarter battles. but hell, lockon performed awesomely despite his disadvantages before he die)

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post Apr 22 2008, 02:06 AM

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afaik the weapons they are firing are just standard beam weapons?

more towards the gn-x though, all they do is float around pew pew pew

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oh and not sure if you bothered to ponder, but if all you guys are talkin is uc related stuff, which obviously isnt the majority liking thats shown in this thread, what do you think people would react? only 3 possible outcome:
1) just ignore and 2 sided discussions (when series is runnin)
2) clash and flame on
3) desert thread (post series)

another thing to note is that season2 starts in 6 months, you can discuss its aftermath, speculate the upcoming stuffs all you want, but 6 months is seriously a long time ahead. and all you can do is guessworks and speculations.

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post Apr 22 2008, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Demon_Eyes_Kyo @ Apr 22 2008, 08:41 AM)
Probably they have multiple charge up systems in the gun. WHile one is about to release, the other few charges up. Its already 2300 or 2400, they should be capable of doing something like that. That is what I guess, from what you are saying, but I don't think the team behind 00 went deep into these facts.

It might has its flaws, but what the heck, its fun to watch anyway, except the 2nd half of the first season where people start to die like in Iraq , LOL.
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to be honest i think iraq is WAAAY worse. few "glorified" deaths in double oh is no where near the death tolls on iraq war be it the civs or the millitary personel from both sides.


Added on April 22, 2008, 10:05 am
QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 08:12 AM)
I think the biasity lies on yourself lar. Your arguments against Gundam 00 are just biased and do not even fall within rational critical debate. Heck i'm not even a Gundam 00 fanboi but i don't gila criticise it like you do. For me (and i think Quazecotl too) I don't really care what you think of 00. We're not like Narutards trying to defend their "awesome show". But if you're gonna throw a critical comment and spark an intelligent debate, don't make yourself look silly and whine that you're getting flamed for it. That's all I wanna say about the subject. If you did the same thing in the Code Geass thread and said stuff like "DUuRrrr, so stupid why Rivalz is there as a character, waste of time and stupid directing DUrrr. And wtf the cat episode....stupid." i'd also be equally annoyed.

And why the thread is quiet? Aftermath discussion? I'm quite sure we had it for 2-3 weeks after the series ended, but someone was banging the show on unlogical grounds and pulling the "UC IS SUPERIOR" card, that any proper discussion was quickly squashed. Then we get labeled as 00-tards.  sweat.gif
Its basically the same thing as linear catapult. laugh.gif

Well why too fast rate of fire? People have been "spoiled" by sci-fi depictions of the rail gun due to games like Quake, Fallout etc. Its quite possible to have a rapid firing gauss rifle. Theory is if you are able to generate so much power to power the EM field and propel bullets, i'm sure you're able to keep it up for a longer duration of time, thus rapid firing. Its kind of silly to power it up, shoot 1 slug, then it needs a cooling period to shoot another. But i'm sure sci-fi always explains it in a way that's acceptable. An example of a rapid firing rail gun in fiction is Arnie's Eraser. That was awesome.
They both sponsored and made by Bandai/Sunrise but thats about it.
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actually im quite a gundam 00 tard/fanboi myself. only difference is that i dont go zealous about how winrar gundam 00 is as opposed to some others that would, be it 00 or UC or w/e.

in regards of the railgun theory for double oh, no matter how you see it, railguns rail (you would know since you still remember arnie's eraser biggrin.gif) so the projected output should have some sort of a spiral animation, and the projectile should be VERY penetrateble on most types of armor, granted it has an actual bullet head.

weapons in double oh on the other hand are all beam based, they have no spiral animation, and they "splatter" upon contact instead of "piercing" as opposed a railgun nature projectile would.

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post Apr 22 2008, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 02:37 PM)
Actually no. They can be fired rapidly. From the same wiki page you quoted.

Added on April 22, 2008, 2:44 pm

Harr??? Rail gun is projectile weapon lar. You can't apply magnetic charge to beam weapons to make them faster.

Beam weapons are light weapons. And being light....they SHOULD be the fastest weapons ever and should be invisible but this is not the case with sci-fi. Meaning once u aim and pull the trigger, the target definately can't dodge already cause its considered as good as hit. But that will be pretty boring action scenes right? laugh.gif

Even in CE, railguns being kinetic weapons are worthless against targets with phase shift, as Kira shot his rail guns at Shinn's Impulse and Shinn was like emo "are you toying with me, saying i would've been dead without phase shift?" something to that effect.
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the best examples i can find in regards to beam weapons are from the mechwarrior series. if you've played the games or watched the animations/cartoons, you'll notice that all the beam weapons are instant hits. excluding mechwarrior 4 from microsoft that bastardized pulse lasers by creating travel times (but then again old pulse lasers are worthless shits)
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post Apr 22 2008, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 03:36 PM)
I have not enough Gundamness to talk about beam weapons....so i'll take your word for it about not being light weapons. And IIRC, beam weapons can be used underwater i thought?

But about pulse lasers in Mechwarrior 4, i think you thinking of Mechwarrior 2 with the travel time. IIRC, Mech 3 to 4 onwards, pulse lasers were exactly the same as ER lasers except they have faster firing rates. ER lasers take 1 shot per second whereas pulse lasers take 2 shots per second but its still a concentrated beam. In Mech 2 they were rapid firing pea shooters. laugh.gif
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mech 2-3 pulses are "hold-down" instant contact pea shooters. you can just equip ur entire mech with pulses and draw f words on enemy mechs, or on their cockpit, for the cool glass breaking sound effects and annoying your opponent to hell.

mech 4 = tri-shot "pulses" that has a travel time unlike normal lasers. or the previous pulses.

ER = extended range btw tongue.gif
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post Apr 22 2008, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 04:07 PM)
Yeah i know what ER is. tongue.gif

Ok...i have little to no recollection of Mech 4 actually. Lasers suck anyway. PPCs and Gauss rifles ftw.
In MS Igloo, it was depicted that long range battles were ineffective and totally inaccurate due to distortions caused by Minovsky particles. I no idea how come minovsky particles also cause visual distortions since they just make radar useless (as shown by that guy firing the experimental giant cannon through the scope) but generally that means long range combat was useless and fleets had to fight it out through firing randomly in a large firing arc, or engage in MS warfare which was to get up close and personal with each other and shoot each other.
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lol more OT:

PPC is too energy ineffecient
and gauss rifle is too heavy, and if you play single player that involves money (eg: mercenaries), too expensive.

best weapons for mech 2-3:

the monkey missle lamer-
pack your entire mech with LRMs. take out 3-5 targets with an insane missle barrage that even with full AMS couldnt even stop unless they have fast jump jets and strafe back buying time for AMS to take out incoming missles. Once payload depletes, self destruct and respawn.

only work in multiplayer setting, and its an extremely noob way to play mechwarrior and expect RL pvp to happen.

Autocannon abuser-
in pre mech 4, taking autocannon shots to the leg causes your mech to fall. the rest is up to your imagination. down side? auto cannon is hard to aim at long range, require to get into CQB or mid range for it to work, not to mention its only effective on cockpit shots or leg shots (unless you wanna torture ur enemy by disabling their hands, and all, but then again you can equip weapons on legs/torso and virtually anywhere pre-mech4)

Flamethrower flamer-
Your dmg suck, your a clown. But why is this still an awesome weapon? Upon 2nd or 3rd shot of a full flame barrage, your opponent is stuck in PERMANENT overheat situation. What comes next? he will just sit still and let you buttsecks. Only way out? coolant flush and try to score a 1 shot cockpit shot. If that fail, forget it, self destruct to save yourself time.

ER Laser mass-
BOOM HEADCOCKPITSHOT


Added on April 22, 2008, 4:41 pm
QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 03:36 PM)
I have not enough Gundamness to talk about beam weapons....so i'll take your word for it about not being light weapons. And IIRC, beam weapons can be used underwater i thought?

But about pulse lasers in Mechwarrior 4, i think you thinking of Mechwarrior 2 with the travel time. IIRC, Mech 3 to 4 onwards, pulse lasers were exactly the same as ER lasers except they have faster firing rates. ER lasers take 1 shot per second whereas pulse lasers take 2 shots per second but its still a concentrated beam. In Mech 2 they were rapid firing pea shooters. laugh.gif
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yea AFAIK beams can be used underwater too depending on what type of beams.

because logically, light can travel underwater, and general beam is light based

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post Apr 22 2008, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 05:09 PM)
Lasers don't work underwater despite being light because its the "heat" caused by the laser that does the damage. So unless your laser is so hot that even the water cannot cool it (unlikely) its not gonna work.

You will need something else like a long ranged version of a plasma cutter (something like superhot blowtorch) since I know those for a fact work underwater.

LRMs are pathetic la. Never had a problem with them before actually.  But yes i am well aquainted with the 20x small lasers shoot one leg = u win duels...and the autocannons "Gyro overload" of mechwarrior 3 pwnage. Too imba.

In Mech 2....autocannons are more or less insta kills its crazy. And the firing rate is ridiculous. Just very limited ammo. And in mech 2 hardpoints are not differeintiated so you can pack 50 machine guns and insta kill people at close range. laugh.gif
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just like how sun light filtering through the ocean causing it to be bright and pretty, and warm n fuzzy, same theory could be applied to laser underwater. You just need to have a higher output, and/or focusing lenses or similiar tech/mechanic to enhance the focus/density of the beam.

for lrm, you tried alpha strike all ur lrm packs then flush and alpha again? AMS + JJ strafe also can die tongue.gif cuz its like... ok, remember the hero ending scene, the one where jet li is standing there, and a whole buttload of arrows shreak through the sky, that one, cept its missles, and its homing locked. (if you install computerized targeting, you can even specify which part to target too its not even funny lmao)
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post Apr 22 2008, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 06:06 PM)
Your LRM got slow refresh time la. Flush and alpha again also take time right?

Worse case, Can shutdown mech or change active radar into passive to avoid or not?  hmm.gif
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cooldown isnt long, like 2-3 sec? AMS cant keep up lol.

and no, shutting down ur mech cant avoid once your locked on. only thing to do is AMS JJ strafe. thats why LRM massers are lame as hell in multiplayers tongue.gif
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post Apr 23 2008, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(Demon_Eyes_Kyo @ Apr 23 2008, 09:04 AM)
LOL was talking about mercenaries. Coz thats the only one I played. But that was pretty fun. Crap I did not know it was not effective at all. Btw, mercs got infantry meh? I think they must have been too small till I missed them. Heck I just put on the machine guns just for the fun of it.
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got, if im not mistaken, in merc you can eject from mech and run around with a shitty machine gun, and you die in 1 hit from almost anything... lol.

from ur mech view, the infantry looks like pixelated funny looking cardboard-like guys (almost 2d ish lulz, or its 2d XD)
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post Apr 23 2008, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 23 2008, 11:41 AM)
Can't remember any of the mechwarrior games where u can eject out of your mech and run around. Eject = mission failed. Self destruct also mission failed. Damn stupid la those buttons dunno put there for what. laugh.gif

In merc got infantry, in battle armour. The Inner Sphere uses dunno what battlesuit whereas the Clans use Elementals. They jump jet around poking u with small lasers and SRMs. They're pretty harmless in the games. But in the novels, they are very devastating! They jump jet up to the cockpit, cut it open and kill the pilot inside!! Well in Mechwarrior 2 Mercs, i remember last time through some bug or something, i fitted 2 thunderbolt IV missiles on to the elemental armour (you can choose it as a mech). I pwned ppl...with a small little battle suit. Quite funny.
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yea got, forgot which particular series. but its pointless to run around as infantry, your good as fission mailed. cuz afaik you cant hijack mechs.

also in the novel/cartoon/animation, the small suits are just as you said. cuz you can jack mechs (aside from goin up the cockpit and firing missles through it lulz.


Added on April 23, 2008, 1:31 pm
QUOTE(kyon22 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:41 PM)
did you guys play mechwarrior on the xbox?..
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nah, not the M$ mechwarrior. its the old schools from activision

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post May 3 2008, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ May 3 2008, 03:06 AM)
After some long thinking..  I trying to figure out about the aftermath of Gundam 00.

Technically Celestial Being has already accomplice most of their objective that was given.What Aelioa Schienberg had planned has already come true.

Firstly CB ended the zero sum game stalemate that the 3 nation was having. Next is that now the world is united under the Earth Federation.
Also last and not least The world is force to push themself in technological terms and get rid of their armies complacency.

So now the thing i dont get is So why does CB still needs to fight now?? They had already accomplice their goal of uniting the world..

Eradicating war?? I feel that this is more for propaganda than a real objective.. You can never have no wars. Even Albert Einstien did said "So long as men live they will be always war". Since the show does reveal the Eradicating war isnt CB goal, Only our fellow Setsuna still hold on to it.

This kinda reminds of Relena Peacecraft from Gundam W who wants the world to get rid of their MS for ensure peace..

So?? Techicanlly CB job is done.. They can pretty much pack up and leave.. It shows that even 2 years after gundam absent.. The world still remain unite and even introduce us Lance MS.
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basically what wolfx said.

and you couldnt've forgotten that within CB itself is sorta "2 factioned"? previously thrones and the original meisters, then corner and the original meisters, then the innovators. based from some interview some time ago for double 00, they also mentioned everything that's happening in the world (from the solar war to the gundam 00 show we are watching for example) CB has something to do with it. so it still isnt too far fetched that aeolia could be a bad guy after all smile.gif

and no, the world isnt entirely united and not every country joined the EF. 382? if im not mistaken countries is hardly the entire world. theres probably a few others, and the story can show those countries rebeling and what not. or maybe EF oppressing them, who knows?

you somewhat contradict yourself there, you said so long men live they will be always war, i think there is your answer. just that alone we know the world wont be united and theres always something to tell for season2. and that we can expect some cheesy "i am gundam/intervening yo wars" quote from setsuna, at age 20... lol.

and btw, its 4 years. 2 years is the time saji lost contact with louise.
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post May 5 2008, 10:26 AM

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www.gundam00.net

i cant understand moonletters, so anyone here that does maybe assist translate a bit? im referring to the new gundam 00f/v/p links, possible OVA releases before season2?
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post May 6 2008, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ May 6 2008, 10:52 PM)
Thats why i want a ZZ remake. With Zeta ending alter so now ZZ seems rather canon now..

Also ZZ needs a remake as it is consider 1 of the worse UC Gundam series ever...

In before Tomino Elitist come looking for me again..
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to be honest, i think only you and starghazzer are like, the only active uc posters around, let alone tomino elitists. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

tomino elitists lolwut?!


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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 5 2008, 10:26 AM)
www.gundam00.net

i cant understand moonletters, so anyone here that does maybe assist translate a bit? im referring to the new gundam 00f/v/p links, possible OVA releases before season2?
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so no moon readers around?

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post May 7 2008, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(tsubasa89 @ May 7 2008, 12:00 AM)
sometimes people do not post but they're here looking at the post whistling.gif

there's nothing wrong for being loyal to the old UC gundam works or all the new series,
just dont close your opinion towards whats good in the other series outside of your preference,  wink.gif
since each of the series have something that sets itself apart from others, setting up yourself in a bias viewpoint will definitely makes you unable to enjoy GUNDAM,
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1) i cant simply mind read posters, so if theres no post from tomino elitists, i simply cant assume they are there lurking around. besides, redeye mentioned about them getting him (assumably a flame war of sorts), and there was none at all. so at the end of the day, no, we cant simply mind read tomino elitists so they can reign terror even without posting.

2) ive never said anything about being loyal to the old UC gundams. merely pointing out theres no tomino elitists around, or active for the time being anyways.

3) if you've noticed my postings made on AS, ive never being biased on ANY anime thus far. you can even look up my name and postings, and point it out to me if there is and ill stand corrected.

4) while it may seem that i am biased towards the UC series, i dare say im not. however, i wont look into it just because its a gundam series. at the end of the day im not a diehard gundam fanboy thus i wont waste the effort of digging through the countless BAD DUBS just to find some piss poor animated old gundam UC series animation. to re-cap: there was no preference, it was simply too much effort to find original japanese dub with english subs of ancient-artifact gundam animes.

5) if it even makes you feel better, i started from gundam wing, watched seed, and now the new gundam 00. there, its more than 1 gundam series. so am i GUNDAM?!?!?
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QUOTE(wolfx @ May 7 2008, 12:35 AM)
lol quazecotl....so u mean u haven't watch a UC gundam show yet?

Starghazzer & Redeye might rape your butt soon.....
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if they were handed to me on a silver platter, jap dub + english sub, i might!

i have an insane ammount of hdd space afterall, and i am watching around 20+ anime series right now.

but yea, as evident from the past posts, i dont think the power level of my care-o-meter is reading high. lolwut?!
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 7 2008, 05:27 AM)
I don't do guys... tongue.gif
When did redeye start a flame war? We're all mature enough for meaningful discussions here, even though we don't agree in everything. That's what makes it fun, isn't it?

Bad dubs? OMG... why do you even bother watching dubs? SUBS for the win. Dubs are horrible... be it old UC or newer AU series. And don't complain about the "bad quality" animation. Try to get remastered versions and see how beautiful the pictures are. My 0080, 0083, and 08th MST are all remastered versions and they don't look inferior to any of the recent animes. Recent new mechas are overrated anyway, with all those epilepsy-inducing rainbow colours and flashes. Then again, I agree that it's not easy to find ancient Japanese dubs with good english subs; but it's not that hard either. Torrents may not necessary have enough seeds, but the local anime shop should have some copies. I almost succumbed to buying the original Zeta and Turn A series (60+ CDs !!) last year but in the end had to save money to buy my Zaku. rclxm9.gif

And yeah... preferring UC doesn't mean we are Tomino loyalists. In fact, I've never even watched Tomino's other works like Dunbine or Ideon and I don't intend to, at least in the near future. Still, I think all Gundam fans should at least know a bit about the original 0079 background story because it's what started this franchise. It's like living in Malaysia and not knowing who is Tunku Abdul Rahman. Hence I posted up the 2 vids on the last page so that everyone can know a bit about 0079... it's just 20 minutes, surely everyone has that 20 minutes to spare right? And yeah, that remade animation is top notch...
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the speed you guys put up spiked barricades and start to unload a volley of lead never cease to amaze me. if you dont get it, im referring on how defensive you guys can get.
since im clearly mistaken by a long shot, ill clarify:

1) considering i did mentioned that redeye mentioning tomino elitist are getting him, its pretty safe to interpret it as THEY starting a flame way with him, not him (redeye) start a flame war.

2) i dont watch dubs

3) i dont watch dubs

4) did i say i dont watch dubs yet? yeah i dont watch dubs. and since im clarifying, i was referring how the majority of old animes are dubbed, and searching through them nets you dubbed animes more than original jap voice with english sub. HECK, the majority of UC w/e youtubes vid being posted in this thread (yes i do watch them time to time) ARE english dub. and the moment i see shitty english voice start shittin out, its immediately stop before ears + brains explode.

5) lets be damn serious here, remastered version or not, they sure aint no HD anime, and to compare recent animations with the past is seriously doh.gif doh.gif
until i see gundam 00/shakugan no shana s2/nabari no ou (and the long list goes on, just putting up some examples) level of animations done to the old gundams, im not convinced. theres only so much you can do on remastered version. and the main remastering is always the sound effects, hardly the animation itself as reproductions of an entire anime is not as easy as you think, and if they do that anyways, they might as well air it on tv in which i would probably catch it and watch it already.

6) i dont think recent new mechas being overrated or not are the issue. its the fact how you guys hug the old gundam's balls so tight and immediate shun any opinions that defiles those said old mechas almost immediately without hesitation. words back at you, overrated much? (fact: zaku is prolly the most overrated gunpla ive seen. countless of different versions of zaku released, yet. its the same damn mono eye, with the same damn design minus modifications here/there and different random weapons doh.gif doh.gif )

7) dont think its been mentioned that preferring UC == tomino loyalist. no need to get defensive on that as well.

8) again, opinions are being shove down our throats. why not i just randomly say omg bible black is like, must see as its the epitome of hentai and you must watch it, surely everyone got like 20minutes to spare for the first episode or some random compiled youtube recaps am i right? its like watching hentai but never knowing its lolwut roots or w/e. (making this shit up, but you *SHOULD* get the idea)
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Speaking of Dubs.. What dont just try looking for English Sub series over the internet.. Or Are u an american who watching Toonami Cartoon Network or something..


despite my over-emphasis of:
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2) i dont watch dubs

3) i dont watch dubs

4) did i say i dont watch dubs yet? yeah i dont watch dubs.


im still amazed and dazed at how you can even say that. oh well ill just pretend i didnt even saw that sentence.


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QUOTE(wolfx @ May 7 2008, 01:48 PM)
Hmm so its just an issue of old school animation vs new? Well if you could overlook those small things and prefer a good story instead, you should try :

(i dunno them by the year names....so you'll have to do with the sub-titles)

1.) Gundam 8th MS Team
2.) Gundam Stardust Memory
3.) Gundam War In The Pocket

The animation is on par with today (except war in the pocket which looks abit old skool) and the stories are engaging. You should go check those out if you wanna start off. I don't recommend MSG and Zeta for newbies though...might turn you off with the old skool-ness and "mobile suit battle of the week" sorta plots.
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if you cant pick up from my posts, im pretty much lazy to dig through old stuffs just because its epic lol. and the way these guys are going its totally unconvincing at all lmao.

if you still got the torrent links of jap dub eng sub of the series you posted, mind pm'ing me then? else i really couldnt be bothered lurking around for it. unless im seriously damn free, which im not, still building my kyrios gunpla XD

appreciate your good intentions though thumbup.gif


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and i also did explain remastering isnt gonna do miracles right?

polishing/repainting/retuning/overhauling (lol remastering it yoz!) a proton, it will still end up being a proton. get it?

and no, i dont entirely shun old animes for the sole reason of them being old. ive even watch patlabor anime in english/malay/cantonese dubs (lol malay dubs) when i was a little kodomo. but does that mean i still have to cling on to it forever? no right? animes get better, life moves on. just as simple as that for me.

first you said:
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Recent new mechas are overrated anyway, with all those epilepsy-inducing rainbow colours and flashes.

then you say:
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Zakus are overrated, so what? People love them... and they are selling like hot cakes.


your not really being convincing btw. im not sold at least smile.gif
while my usage of comparison can be rather flawed, but you claiming one thing being overatted, and when pointed out another obviously overrated example you just brush it off like that? dont know bout you but its easily viewed as a biased opinion, dont you think?

for the oversensitive and defensive part, i dont know bout you, but im really easy going around AS as its just animu and its solely for entertainment. you dont see me go around AS threads shoving opinions down people's throat. perhaps i am really oversensitive and defensive, but at the very least i dont go around barricading gundam 00 or any AU gundams in this gundam thread. True this is a gundam thread, but when everything is being biased and one sided, you might as well rename the thread of that majority biased side. no offense but its what been going on for a long while for 2 version of this so called "gundam thread".

hell, if you havent noticed how this new mess started, im merely joking about theres no "tomino elitists" around here and people just start taking up arms and flame on. doh.gif doh.gif
and oh, trying for the 2nd time to ask any decent moon-readers to confirm if theres any possible productions of the 00 side stories. what i get? UC IS SUPERIAH doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ May 7 2008, 09:42 PM)
.......... I dont really see any point with all these at all.

I think this thread is better off being pictures, small talk and on demand Gundam anime.. since everything else is just leads to flame wars..

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if this is /b/ i wouldnt disagree, however last i checked, this isnt. unfortunately.


Added on May 7, 2008, 9:59 pmthis is why i try to not step foot into translator tools:

独自開発された機動兵器「ガンダム」。 Mobile weapons developed by the "Gundam".
それを所有する「ソレスタルビーイング」は、 It owns a "SORESUTARUBIINGU",
長い時間をかけてガンダムを開発した。 Gundam long time to develop.

この物語は、天才科学者イオリア・シュヘンベルグの理念に共感し、 This story is genius Aeolian SHUHENBERUGU scientists to identify concepts,
自分たちの青春をかけてガンダムを開発した男たちの物語である。 Their youth on the development of Gundam story of the men.

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how about... no.

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and thus my brain continues to bleed:
Resonance RUIDO
"GANDAMUASUTOREA" Meister. 男性。 Male. 25歳。 25 years old. 技術者としても高い技能を有するため、ガンダムの開発に参加することになった。 As a high technology skills to participate in the development of Gundam him. パイロットとしても人並み以上の能力を持つが、「人と戦う」ことに積極的ではない。 As a pilot with a capacity of more than everyone else, "fight" is not especially aggressive.

Shar AKUSUTIKA
Chall Acustica Chall Acustica
女性。 Female. 16歳。 16. 若くしてヴェーダによってその技能を認められガンダムマイスターとなった。 Veda skills of the young man recognized as GANDAMUMAISUTA. 「武力による紛争の根絶」という高い理想と、目の前の現実の狭間で苦しむ。 "Eradication of armed conflict," the highest ideal and the reality in front of the vulnerabilities suffer. 『00F』にも登場する。 The 00 F, which also appeared.

Marlene Brady
Marlene Vlady Marlene Vlady
女性。 Female. 25歳。 25 years old. 元犯罪者であり、ガンダムのテスト中以外は、常に拘束された状態に置かれている。 And former criminals, but in Gundam test is always placed in detention in the state. 自らをガンダムのパーツと称する。 Gundam parts of their own to claim. パイロットとしての技術は高いが、思想的に多くの問題をはらむメンバーだ。 The pilot of the technology is high, many ideologically problematic members.

874 GANDAMUMAISUTA
Gundam Meister874 Gundam Meister874
「ガンダムサダルスード」のマイスター。 "GANDAMUSADARUSUDO" Meister. 十代前半の若い外見だが、実際の年齢は不明。 The early appearance of a young teen, but the actual age is unknown. 名前もコード番号の「874」で呼ばれる。 The names of the code number "874" called. モニターを介してのみメンバー前に姿を現す謎の多いマイスター。 Only through the monitor make an appearance before members of the many mysteries of Meister.

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ May 8 2008, 11:07 AM)
Machine translation is crap.

This is what it says:

(The) independently developed mobile weapon [gundam].

The (organization) CELESTIAL BEING which possesses it spent a lot of time to develop it.

This tale is about the young men who believed in genius scientist Aeolia Schenberg's ideals and spent their lives developing the Gundam.
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i know right? been trying to find people that could do decent jap text translation to have a lookout if there are any hints or indications of 00 side story productions. the news site is just announcement of the alt storylines websites being put up.

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