not an action anime, hard to excel graphics/sound department

setsuna is legal now so very possible for setsuna x marina (previously hes 16 LOL MARINA -> JAIL?!?!?)

but umm afaik it seems that post trans-am effects is just depleting ur gn drive, not really lesser specifications... more like if ur gonna fly at high speed or do more gn bazooka nukes and ur balance power of the drive doesnt permits after trans-am. take virtue's trans-am for example, press trans-am battaannnn > gn bazooka dump > win sauce. and just stood there idle (prolly completely depleted?)

true if they are having ambitious personality and have their mask just for the sake of having a mask. but graham's character is totally not that and its seriously forced on. (though i suppose if hes gonna be fugly after the explosin i guess its all good)

personally, exia's stabbing is justifiable, it matches his emotional/irrational personality. and alejandro is *supposedly* the "last boss". cept shit hits the fan when graham went in gung-ho against exia out of no where.

in regards to code geass, im mainly referring to the lanced gn-x. its ALMOST the same as the knightmares/default britania mechs with the lance and all. only main difference is that the gn-x are more humanoid like while the knightmare chest/cockpit area is totally squary.

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Added on April 1, 2008, 1:32 amwell it does match i suppose, the age difference between marina and setsuna is ALMOST 10 years apart anyways. (16 setsuna vs 24 marina)

!!

28 years old marina... boobs?

???



This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 1 2008, 01:32 AM

they did mentioned that, but im not sure if it applies to season2

pretty much what im gonna said has been said. but ill go for it anyways.

personally i cant see how plot is suffering when they re-did the gundam wing style multi-POV storytelling over the conventional 1 hero rapes main guy rapes all story-telling. while i havent being involved with any UC gundams, but no matter how you see it, old story is old, but to each its own on this. you may like your UC, with the one hero and all, and the classic char bad-ass with amuro ray w/e, but personally, i would prefer something thats "refreshing" and new. thats how anime/stories/plots/movies ETC ETC gets better, by having their bars raised, trying out something new. if it fails, too bad, if it doesnt, you get a whole new experience of enjoyment and that raises the bar yet again.




now, i dont know why patrick being "insignificant" would even be a huge deal because lets face it, in a war based setting storyline, if your gonna give every damn person significance in the plot you'll have a whole lot to tell that will prolly drag the damn episodes to like 30-40, and that said, you'll be having a damn storybook instead of the "gundam actions" where every one love, and is one of the main reasons why people adore/like gundams. (at least for me, i certainly dont watch gundams to hear people storytelling to no end over the course of 20-40 episodes)

Soma peires on the other hand, i dont know if your even watching the whole gundam 00 series thoroughly/seriously, or your just too blinded by the critisism that your gonna put out from the very beginning of the series. (fair enough it starts out a little slow for gundam 00, but the way you've been posting since first ep until now has all been negative posts.) I mean, we all know shes related with the HRL secret super soldiers division, and that shes "Mai". Which in turn was mentioned in earlier episodes briefly, during the super soldiers part with the main focus on allelujah. While not thorough, its not "never elaborated" either.

personally, i dont see whats the big deal of "if its not significant in season 1 but season 2, save it for season2". take gundam seed or the other gundam series for example, they ALL run for around and/or over 50 episodes. Why is it ok for those while it isnt ok for gundam 00 to take a break and with that given time, they can maintain the quality or even raise the bar over the course. (which is what happens from episode 1-25, every episode kept getting better and better, EVEN the recap episode wasnt so bad compared to other anime or gundam's recap episodes) if you ask me, i would say its all biased critics.



first half of the series its pretty much "wasting screen time" as many claims, or just comedy relief, but as it progresses throughout the series and especially the epilogue, im fairly surprised you can even claim that they are just "comedy bits". Kinue/Kinoe? played a role in revealing CB's agenda/truth, while in the story perspective itself it didnt reveal anything, but as the viewers perspective, im even more surprised in you saying that there is no point to have her around at all.


admittedly the last ep was a lil rushed, and it doesnt give the old "GAR"ham feel everyone adores, and worse, a mask. But all in all, the played his part in the plot, and paved the way for season2, while it isnt perfect, it isnt entirely a bad thing either. But again, opinions wary as im personally not so much of a fan of graham.


With the main plot of laguna/ragna/lagna (however you wanna spell it as afaik theres no official name source in this) harvey, and alejandro corner, with ali al sarches, i cant see how they are a complete mess. Again, if ur so biased to ignore the plot entirely, i will just leave it at that.



Im not sure if its just your preference in art or your just too used to the old dulled art of UC gundams/old classic gundams, but double 00 its in HD, and obviously they are gonna take advantage of it. While for the most part its what you claimed, but personally I cant see the "clean-ness" on episode 1 when setsuna was a young boy in a warzone, or the gundam battles for that matter. and most certainly, not cheerful. The only thing that matches your claimings are the saji/louise scenes when they are in the city/space station, but i mean, lets be honest here, the entire world of gundam 00 isnt a war-torn situation, its a cold war, not everywhere around the world is fighting, to make those scenes "un-clean" and "war-like" is just too unrealistic.

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Added on April 2, 2008, 11:31 amim definitely all in for that

they could've made a much more epic battle for graham, and even put somemore footage out before the epic epilogue

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Added on April 2, 2008, 11:33 amas ive mentioned somewhere around this forum/thread, i rate an entire anime with almost aspect be it graphics or sound, and if im gonna watch the old series, i will critisize it as heavily as you are because, its an old anime and the graphics/sounds are gonna suck, or the fact that me watching multiple episodes of that said entire episode being about people talking back and forth for the sake of storyline having 0 action.

to be fair, they are old animes, and thats that. comparing pentium 3 against a core 2 duo is just, futile.

again, to each its own perhaps.

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Added on April 2, 2008, 11:38 amagain, whats needed to be said is said and done, but just to briefly going off topic a bit in regards to transformer live-action:

personally, i think its a good show, if there were NO TRANSFORMER ANIME OR W/E to begin with, its a decently epic show that gets prolly 8-9 outta me. but if i were to compare it with the original transformer where i loved a lot when i was a kid, i totally, utterly, hate it.

thats why ive ALWAYS mentioned especially in this thread. no point to really compare things all the time, you'll prolly enjoy a particular anime/movie/show etc more if you just watch it for being itself and not being shadowed by something else. some simple figure speak, would you enjoy a television series more with you just watching it, or having someone standing in front of you blocking half of your tv. if you can get that good, if not, forget it.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 2 2008, 11:38 AM

so like, was there any part in the quote of my post mentioning that your review is "WRONG WRONG WRONG"? but shoving off all sort of rasional pointers believing that uc is like the only gundam series out there isnt any right either. if you think im just saying i think its good and telling you that you think its bad, arent YOU doing the same to EVERYONE ELSE?



so a 80+ episode lengthy gundam novel on ur tv. whenever the producers and all decided that its possible to happen, let me know about it, until then, im cool with the standard cramping up of series to fit a general appeal.

ill requote myself:

1) let me ask you, if there were NO FIGHTING NO ACTION AT ALL in gundam, would you watch it? (considering its war and all and thats impossible lmao)
2) aside that, i did mentioned that its one of the main reasons why people like gundam, not the only reason
3) mind stop putting words in my mouth claiming that i said me = everyone? i did said AT LEAST for me, in a personal point of view, i dont watch gundams just for the sake of storyline. i do like gundams with good storyline, but i watch for other reasons too. in other words, i demand a good balance. eg: AWESOME graphics, but plot shittier than a 5 year old kindergarden story = no. AWESOME plot, even more interesting than an encyclopedia book, but graphics is worse than a 5 year old kindergarden artbook = no.

my point being with soma, allelujah and hrl is that they are significant, and they play an important role throughout the anime. im pretty much disagreeing with you that they are insignificant and should be replaced with something else, had they not been in the anime we would prolly never know jack about HRL and the whole super soldiers deal. (though ironically you were b****ing a lot about lack of elaborated plots at the same time)




personally i think the series is actually responding to the fewer episodes. In case you havent noticed, comparing to the previous gundam series (like you guys always love to do so), its BLOATED with a lot of pointless scenes/dorama/shallow plots, and worse, repeated copy-pasta scenes such as the battle scenes etc.

as i said, i demand a balance of good everything, not just action, not just plot, not just graphics. so again, mind not putting words in my mouth? to each its own in what they prefer in their gundam series, but shoving your preference into others aint so right in my book.

honestly speaking, if they wanna shove in recaps in 00, they could easily do so. if you just STOP THINKING about gundam 00 being 25 episode and consider it a 52+ episode combining season1 and 2, they could just fill in 2-4 recaps and what not there and then. 25 episodes is already have a series (using previous traditions) and theres only ONE recap episode. just that alone its quite a big improvement making room for so many other better things.

dont see how that isnt proving anything.



and dont you think its a lil contradicting when most novels/anime/movies does that? think of it as a narrator, why have one when a viewer can just watch the damn thing?



Does every damn character needs to have a leading role in anything? you could always consider lagna a mere tool (which he is) to distribute the GN-X and once that purpose is served hes disposable. The thrones are also something similiar, except they held more of a role in terms of executing lagna's own plans and agendas, or rather alejandro's agendas. how is THAT a complete mess then? probably personal opinons in this so ill just leave this at that as well.

Lets just put it this way, what you're accusing me, in reflection you're doing pretty much the same thing. While you find my posts have little fact to prove my point, in which i clearly do not find so as my posts are pointing how your post are in contradiction of whats actually happening in gundam 00. perhaps i take gundam 00 a lil too seriously and see the whole storyline/plot much clearer than you? or perhaps your just being biased as i claimed, who knows.

just to set things straight, i dont mind people critisizing the series that i enjoy, movies or animes w/e. what i do mind is when their critics are biased or are in contradiction with the actual content they are critisizing. eg: "gundam 00 plot is zero", which is obviously false.

1) gundam sure as hell isnt a technical documentary
2) because assumingly gundam action is always there and it is ONE OF THE MANY REASONS people watch gundam for. so personally i think its fair to include gundam actions for everyone.
3) all in all your still just relentlessly biting at how the post was made and not the actual content itself, for shame. but whats needed to be said is all said and done, no point to beat on the dead horse further.



again, its not that im not liking your review, but as wolf said, when your review is just too negative/biased and having so many contradictions to the actual anime itself, no way im gonna let it by. its like how metro is reporting anime = cartoon lucah. you gonna accept that?

whether season2 will cover what season1 left off, its up to season 2 to decide so i wont even elaborate it until 6 months later.


you just dont get my example do you? if no then i wont even bother anymore



thrones were deployed and under command by lagna, how could i be evading it at all?

if you want my honest words - yes i like gundam 00 a lot because its no way like the old classics/previous gundams, and yes i do see you as a typical ucfanboy bashing any other gundams out there. but does that mean i have to go fanboy vs fanboy and end up in a flamewar? honestly it takes both hands to make a clap, if you know what i mean.

and as i said many many times before, i really dont mind you critisizing gundam00 to no end, but when your being too utterly biased and being ignorant of whats actually happening and just twist it to what YOU see happening, i dont let go of that.

again, takes both hands to make a clap, hope you realize that.

well, i dont have any idea (to be honest i probably do but ill keep it to myself) why both you (well not really you, just redeye at this point) cannot accept me and/or wolf, or even the other gundam 00 fans/viewer's views about gundam 00's strong points, or rather, "correction" of what has been pointed wrong of said weak points. see the similiarities here?

again, dont get me wrong, im not really into outright critisizing red's critics either. im more towards pointing out whats been "wrongly critisized", if you will. no one's really changing anyone's minds, well, perhaps there is but im not gonna go into that either.

honestly speaking though, arent you the one trying to change our minds with a claim like: "but maybe it's time to remove 00 from that holy pedestal", why not removing uc from that said holy pedestial? see where this is getting to?

ok im a complete noob on gunpla, so any guidance? im looking to collect the 4 original meisters gundam, preferably the biggest scaled model. (my last gunpla was the gundam X models and virsago was the biggest one that costed rm80-90+, was a present from my uncle and spent few hours to choose lol! i was a kodomo back then )

sweet much thanks ^^

not to be lazy and derailing the thread a bit here, but the hobby section is driving me @_@

so like, for a complete noobie, that has no time, but wants to own an exia/kyrios/virtue/dynames on his pc shelf, im assuming.... NG 1/100 or 1/60 would be the perfect choice?

prefers to use the provided stickers (like my last gundam x virsago) over the need to friggin paint my gundam.

any pointers?

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whats panel lining lol >_<
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last OT:

i R poisoned.

I AM GUNDAM!

(spent RM400 for all 4 suits rofl... just to discover TRAP virtue is mega trap cuz other shops selling rm18 cheaper T_T.................................)

went berjaya times square to buy...
rm 90 for kyrios
rm80 x2 for exia and dynames
rm150 for virtue

/QQ

well they should be finish in a few months... lol... between study, work, anime, world of warcraft, self patting good luck gambateh.... XD~

thats my only excuse and deception

menclave is the best, in terms of translation, encoding quality, or rather, everything.

shinsen comes a close second but their hd releases are almost as good, cept the translation accuracy especially when it comes to naming can be a little off (vader anyone?)

nyoron is entirely fail. guesslation is wrong and fail.

personally i think they are good, (i could be biased, cuz im a staff of em LOL! useless one though ) cept they tend to race through gundam 00 and speedsub it over quality

model stores sold em for rm132...

yes f***en tieria, DAMN TRAP.

(tempted to use a marker to cross out his face on my virtue box >_<)

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speakin of him, you guys think its tieria at the epilogue, or the much speculated female version of the "innovator" clones?

if you pay attention to the "hmm" done by him/her, it does have a female tone, and the credits does hint abnout that (mentioned by people around here/elsewhere)

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 4 2008, 08:24 AM

sigh all we can do is theorize and speculate... and 6 months of painful wait. i sure as hell hope geass would be just as good if not BETTER than gundam 00 so the wait would be pleasant

you'll be surprised. but eh we can spend the 6months flooding this thread with random and BS double oh speculations LOL!