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 Gandum V6, ガンダム (Gandamu)

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post Mar 19 2008, 10:08 PM

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Flag like fighters... with todays technology its aint gonna happend..

Flags and airplane is like throwing a gundam action figure in the air and a paper plane.. see who crash first..

I think mecha will more likely be Ground support units like Tieren..
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post Mar 19 2008, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Mar 19 2008, 10:17 PM)
See you space cowboy.


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Imho the 'hand-grasping-earth' would've been much more impact just with him showing a middle finger to it. Then again to be able to hold himself from doing that shows how much matured he is then the rest of the emomiesters.

QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 19 2008, 11:19 PM)
Flag like fighters... with todays technology its aint gonna happend..

Flags and airplane is like throwing a gundam action figure in the air and a paper plane.. see who crash first..

I think mecha will more likely be Ground support units like Tieren..
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Guntank anyone?

chop a tank. put in a body like frame + 2 hydraulic actuators (to control the cannon) plus 2 robotic arm to hold anti personal guns = profit
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QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Mar 19 2008, 11:41 PM)
Imho the 'hand-grasping-earth' would've been much more impact just with him showing a middle finger to it. Then again to be able to hold himself from doing that shows how much matured he is then the rest of the emomiesters.
Guntank anyone?

chop a tank. put in a body like frame + 2 hydraulic actuators (to control the cannon) plus 2 robotic arm to hold anti personal guns = profit
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post Mar 20 2008, 12:23 AM

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err... A guntank unit isnt exactly what a today Army would want..

I mean is if you wanted mobile artillery then this is doing the trick..

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A huge ass guntank is just gonna be magnet for Air attacks and counter battery.. so.. no
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post Mar 20 2008, 12:26 AM

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by da way...how does Ali al-sarghes know how to use Fangs when he just only captured the Throne Gundam??!!
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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Mar 20 2008, 12:26 AM)
by da way...how does Ali al-sarghes know how to use Fangs when he just only captured the Throne Gundam??!!
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its anime dude..too much logic spoils the entertainment blush.gif
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 19 2008, 11:19 PM)
Flag like fighters... with todays technology its aint gonna happend..

Flags and airplane is like throwing a gundam action figure in the air and a paper plane.. see who crash first..

I think mecha will more likely be Ground support units like Tieren..
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if they dun make their mecha fast enough and it walks like a snail! It is better off driving a tank! And if u remember the first episode of OO those Enact arent really good in air fighting! The current fighter jets
can take them down in a sec! Missile log on Fox2 engage! and boom down come a Enact!

QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Mar 20 2008, 12:26 AM)
by da way...how does Ali al-sarghes know how to use Fangs when he just only captured the Throne Gundam??!!
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The answer is Gundam is fiction!
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 20 2008, 12:23 AM)
err... A guntank unit isnt exactly what a today Army would want..

I mean is if you wanted mobile artillery then this is doing the trick..

http://www.armyrecognition.com/europe/Sued...tillery_001.jpg

A huge ass guntank is just gonna be magnet for Air attacks and counter battery.. so.. no
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hmm.. how about a hildolfr ? tongue.gif
it's more kick ass compared to the guntank... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 20 2008, 12:23 AM)
err... A guntank unit isnt exactly what a today Army would want..

I mean is if you wanted mobile artillery then this is doing the trick..

A huge ass guntank is just gonna be magnet for Air attacks and counter battery.. so.. no
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meh. Any artillery unit definitely exposed to constant air attacks and counter battery raeps as its slow moving. The truck shurly looks sturdy, bullet proof glass (most probabbly) and strong tire. But how about the axle? Wonder the truck did really see any action in any (balanced) war as the weakest part of it probably the axle and hence the guntank justification.

QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Mar 20 2008, 12:26 AM)
by da way...how does Ali al-sarghes know how to use Fangs when he just only captured the Throne Gundam??!!
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Dont really think its really hard to use it. Heres how i pictared it.

1) Aim target
2) target lock
3) push fang buttans
4) let the OS do dynamic flying pattern of the individual fangs
5) Profit
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guys, any idea how season 2 gonna be? until now, season 1 is great IMO. great graphic, action and the plot is getting clearer and more interesting. I wonder what they would do in season 2.. mayb saji become an evil dude and start shooting ppl around with a gundam... hmmm
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by da way...how does Ali al-sarghes know how to use Fangs when he just only captured the Throne Gundam??!!
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maybe they is a manual in the Gundam itself.. but what iam more concern is a few things..

How is Ali going to get his Gundam fixed... remember CB techno is like way way ahead from the 3 nation.. So how get parts of chonbus??

That black flag fighter getting emo on the wrong MS... Had he not forget that the Gundam that Ali was having was the one who killed Howard... so why is he getting all kamikaze vs Dynames..

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if they dun make their mecha fast enough and it walks like a snail! It is better off driving a tank! And if u remember the first episode of OO those Enact arent really good in air fighting! The current fighter jets
can take them down in a sec! Missile log on Fox2 engage! and boom down come a Enact!


I dont propose a air ground macross mecha.. How about a mere 3 storey mecha like front mission.. where the role of the mecha along with support from Helicopters, Tanks and infantry.

Maybe i open another thread to dicuss about this futher.

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meh. Any artillery unit definitely exposed to constant air attacks and counter battery raeps as its slow moving. The truck shurly looks sturdy, bullet proof glass (most probabbly) and strong tire. But how about the axle? Wonder the truck did really see any action in any (balanced) war as the weakest part of it probably the axle and hence the guntank justification.


The Archer system is still under prototype but plans of bringing it to real combat is comming.

Its small which can be easily conceal with basic camoflage unlike a guntank, its way imposible to camo and this thing is pretty fast you know... If iam not mistaken the speed of 70 km/h which can quickly displace if counter battery occur..

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hmm.. how about a hildolfr ? tongue.gif
it's more kick ass compared to the guntank... whistling.gif


Maybe i should explain why the Hildolfr was rejected by the Zeon.. You see the Hildolfr is a overly specialize MS which require alot of Gunnery Skill. Why it peform so well in the show was the pilot was the last of the Gunner age soldier. Zeon phase out all Gunner training into pilot in favor of close range and hit and run combat.

Also the Targeting system data was never completed.. The pilot died so they would be no way to tell wether its compete or will suit any other pilot... Also the Doms was a more feasible MS during the time.

Anyway my comment on Gundam 00 episode 23 is..

I dont see the point injuring lockon on the last few episode just to would be kill him again.. Its like the producer is teasing us or something.

Lockon dead?? helmet got hole?? NOTTT he alive with eye patch
Lockon Dead for real?? He blewn away from Big Ass cannon?? welll FIND Out wether we really killed him off by watching all 3 episode and wait for half a year for 2nd season and mangas.. and "maybe" he come back to live
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QUOTE(Gravity @ Mar 20 2008, 02:40 AM)
guys, any idea how season 2 gonna be? until now, season 1 is great IMO. great graphic, action and the plot is getting clearer and more interesting. I wonder what they would do in season 2.. mayb saji  become an evil dude and start shooting ppl around with a gundam... hmmm
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no idea wat will happen at all! But i am more interested on wat may happen on the anime tat take over Gundam OO season1! Code Geass Season 2!
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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Mar 20 2008, 02:51 AM)
I dont propose a air ground macross mecha.. How about a mere 3 storey mecha like front mission.. where the role of the mecha along with support from Helicopters, Tanks and infantry.
well the front mission mecha does makes more sense compared to gundam, as the MS are too freaking huge , a mere sidewinder missile from the jet fighter will definately take down or atleast stop it from functioning properly

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Maybe i should explain why the Hildolfr was rejected by the Zeon.. You see the Hildolfr is a overly specialize MS which require alot of Gunnery Skill. Why it peform so well in the show was the pilot was the last of the Gunner age soldier. Zeon phase out all Gunner training into pilot in favor of close range and hit and run combat.

Also the Targeting system data was never completed.. The pilot died so they would be no way to tell wether its compete or will suit any other pilot... Also the Doms was a more feasible MS during the time.
thats why...i think we're still in the gunner age right? with all the tanks and ground to air battery etc.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tsubasa89 @ Mar 20 2008, 11:54 AM)
well the front mission mecha does makes more sense compared to gundam, as the MS are too freaking huge , a mere sidewinder missile from the jet fighter will definately take down or atleast stop it from functioning properly
thats why...i think we're still in the gunner age right? with all the tanks and ground to air battery etc.... tongue.gif
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Dun even mention those Air jet Missile even those station Missile launcher can take those MS out if they are within range! maybe we will get the Minovsky Particle to prevent radar and other communication from functioning! Then we get to see those MS in action when no missile can log on to them! Then Air Jet will be useless!

By far we should not look too far away, the closest to us will be those Giant Air Fortress like Ace Combat and Huge Canon or satellite weapon!
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Giant Air Fortress like Ace Combat and Huge Canon or satellite weapon!


Err... Such huge ass flying machines will go down easily with Balistic Missles like Tomahawk..

Well they could equip CIWS into these mecha to counter missle in open warare and they could take cover into buildings for Urban combat.

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