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 Gandum V6, ガンダム (Gandamu)

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post Oct 6 2008, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Oct 6 2008, 08:42 PM)
Something tells me that Louise had a mindhax put in her. Notice her eyes when Exia appeared? Couple that with the Tic-Tacs she downed at the end and her statement of her head hurting.
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hmm nice observation, though it seemed like just computer screen glare or something XD

well time will tell for sure!
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post Oct 6 2008, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(Setsuna-san @ Oct 6 2008, 09:10 PM)
There you said it. 5 year old junk. Is it any wonder it is not in top form? Maybe trans am malfunctioned, or has been damaged since last war.
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the whole point was to at least see exia put up a fight, be it trans-am or no trans-am (and the way it went it seemed that trans-am is the only way)
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post Oct 7 2008, 02:56 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 01:22 AM)
My verdict for the episode. W-o-W. But i'm still not expecting much. Remember Destiny? That was pretty wow too that quickly disipated. We'll see how it goes. Some points to make:

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post Oct 7 2008, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Oct 7 2008, 05:51 AM)
why did i saw ribbon and wang liu mei(sp?) met at the end of ep?
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wang liu mei is "neutral"
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post Oct 7 2008, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 10:11 AM)
Exia has a ECS Stealh like in Full Metal Panic ma. tongue.gif

The real question is how Exia survived the explosion when fighting with GN Flag.
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he did have stealth mechanism back on earth, full optical camouflage, assumingly radar-side as well.

now, a better question would be how the hell exia got back his head, and parts to fix the "rather big" hole on the cockpit tongue.gif
after the explosion, it was shown that exia is still in one piece with setsuna alive and well in the cockpit, with the whole emo letter with marina ismail.
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post Oct 7 2008, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 11:03 AM)
End of ep 1 they showed the single 0 gundam....wonder if they will ever use that.
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over 5 years (assuming, 6-7+? ) .... prolly not. that O gundam iinm is the gundam that showed up in episode1?

they stripped its gn drive for gundam 00.
then finally exia's for the 2nd drive (remember CB only got 5 drives)
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post Oct 7 2008, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Oct 7 2008, 11:20 AM)
5 original drive + 1 fake drive..
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you mean, a billion fake drives or some shit? LOL
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post Oct 7 2008, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Aoshi_88 @ Oct 7 2008, 11:40 AM)
I miss Sumeragi and Chris in bikinis. <3
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RIP CHRIS


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QUOTE(Setsuna-san @ Oct 7 2008, 12:30 PM)
The O gundam will be the final suit to be used in the anime, after 00 has been destroyed by a superior suit and the GN drive of O salvaged and restored back in O Gundam.

The O Gundam should have some serious hax built in it by Aeolia.

just some speculations.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mobil...GN-000_0_Gundam

lol send that junk in battle and you're so begging to get wtfpwned.

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post Oct 7 2008, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Oct 7 2008, 03:06 PM)
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for the lol..
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on the DVD mis-sub:

"teach you how to become a gundam"


Added on October 7, 2008, 3:20 pm
QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 03:12 PM)
No way.....CB is a specialised highly advanced force....that pwns everyone else....i dun want it to be like just another army faction.
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yea same thoughts here too

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post Oct 7 2008, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 04:39 PM)
Dem sakit weh....damage the kit until like that. ><''
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wow... respect is all i can say lol. srsly go and dmg the exia XD
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post Oct 7 2008, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Exiled_Gundam @ Oct 7 2008, 04:49 PM)
Naah that amount of damage is considered ok lah in hobbies section, coz that Exia wasnt even an MG;its price is RM 76 only wat (not expensive for us in hobbies section tongue.gif ). But if the battle damage is done on a PG (and on exp PG like GP01 summore), then we all goes  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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true also hehe
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post Oct 7 2008, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Setsuna-san @ Oct 7 2008, 05:34 PM)
were you sleeping throughout the episode? As i remember it there were tons of shit blowing up and Exia got pwned. Not enough action for a first EP?
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i lol'ed this tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Demon_Eyes_Kyo @ Oct 7 2008, 05:39 PM)
Where the fake drive come from?
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season 1, traitors


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QUOTE(Tsukasa @ Oct 7 2008, 05:56 PM)
got 5 original solar furnace only ?? Thought the original is green colour. Then what is running their mothership as i can see at least min 4 solar furnace. lolx. And whats the difference original and ciplak. Is it Transarm mode only or issit same design but one made in japan and one made in China.. lol.
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yes only 5.

the one running on their mothership could be turbines or what not as mentioned by wolfx, or a different version of the gn drive unit that isnt mobile suit compatible. it DOES release gn particles though (based on s1 episodes, that the mothership is untrackable. and it HAS to refuel to the mobile suits' drives from the ship itself so assumingly the mothership has gn drives/generators.

the main difference, afaik from the anime series are:

1) trans-am on the originals
2) color difference
3) the fake drives emit more energy/power/strength, however, due to that assumingly, the drives run out of power quick and needs recharging more oftenly. the original drives however, are pretty much unlimited so long they do not overdrive it via trans-am
4) the fake drives produces harsh radiation too, louise fell to such tragic fate as her arm cannot be "regrowth" (future medical tech assumption) thanks to some form of radiation (the fake GN drive)
5) explosion caused from destroyed drive malfunction/destruction is also higher on the fakes, as graham died (based on confirmation from producers interview, however, it could be just his personality died, since we got a new graham look alike masked guy) while setsuna is entirely unharmed, and his drive is intact.

the rest, if not covered here, prolly should look up google/wiki or 4chan's /m/ as aoshi mentioned


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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 06:04 PM)
If its like the old Ptoleimos however u spell it....those are just emitters/turbines. The GN drives are held only by the Gundams that's why at least 1 Gundam must remain on the ship to charge it, whenever they are sent for long term missions on earth. I think they mention the ship can have limited operational time of a few days if all the gundams are away from the ship.
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its the otherway around, the ship charges the gundams.
watch the ending episodes of S1 where the meisters spam trans-am, they have to recharge it in the ship, where the ship is basically unlimited with multiple drives/generator.

of course, IINM a limited operational time was mentioned and the ship did went to docks multiple times, so based on that, it could be just some sort of emiter etc as you said. but it still uses gn particles.

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 07:24 PM)
so based on that, the gn drives magically power themselves back? tongue.gif

during trans-am spammage the drives are always on full time drained. (the only one gettin away with it is exia/setsuna's plot drive LOL)
not sure bout the reliability of that gundam wiki, but wikipedia.org written arrows as "a-laws" lol tongue.gif
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hmm what shit, even menclave are using a-laws, IINM wasnt there some official source giving out info on "arrows" before s2 start?
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post Oct 7 2008, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 09:59 PM)
Uhhh....GN Drives are perpetual energy meaning they cannot run out. They cannot be depleted. For TRANS-AM, they use up more GN particles than the GN drive can produce to replace fast enough, that's why they become sucky after TRANS-AM and require the GN drive to recharge its GN particles before the Gundam is at optimal performance again. We already know this much from season 1.

Assumption:
I'm guessing because its called a Solar Furnace, its some form of super solar energy feeding off solar flares and solar winds. So as long as there is a sun, the GN drive will never run out of power.

As for ARROWS vs A-LAWS....the model kits apparently wrote it as A-LAWS and that's why subbers used that. I think the debate is still on on how they romanised the word, though i admit A-LAW sounds more retarded than ARROWS.
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yeah could be as you said, it is called solar furnace after all so prolly just compressed solar energy or some sort. (s1 emphasized on the solar orbital towers after all)

for the arrows part, retarded or not, i remembered faintly there were official sources writing "a-laws" as "arrows". if its really "a-laws" i could care less if its retarded (though seriously its pretty damn retarded LOL) and ah thanks for pointing out. didnt realize the model kits already putting out "official" names on "a-laws".

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regarding the gn drive charging though, "feeding solar energy" can take time, and in the heat of battle, you'd want a faster way to charge it back up, hence the mothership. although you can prolly argue/assume that its the gundams' gn drive's stored energy, being returned back to the gundams should the need to charge after a trans-am usage.

(referring in particular, kyrios and virtue [later on nadleeh as its outer armor was damaged] using trans-am, docked ship, few minutes later trans-am again, despite kyrios AND virtue's gn drive meter clearly showing the drive being emptied)

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post Oct 7 2008, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 10:46 PM)
There's actually no argument. I'm quite sure the Gundams power the Ptoleimos as its mentioned in one episode. They were rationalising why there is always one Gundam Meister on board during long on-planet missions where the other 3 Gundams will be stationed somewhere on earth. They don't need Ptoleimos to recharge the GN particles....they just need to stick around and it charges itself.

I don't think the ship acts as a quick-charger since it doesn't have any engine of its own
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it could be that the ship has a storage capacity and it can "quick charge the gn drives up". as the drive itself doesnt fill up quick especially after a trans-am usage lol.
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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 7 2008, 11:58 PM)
mebbe...i have to rewatch that scene though i think they just refitted nadleeh, not give him a recharge.
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kyrios was unscarred wut, shouldnt need to dock. and the mothership was no where in danger of "low power" while the fight lasted fairly long, with gn fields up and evasive maneuvers. (or was it mentioned at all AFAIK)

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the last 2-3 episodes i watched like 4-7 times per episode LOL (especially last ep)
just love the BGM and action scenes XD

so much it got me burning monies and got me into gunpla'ing

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 8 2008, 01:29 AM)
Just watched 23-25 skipping through. They all docked because the enemy retreated and they needed to refit/repair and get mission briefing from Sumeragi. No point they stay in outer space and wait for next battle which was 6 hours later, right? tongue.gif Its not because they needed to charge the GN drives. It just proves that it may take hours for the GN drives to charge up to optimum strength , making Trans-AM a very last resort weapon. ie: kill enemy within time limit or you're pwned.
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if you watch menclave, ep 23 13:44 tongue.gif
ep24 12:30, at least a form of storage system is confirmed, to resupply the gundams themselves if need be. and prolly due to that, the particle reserves got low, and they didnt even manage to put up a gn field to further minimize the dmg from alvatore's incoming beam?
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QUOTE(Setsuna-san @ Oct 8 2008, 07:43 AM)
Could A-Laws stand for Autonomous Laws? Since they enforce the law on their own accord and are a fairly autonomous group.
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could be, though its still pretty damn far fetched lol
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post Oct 8 2008, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(wolfx @ Oct 8 2008, 08:38 AM)
Yeah what bout it. Mine says "Performance has dropped until particle recharge". I already know that. Its charging but it doesn't prove it needs to go back to the Ptoleimos to do that.
No...that's just rerouting their energy to the 2nd turbine thingy because the other one is damaged so no point supplying power to it. There's no point to resupply the gundams since the Gundams themselves have more power than the Ptoleimos even post TRANS-AM.

Not sure why the concept is hard for you to grasp. Imagine a gundam GN drive is a bucket of water with a hose of water constantly filling it. The Ptoleimos is a cup of water which you fill from the bucket. When TRANS-AM is activated, its like pouring the water out of the bucket in a fast rate, faster than the hose filling it up. Once its empty, Gundam runs out of juice, but the hose is still filling it and the bucket will be full in due time. So how is the cup gonna help by pouring its pathetic amount of water into the bucket? Seems counterproductive. If anything, the Gundams had to return to the Ptoleimos to charge it, not vice versa. So like taking the cup of water and fill it from the bucket, which makes more sense.
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im merely pointing out the fact that the mothership does have a storage for the gn particles (how else its able to move, assumingly that it doesnt have its own GN drive, when all the gundams are absent?)

the concept is simple:
they need more trans-am, the said bucket doesnt fills up as quick as they want, they draw it from the other bucket (which is the mothership) that is definitely capable of storing a fair ammount of said gn particles.

as you said, since they refill themselves, the mothership dont even need to spend that much of its stored gn particles. its only to speed up the process if anything.

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to further emphasize on this, you can think of the gn drives as just, generators. no storage capabilities while the gundam themselves store the produced particles. being a rather small unit, theres a limit of how much it is able to store. (never a problem at all before trans-am, just perma maxed LOL)

while the mothership, consider it a 'the bucket' that you were referring to, and when the gundams are docked, it just charges to it. and not really the mothership drawing from the mobilesuit's "bucket" as there is basically none.

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