QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ May 7 2008, 05:27 AM)
I don't do guys...

When did redeye start a flame war? We're all mature enough for meaningful discussions here, even though we don't agree in everything. That's what makes it fun, isn't it?
Bad dubs? OMG... why do you even bother watching dubs? SUBS for the win. Dubs are horrible... be it old UC or newer AU series. And don't complain about the "bad quality" animation. Try to get remastered versions and see how beautiful the pictures are. My 0080, 0083, and 08th MST are all remastered versions and they don't look inferior to any of the recent animes. Recent new mechas are overrated anyway, with all those epilepsy-inducing rainbow colours and flashes. Then again, I agree that it's not easy to find ancient Japanese dubs with good english subs; but it's not that hard either. Torrents may not necessary have enough seeds, but the local anime shop should have some copies. I almost succumbed to buying the original Zeta and Turn A series (60+ CDs !!) last year but in the end had to save money to buy my Zaku.

And yeah... preferring UC doesn't mean we are Tomino loyalists. In fact, I've never even watched Tomino's other works like Dunbine or Ideon and I don't intend to, at least in the near future. Still, I think all Gundam fans should at least know a bit about the original 0079 background story because it's what started this franchise. It's like living in Malaysia and not knowing who is Tunku Abdul Rahman. Hence I posted up the 2 vids on the last page so that everyone can know a bit about 0079... it's just 20 minutes, surely everyone has that 20 minutes to spare right? And yeah, that remade animation is top notch...
the speed you guys put up spiked barricades and start to unload a volley of lead never cease to amaze me. if you dont get it, im referring on how defensive you guys can get.
since im clearly mistaken by a long shot, ill clarify:
1) considering i did mentioned that redeye mentioning tomino elitist are getting him, its pretty safe to interpret it as THEY starting a flame way with him, not him (redeye) start a flame war.
2) i dont watch dubs
3) i dont watch dubs
4) did i say i dont watch dubs yet? yeah i dont watch dubs. and since im clarifying, i was referring how the majority of old animes are dubbed, and searching through them nets you dubbed animes more than original jap voice with english sub. HECK, the majority of UC w/e youtubes vid being posted in this thread (yes i do watch them time to time) ARE english dub. and the moment i see shitty english voice start shittin out, its immediately stop before ears + brains explode.
5) lets be damn serious here, remastered version or not, they sure aint no HD anime, and to compare recent animations with the past is seriously
until i see gundam 00/shakugan no shana s2/nabari no ou (and the long list goes on, just putting up some examples) level of animations done to the old gundams, im not convinced. theres only so much you can do on remastered version. and the main remastering is always the sound effects, hardly the animation itself as reproductions of an entire anime is not as easy as you think, and if they do that anyways, they might as well air it on tv in which i would probably catch it and watch it already.
6) i dont think recent new mechas being overrated or not are the issue. its the fact how you guys hug the old gundam's balls so tight and immediate shun any opinions that defiles those said old mechas almost immediately without hesitation. words back at you, overrated much? (fact: zaku is prolly the most overrated gunpla ive seen. countless of different versions of zaku released, yet. its the same damn mono eye, with the same damn design minus modifications here/there and different random weapons

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7) dont think its been mentioned that preferring UC == tomino loyalist. no need to get defensive on that as well.
8) again, opinions are being shove down our throats. why not i just randomly say omg bible black is like, must see as its the epitome of hentai and you must watch it, surely everyone got like 20minutes to spare for the first episode or some random compiled youtube recaps am i right? its like watching hentai but never knowing its lolwut roots or w/e. (making this shit up, but you *SHOULD* get the idea)