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 Gandum V6, ガンダム (Gandamu)

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post Apr 19 2008, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Apr 19 2008, 11:47 AM)
.. the last one on the right..??
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You're probably the only one who bothered to actually try... where are all the gundam fans? dry.gif
Yeah it's the last one on the right.

QUOTE(kyon22 @ Apr 19 2008, 05:09 PM)
seeing gundam stargazer, all gundam 00 would probably have killer upgrade like gundam buster and duel...
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All the 5 GAT-Xs got upgrades, and I must say not all of them look nice. I prefer the original 5 than the upgraded ones... the new ones are just a competition to see who can carry the largest and biggest backpacks and gear.
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post Apr 19 2008, 06:36 PM

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I prefer the buster upgrade. The new buster can shoot laser rifle..
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post Apr 19 2008, 06:44 PM

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where are all the gundam fans? dry.gif


All gone to Code Geass thread.... Cos their undying devotion to Gundam 00 lead them they.

While we sitting around here left behind..
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post Apr 19 2008, 06:58 PM

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hahaa....hold a sec for gundam while turn to code geass R2 and macross frontier.. tongue.gif
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post Apr 19 2008, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Apr 19 2008, 06:44 PM)
All gone to Code Geass thread.... Cos their undying devotion to Gundam 00 lead them they.

While we sitting around here left behind..
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What does Geass and 00 gotta do with each other? Apart from the same hideous alien looking mechas? dry.gif

Anyway...
I AM GUNDAM... now my collection has increased to 4 !!
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Found new sources for Unicorn novel after the old photo album got shut down due to copyright infringement... Get them quick before it disappears again.
http://bbs1.greedland.net/topic53_topicId8...forumPage1.html

New info regarding Marida =
1. She used to be a prostitute, but was rescued by the Zeon forces... OMG... please not another Lalah... Keep the main female protagonist as Mineva please.

2. Unicorn thrashed Kshatriya, but Barnage stopped the beam sabre just in time so Marida didn't get vaporised. It seems that she was captured by Nahal Argama...

Info gotten from /m/ and the above link, so don't quote me on the authenticity of it.
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post Apr 20 2008, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Apr 19 2008, 09:42 PM)
What does Geass and 00 gotta do with each other? Apart from the same hideous alien looking mechas? dry.gif
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Because most of the people who flood the Gundam Thread early on are now at Code Geass thread flooding it now.


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QUOTE(kyon22 @ Apr 19 2008, 06:36 PM)
I prefer the buster upgrade. The new buster can shoot laser rifle..
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I prefer the original 5.... Stargazer really broke my heart, duel eat by dog, buster die like hell.....even Strike Noir........ sad.gif
but, Stargazer gundam is godlike~ In the end the movment enjin that use to explore the space is cool. biggrin.gif

Btw, Keberos Bucue Hound is the most cool MS/MA rclxms.gif
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post Apr 20 2008, 12:56 PM

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hey....gt a new gundam game for PC.....bootfighter, go check it out

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/676686

although u cant move as fast as gundam but it hv combo atk, no gundam 00 MS but hv gundam seed brows.gif can ply online too rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 20 2008, 02:01 PM

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repost la.. check last page..
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playing psp gundam SEED zaft vs alliance for so long. I start to get a jolt once in a while..
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post Apr 21 2008, 05:12 PM

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So quiet again...

Nu gundam early sketches.
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Char.... lotte? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 09:08 PM

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gundam
when will 00 show out~
argh~

beside
anyone know where to listen to 00 songs?
like those which been remix
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post Apr 21 2008, 11:22 PM

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Gundam 00... well wait for Code Geass R2 to finish first la.

Well the thread become really quiet now.. Just like before Gundam 00 came out.

What can i say, Those people who came into the thread shows a great devotion into Gundam 00, even to a level They cant really take any form of criticism of it which simply ignite to flame wars of biasity..

I was hoping they would stay around for aftermath discussion of the related series but nope.. All gone to flood other threads..So there you have it..

Well maybe i will start a Gundam 00 discussion.

Linear Rifle

Gundam 00 is one of the few series that actually uses the Gauss Gun Theory. In Gundam 00 universe most aerial MS uses this weapon such as Flags. Hellion and Enact. I assume that this weapon are popular as Linear Rifle have little recoil. Since recoil can interrupt MS flight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

To brief it up, Unlike regular rifle where Gunpowder is use to push the bullet out of the gun. Gauss Gun uses electromagnetic force to push the bullet. However todays limitation is its takes to much power and weight compare to today Guns.

I guess in 2300A.D we already have technology to overcome today limitation. but my query is the fire rate of the gun.. Its really fast for electromagnetic weapon.

Based on flemming left hand rule
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Before each round can be fired , it needs to charge the magnetic field and after each round , The magnetic coil has to recharge which takes sometime..







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post Apr 22 2008, 02:06 AM

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afaik the weapons they are firing are just standard beam weapons?

more towards the gn-x though, all they do is float around pew pew pew

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oh and not sure if you bothered to ponder, but if all you guys are talkin is uc related stuff, which obviously isnt the majority liking thats shown in this thread, what do you think people would react? only 3 possible outcome:
1) just ignore and 2 sided discussions (when series is runnin)
2) clash and flame on
3) desert thread (post series)

another thing to note is that season2 starts in 6 months, you can discuss its aftermath, speculate the upcoming stuffs all you want, but 6 months is seriously a long time ahead. and all you can do is guessworks and speculations.

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post Apr 22 2008, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Apr 21 2008, 11:22 PM)
Gundam 00... well wait for Code Geass R2 to finish first la.

Well the thread become really quiet now.. Just like before Gundam 00 came out.

What can i say, Those people who came into the thread shows a great devotion into Gundam 00, even to a level They cant really take any form of criticism of it which simply ignite to flame wars of biasity..

I was hoping they would stay around for aftermath discussion of the related series but nope.. All gone to flood other threads..So there you have it..

I think the biasity lies on yourself lar. Your arguments against Gundam 00 are just biased and do not even fall within rational critical debate. Heck i'm not even a Gundam 00 fanboi but i don't gila criticise it like you do. For me (and i think Quazecotl too) I don't really care what you think of 00. We're not like Narutards trying to defend their "awesome show". But if you're gonna throw a critical comment and spark an intelligent debate, don't make yourself look silly and whine that you're getting flamed for it. That's all I wanna say about the subject. If you did the same thing in the Code Geass thread and said stuff like "DUuRrrr, so stupid why Rivalz is there as a character, waste of time and stupid directing DUrrr. And wtf the cat episode....stupid." i'd also be equally annoyed.

And why the thread is quiet? Aftermath discussion? I'm quite sure we had it for 2-3 weeks after the series ended, but someone was banging the show on unlogical grounds and pulling the "UC IS SUPERIOR" card, that any proper discussion was quickly squashed. Then we get labeled as 00-tards. sweat.gif

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Well maybe i will start a Gundam 00 discussion.

Linear Rifle

Gundam 00 is one of the few series that actually uses the Gauss Gun Theory. In Gundam 00 universe most aerial MS uses this weapon such as Flags. Hellion and Enact. I assume that this weapon are popular as Linear Rifle have little recoil. Since recoil can interrupt MS flight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun

To brief it up, Unlike regular rifle where Gunpowder is use to push the bullet out of the gun. Gauss Gun uses electromagnetic force to push the bullet. However todays limitation is its takes to much power and weight compare to today Guns.

I guess in 2300A.D we already have technology to overcome today limitation. but my query is the fire rate of the gun.. Its really fast for electromagnetic weapon.

Based on flemming left hand rule
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Before each round can be fired , it needs to charge the magnetic field and after each round , The magnetic coil has to recharge which takes sometime..
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Its basically the same thing as linear catapult. laugh.gif

Well why too fast rate of fire? People have been "spoiled" by sci-fi depictions of the rail gun due to games like Quake, Fallout etc. Its quite possible to have a rapid firing gauss rifle. Theory is if you are able to generate so much power to power the EM field and propel bullets, i'm sure you're able to keep it up for a longer duration of time, thus rapid firing. Its kind of silly to power it up, shoot 1 slug, then it needs a cooling period to shoot another. But i'm sure sci-fi always explains it in a way that's acceptable. An example of a rapid firing rail gun in fiction is Arnie's Eraser. That was awesome.

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What does Geass and 00 gotta do with each other? Apart from the same hideous alien looking mechas?


They both sponsored and made by Bandai/Sunrise but thats about it.
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post Apr 22 2008, 08:41 AM

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Probably they have multiple charge up systems in the gun. WHile one is about to release, the other few charges up. Its already 2300 or 2400, they should be capable of doing something like that. That is what I guess, from what you are saying, but I don't think the team behind 00 went deep into these facts.

It might has its flaws, but what the heck, its fun to watch anyway, except the 2nd half of the first season where people start to die like in Iraq , LOL.


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QUOTE(Demon_Eyes_Kyo @ Apr 22 2008, 08:41 AM)
Probably they have multiple charge up systems in the gun. WHile one is about to release, the other few charges up. Its already 2300 or 2400, they should be capable of doing something like that. That is what I guess, from what you are saying, but I don't think the team behind 00 went deep into these facts.

It might has its flaws, but what the heck, its fun to watch anyway, except the 2nd half of the first season where people start to die like in Iraq , LOL.
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to be honest i think iraq is WAAAY worse. few "glorified" deaths in double oh is no where near the death tolls on iraq war be it the civs or the millitary personel from both sides.


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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 08:12 AM)
I think the biasity lies on yourself lar. Your arguments against Gundam 00 are just biased and do not even fall within rational critical debate. Heck i'm not even a Gundam 00 fanboi but i don't gila criticise it like you do. For me (and i think Quazecotl too) I don't really care what you think of 00. We're not like Narutards trying to defend their "awesome show". But if you're gonna throw a critical comment and spark an intelligent debate, don't make yourself look silly and whine that you're getting flamed for it. That's all I wanna say about the subject. If you did the same thing in the Code Geass thread and said stuff like "DUuRrrr, so stupid why Rivalz is there as a character, waste of time and stupid directing DUrrr. And wtf the cat episode....stupid." i'd also be equally annoyed.

And why the thread is quiet? Aftermath discussion? I'm quite sure we had it for 2-3 weeks after the series ended, but someone was banging the show on unlogical grounds and pulling the "UC IS SUPERIOR" card, that any proper discussion was quickly squashed. Then we get labeled as 00-tards.  sweat.gif
Its basically the same thing as linear catapult. laugh.gif

Well why too fast rate of fire? People have been "spoiled" by sci-fi depictions of the rail gun due to games like Quake, Fallout etc. Its quite possible to have a rapid firing gauss rifle. Theory is if you are able to generate so much power to power the EM field and propel bullets, i'm sure you're able to keep it up for a longer duration of time, thus rapid firing. Its kind of silly to power it up, shoot 1 slug, then it needs a cooling period to shoot another. But i'm sure sci-fi always explains it in a way that's acceptable. An example of a rapid firing rail gun in fiction is Arnie's Eraser. That was awesome.
They both sponsored and made by Bandai/Sunrise but thats about it.
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actually im quite a gundam 00 tard/fanboi myself. only difference is that i dont go zealous about how winrar gundam 00 is as opposed to some others that would, be it 00 or UC or w/e.

in regards of the railgun theory for double oh, no matter how you see it, railguns rail (you would know since you still remember arnie's eraser biggrin.gif) so the projected output should have some sort of a spiral animation, and the projectile should be VERY penetrateble on most types of armor, granted it has an actual bullet head.

weapons in double oh on the other hand are all beam based, they have no spiral animation, and they "splatter" upon contact instead of "piercing" as opposed a railgun nature projectile would.

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Well.. The reason why most Sci Fi decipt railgun that way because Thats how realife railgun works.

In order for bullets to achieve the intented velocity, The magnetic coil has to be charge then fire.. If you keep loading each new round without a cooldown period, You lose alot of velocity after each round.

Well i guess Thats why all linear rifle in Gundam 00 has weak penetration.... for rapid fire..
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QUOTE(wolfx @ Apr 22 2008, 08:12 AM)
And why the thread is quiet? Aftermath discussion? I'm quite sure we had it for 2-3 weeks after the series ended, but someone was banging the show on unlogical grounds and pulling the "UC IS SUPERIOR" card, that any proper discussion was quickly squashed. Then we get labeled as 00-tards. 
It was quiet because none of the discussions about the aftermath went for long. How many people even attempted to contribute to that topic? tongue.gif
Now that redeye started a new one about railguns, hopefully it can go on for sometime.

I was wondering, can a rail gun charge a beam shot with magnetic fields to make it go faster and fire more rapidly? It might be a hard one to answer since there's no real-life "beam" gun and GN/Minovsky particles are just fictional hoohah, but can a magnetic field actually affect the efficacy of a beam rifle? In CE rail guns such as the ones used by Freedom and Duel fire projectile shells rather than beams so it's easier to fathom.


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post Apr 22 2008, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(redeye84 @ Apr 22 2008, 12:07 PM)
Well.. The reason why most Sci Fi decipt railgun that way because Thats how realife railgun works.

In order for bullets to achieve the intented velocity, The magnetic coil has to be charge then fire.. If you keep loading each new round without a cooldown period, You lose alot of velocity after each round.

Well i guess Thats why all linear rifle in Gundam 00 has weak penetration.... for rapid fire..
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Actually no. They can be fired rapidly. From the same wiki page you quoted.

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If it is even possible to apply the technology as a rapid-fire automatic weapon, a railgun would have further advantages in increased rate of fire. The feed mechanisms of a conventional firearm must move to accommodate the propellant charge as well as the ammunition round, while a railgun would only need to accommodate the projectile. Furthermore, a railgun would not have to extract a spent cartridge case from the breech, meaning that a fresh round could be cycled almost immediately after the previous round has been shot.

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Railguns are a popular device in science fiction. However, they are seldom portrayed accurately, often being confused with a coilgun. These fictional representations of the railgun sometimes appear as powerful handheld weapons in video games of the first person shooter genre, where they were made famous by the Quake series, but more often as larger weapons mounted on mecha (Warhammer 40,000) or starships.

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Apr 22 2008, 02:30 PM)
It was quiet because none of the discussions about the aftermath went for long. How many people even attempted to contribute to that topic? tongue.gif
Now that redeye started a new one about railguns, hopefully it can go on for sometime.

I was wondering, can a rail gun charge a beam shot with magnetic fields to make it go faster and fire more rapidly? It might be a hard one to answer since there's no real-life "beam" gun and GN/Minovsky particles are just fictional hoohah, but can a magnetic field actually affect the efficacy of a beam rifle? In CE rail guns such as the ones used by Freedom and Duel fire projectile shells rather than beams so it's easier to fathom.
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Harr??? Rail gun is projectile weapon lar. You can't apply magnetic charge to beam weapons to make them faster.

Beam weapons are light weapons. And being light....they SHOULD be the fastest weapons ever and should be invisible but this is not the case with sci-fi. Meaning once u aim and pull the trigger, the target definately can't dodge already cause its considered as good as hit. But that will be pretty boring action scenes right? laugh.gif

Even in CE, railguns being kinetic weapons are worthless against targets with phase shift, as Kira shot his rail guns at Shinn's Impulse and Shinn was like emo "are you toying with me, saying i would've been dead without phase shift?" something to that effect.

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