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I am so worry that 360 cannot handle GTAIV
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TSlim360
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Feb 29 2008, 08:23 PM, updated 18y ago
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Well,although Rockstar has already confirm GTAIV for XBox 360 and PS3.But did you all think that 360 storage media DVD can handle this game?Since this game require such a big space.As I know a DVD game for XBOX 360 has only 7-8 GB only,is it the GTAIV game can fit into the DVD?
I am sure that PS3 have no storage problem since it use Bluray Disc and definitely the GTAIV game data can fit into Bluray Disc.But,is it can also fit into XBox 360 disc media?
I personally is a 360 owner,I am worry about last minute Rockstar cancelled the GTAIV for 360.
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Level6
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Feb 29 2008, 08:42 PM
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http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/grandth...topslot;title;1read this... dun worry... Its definitely due out accordin to the release date.I am a ps3 user though,n oso cant wait for this game^^
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SUSdattebayo
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Feb 29 2008, 08:59 PM
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all current top end dx10 PC games also use up one DVD9 only, how much more u need?
blu-ray's advantage is that developer can put uncompressed data in it, or put the same data in various location to speed up load time. Xbox 360 may need some loseless compression thats all.
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defaultname365
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Feb 29 2008, 09:25 PM
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I 'heard' the game developers have issues developing this game for the PS3. In fact, 'some' graphical features had to be removed. This was said to be one of the major reasons why the whole game was delayed (from the October 2007 release)... http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/50937
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sunauto
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Mar 1 2008, 02:11 AM
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The most they will include a LPCM soundtrack for the PS3 version like DMC 4 on the PS3 but which version looks better, I'm not too sure because if it is optimized for the PS3, games like Burnout Paradise and DMC 4 will look better than the XBOX 360 version.
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prazole
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Mar 1 2008, 02:15 AM
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honestly i feel there are many more games on 360 that looks better than GTA4 that fits find in DVD9 and if they want to put 3-4 DVD.. i have no problem with it
but ya its slowly beginning to show that next generation games need more space than DVD9 lots of dev mention about this already..
if you read about MGS4 they even said bluray not enough to put all language into a disc.. not that i mean that every game should be crammed with every language possible.. but like lost odyssey they put in 4DVDs but come wth 3 different full language dialogs..
like i said earlier multiple DVD9 is still fine with me..
This post has been edited by prazole: Mar 1 2008, 02:20 AM
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GamersFamilia
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Mar 1 2008, 11:03 AM
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me also no probs if the games come 3 or 4 disc...
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rx330
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Mar 1 2008, 11:20 AM
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and last i heard, ppl complain abt changing disc  sunauto, DMC4 written has PCM, but hor.. no matter how i find, i cant find the settings to set it wor... only in DD nia.. same goes for sega rally revo... this asia version like unker ho nia.. simply type
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S4PH
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Mar 1 2008, 11:48 AM
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when got 2 many disc scared misplaced only hehehe
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cowboy_bebop
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Mar 1 2008, 12:49 PM
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i heard back then the only issue was about 360 with hdd vs 360 without hdd, something to do with data caching if im not mistaken next time launch new console with 10 or 20 different sku's
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Zaryl
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Mar 1 2008, 01:14 PM
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Remember GTA: San Andreas for PS2? They said they will need multiple DVDs coz the cities are way too big. But heck, in the end, they fit everything into 1 DVD ok je?
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nakata101
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Mar 1 2008, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(lim360 @ Feb 29 2008, 08:23 PM) Well,although Rockstar has already confirm GTAIV for XBox 360 and PS3.But did you all think that 360 storage media DVD can handle this game?Since this game require such a big space.As I know a DVD game for XBOX 360 has only 7-8 GB only,is it the GTAIV game can fit into the DVD? I am sure that PS3 have no storage problem since it use Bluray Disc and definitely the GTAIV game data can fit into Bluray Disc.But,is it can also fit into XBox 360 disc media? I personally is a 360 owner,I am worry about last minute Rockstar cancelled the GTAIV for 360. U already own a X0, if they cancel it, u still cant do anything with it, right? Why u need create a thread to tell us u r worry about it? Easyman!!!
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acougan
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Mar 1 2008, 02:15 PM
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7GB is good enough for most games.
is those HD Audio that is taking up the most space for some ps3 games.
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K-End
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Mar 1 2008, 02:52 PM
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Dont worry about it so much...i bet Rockstar will do whatever they can to deliver the game to your fav console without sacrifice anything major....and what more, 360 got exclusive DLC.....damn, you guys are lucky
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jsc_tidus
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Mar 1 2008, 08:58 PM
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ya... i dont think the load times will be vary from each consoles.. as long as u dont get to see GTA4 in Wii, thats HOORAY..
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vorchiel
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Mar 2 2008, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Feb 29 2008, 08:59 PM) all current top end dx10 PC games also use up one DVD9 only, how much more u need? blu-ray's advantage is that developer can put uncompressed data in it, or put the same data in various location to speed up load time. Xbox 360 may need some loseless compression thats all. Top end PC games require installation
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K-End
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Mar 2 2008, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(vorchiel @ Mar 2 2008, 09:32 AM) Top end PC games require installation LOL..i just thinking about the same thing. This is a fact that everyone seem to forget. When it come to PC, they dont need large media storage, they only need a larger hard disk space
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neoardi
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Mar 2 2008, 11:36 AM
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To TS, dun worry
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vorchiel
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Mar 2 2008, 12:01 PM
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Yeah don't worry much about GTAIV but in the future I can see games on 360 will use multi-disc approach or requiring HDDs for installation.
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hezda
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Mar 2 2008, 12:58 PM
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Nah... DVD would do just fine for game like GTA where the graphics is not the main selling point. Great graphics = high res textures = higher storage space... so for GTA4, DVD9 willl be sufficient.
Loading speed wise... I think PS3 version will have the edge here (after installation). I own both consoles but I already placed my order for the 360 version.
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slickz
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Mar 2 2008, 03:07 PM
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ehem... in other news.... hideo kojima says 50GB blue ray disc not enough for his vision of MGS4.
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mambo
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Mar 3 2008, 08:45 AM
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lol... wonder how would mgs4 look like.......is it gonna have and extra long storyline,... hi res graphic gonna beat crysis... and super hi def sound... cant wait to see mgs .... 50 gb oo thats a history in the making..
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PixFourG
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Mar 3 2008, 11:43 AM
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Well Kojima like to make everything to perfection. 50gb blu-ray is not enough mainly because the data is not compress. He should use blu-ray 100gb instead.
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earthdome
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Mar 3 2008, 01:43 PM
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rumour says GTA4 has 100 hours of gameplay..well it's a rumour.. but GTA always has long gameplay
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mambo
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Mar 3 2008, 02:04 PM
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well its good to hear that 100hour... is that time for noob, normal , or pro gamer..... it would be great if that is the time for pro gamer.. hahaha thats mean i gonna spend more than that.. lol
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darquarma
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Mar 3 2008, 04:43 PM
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QUOTE(mambo @ Mar 3 2008, 08:45 AM) lol... wonder how would mgs4 look like.......is it gonna have and extra long storyline,... hi res graphic gonna beat crysis... and super hi def sound... cant wait to see mgs .... 50 gb oo thats a history in the making.. Kojima's game's storylines are not overly long, they tend to not overstay their welcome. I figure the space was taken up by audio, since Kojima puts a lot of effort into the visuals and audio of his products. If you've read earlier posts of his blog, he mentions how he spend a few weeks reviewing the audio with his sound programmer for Subsistence. Furthermore theres the tonnes of codec conversations, each with their own accompanying audio track. Then there's the cutscenes as well, all of them with music and sound to suite the cutscene perfectly. One thing I noticed in MGS2 and MGS3 is that every cutscene, if it had music, had different audio tracks that suited the atmosphere, much like ambient music in movies, the tracks rarely repeat. Of course, I'm no programmer or game designer, I just assume this is what takes up all the space, seeing as audio data takes up more space than reusable textures and so on.
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edvpc
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Mar 3 2008, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(neoardi @ Mar 2 2008, 11:36 AM) To TS, dun worry  be happy...
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xxboxx
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Mar 3 2008, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(mambo @ Mar 3 2008, 08:45 AM) lol... wonder how would mgs4 look like.......is it gonna have and extra long storyline,... hi res graphic gonna beat crysis... and super hi def sound... cant wait to see mgs .... 50 gb oo thats a history in the making.. 50GB is easy to fill up if they didn't compress the data. heck, i believe any 360/PS3 games that didn't have any type of compression will exceed 50GB.
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msn83235502
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Mar 3 2008, 10:44 PM
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the only thing that took so much space is movies and audio... so no worries.
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BurgaFlippinMan
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Mar 4 2008, 10:02 AM
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Looking at the disc image files available via torrent, PS3 games are clocking well under 9GB atm?
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snipersnake
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Mar 4 2008, 11:57 AM
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if not mistaken COD4 was around 15 gigs.
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darquarma
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Mar 4 2008, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(snipersnake @ Mar 4 2008, 11:57 AM) if not mistaken COD4 was around 15 gigs. And Resistance was 20 gigs if memory serves.
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SUSdattebayo
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Mar 4 2008, 06:56 PM
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well I think if we apply loseless compression to the disc image, it would well serve under 10 GB. just my speculation. unless they use the uncompressed PCM as audio part.
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aaron5829
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Mar 7 2008, 02:07 PM
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So far the only game i heard that even blu-ray cant handle without compression ---> MGS4
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