i am intel people (never use any computer other than intel processor)

i want to try Powerbook use with PowerPC, but dunno PowerPC is too slow.

so if you're using PowerPC G3 or G4, can tell me is it good enough for basic usage?

and is it true the new Mac OS 11 not support PowerPC anymore?

using powerpc g4 1.25gb ram

using photoshop, fm2008, office, seems ok to me

There's no Max OS 11 (yet). Unless you are from the future.
G3 are not supported by latest Mac OS 10.5. G4 with more than 800Mhz should work fine.

Depends what you want to do. Watch DVD, surf net, word processing do not need a Core2Duo.

This post has been edited by wei: Feb 28 2008, 08:05 PM

i heard that PowerPC G4 can get warm easy. is it true?

Tell me which modern processor don't get warm? Ofcourse, if you run game on it for hours, that's a dump question to ask if it get hot.

I'm still on a PPC G4, and yup, its more than good enough for more than basic uses, considering that I tend to use the pretty CPU intensive stuff like Netbeans, Glassfish, etc.

However, I do find that I'm running into performance issues for the heavier number crunching stuff that I run in Glassfish, which is why I seldom run those on my PPC anymore, but its still good enough for most of my day to day development work.

Do keep in mind though, that the last revision of the PPC G4 is already more than 2 years old, so its hardly surprising that the Intel CPUs would outperform the G4.

As for heat, cant really say though. Comparing my G4 PPC Powerbook and my Core2Duo Mac Mini, I'll say that the average heat's about the same, but the Mac Mini's temperature tends to be higher during high system loads.

As for the next revision of OS X, my speculation is that PPC is likely to be no longer supported. Currently the last revision of the G4 CPUs is already more than 2 years old, and Apple's warranty maxes out at 3 years. OS X 10.5 was released towards the end of last year, and the average time span between releases is about 2 years. So the next OS X release is expected to be about 4 years after the release of the last G4 PPC.

chill wei, chill...


may the force be with you

sorry, have a bad day, my apology for the harsh words.

PPC mac is nice machines, I have 5 of them at home, 1 G3 & 4 G4.

I like it too. Still have a G5. Its a good fast machines. I have tested a few G4 powerbook too. they are quite good too.

I am a heavy business user who makes a living on my computer. I prepare and conduct presentations, research, create print content and also do web developement (design and coding).

All this using iBook G4 1.25ghz. Just sold off my desktop core 2 duo PC (you can check my sale in garage sale of this forum) and I'm using this iBook as my primary machine.

That should tell you something.

edit: it's not good enough for video editing, though. I'm still waiting for the penryn mac mini for that.

This post has been edited by GrimmReaper: Feb 29 2008, 12:05 AM

People also get hot too when they call up TMnut to complain. The only difference is no amount of fan can cool the heat. At least with a G4 or G5, you direct enough fan at them, they will cool down. Noise however is a totally different thing.

heat has never been a problem to all those machines. basically, there are plenty of those machines still running widely everywhere. Especially those Design and Video industry users.

I have a low-voltage G4 1 GHz in my eMac. The whole
computer (which includes the crt monitor and PSU) only
has one fan and the processor only has a small heatsink.

It runs pretty cool. Some of the G5s are real monsters
though.

The G3 iMac DVs had no fans at all. I have one that's
running ok after 8 years. Completely convection cooled.
Not the best idea, probly one of Steve's suggestions :-)

-yap

heat's not a problem for the machines that they released, but heat is indeed a problem that they had been facing for upcoming models. Steve did grumble about the lack of a mobile capable G5 cpu too during the time when he made the Intel announcement (not sure if its during the same announcement or not, but its around that time frame).

then the first release of the Mac Pro really makes the heat issue seems so obvious, as the Mac Pro's tower lacks the huge cooling system needed for the G5 cpus.

And the saving of space & cost went into more RAM slots, drive bays & clean internal design. Which is nice.

I meant the existing machines. Because most of the design houses and Video post production houses, audio studios, already have the additional card sloted in their machines. If they are to change a new intel, they have to spend alot of money.

till today, they are still using those G4 and G5 for their prof jobs..

On the other hand, what you mentioned is valid and I agree much the heat for the PPC chip could not expand to the notebook industry at that time, so the have to switch for good.