Fort gives bout 1k xtra hp. Also factor in GOTW, wellfed, etc. so work backwards.

9k should be a good number to target for, however I do understand mages might have a bit of issues achieving this if they dont stack stm gems.

But really, bottomline is... you can give a clothie 15k hp, but if the idiot doesnt have situational awareness and plays like cock, he's dead.