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Andy214
post Mar 6 2008, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(blueforestangel @ Mar 5 2008, 10:45 PM)
hihi..

oh u own the casio before, the price of that LTK 300TV seems not cheap tho.. RM 1300++
very bad ar?

anyway seems there are many bad comment about casio, i am looking for alternative in Yamaha E-series, heres my 2 choices: E313(RM900) and E403(RM 1150)

E313
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yam...oard?sku=702175

E403
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yam...oard?sku=707463

The review seems good for the 2, what about other LYN sifus opinion?  cool.gif

and actually where can i get Yamaha keyboard with the lowest price around PJ area? Any 2nd hand available?
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For sure the E403, you get so many features for it.

Be informed that both these only has 61 keys. Not really a big issue but just in case you missed that part.
Anotehr side node, there's also no hammer keys.

Other than that, if you're satifsfied with it, it's a good keyboard to get. Don't forget to get a "sustain pedal" for it.
Andy214
post Mar 13 2008, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(raining again @ Mar 12 2008, 02:12 PM)
hey guys, i just went to yamaha hq. i saw psr 403 and also a portable grand DGX-220. it have 76 not sure is'it weighted keys but i think it have less function (http://music.yamaha.com/products/main.html...024_20023_16277)

is the grand one good ?

btw, one more qtion.. can i know what u guys mean about touch sensitive ? touch keys or touch lcd ?

tahnx biggrin.gif
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The portable grand is quite good and value for money if you're tight in budget or don't want to spend so much on it.

The best advice for you is to try it out yourself.
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post Mar 14 2008, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(raining again @ Mar 13 2008, 06:44 PM)
erm .. i've tried both. Dgx 220 keys are more like real piano, but it's not weighted keys i think, and it has brow in color that looks better. But the psr 403 have more fuction right? it looks more complicated than 220. I'm a beginner but may become pro someday so I want to invest only one time. So what exact is the difference between these two models apart from one extra octave sad.gif i hope i wont regret after getting one of these.
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raining again,

Ooops, sorry, I mistaken your portable grand model. The one I tested was the 6 series I think, with 88-keys. That's a good one, but ain't cheap tough.

Yea, the PSR403 is good with many function. If you're into keyboard programming, arranging songs, and making use of those cool feature at a cheaper price, you can go for that one. You can play like band/orchestra with that one if you make use of its feature.

Yes, IMO, it's preferrabbly invest only one time, since it will not worth to sell it off in the future (no value or depreciates too much since technology advance very fast, and new models and new feature is always introduced). If you really want a full range piano, suggest you take a look at the DGX 5 or 6 series.

If you plan to take a piano course, you can try "Play by Ear", they have offer the PSR (not sure about the DGX) with the course at a cheaper price. Look for the founder "Alex Leow", not sure if they still have the promotion but I think you should be able to request for it if you're interested.
http://www.playbyear.com.my


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post Mar 15 2008, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(raining again @ Mar 15 2008, 02:58 AM)
actually wats the dif between these two types of keyboards? midi is more on recording right ? unsure.gif  btw, i'm just asking for knowledge, i'm more in portable with speaker .. plan to learn play by ear too, so maybe i could work in some band in college  biggrin.gif
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Those MDI keyboard does not have speaker, you have to connect to PC or MIDI devices to produce sound, the sound quality will depend on the PC/Midi device.
You can connect your normal digital piano/keyboard to those device/PC too. Most digital piano/keyboard have Midi Output and/or Input.

If you plan to play by ear, you should really check out the website I've provided. The course is well known and fun to learn. If you already have some piano background, you'll pickup in no time.

QUOTE(raining again @ Mar 15 2008, 02:58 AM)
wow that sounds damn nice ! i thought it was a real piano  shocking.gif  u sure it's around 1-2k ?
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Of course, that's not the sound produce from the Midi Keyboard. It depends on the PC/devices which output the sound. You can connect any cheap keyboard with Midi Output to it and produce the same sound. Heck you can even connect a cheap keyboard with Midi output to an expensive Digital Piano and use it's sound output for the sound.

Many manufacturer sell some kind of device which provides various sound sample, you can connect any keyboard/digital piano with Midi output to it and get the nice sound from eac different manufacturer regardless of what brand your keyboard is.

Try look up "Yamaha Motif-Rack ES" on YouTube and you should find a couple of videos of someone using a cheap keybaord with that rack and produce marvellous sounds.
These devices isn't cheap, anytime cost more than a high end digital piano notworthy.gif

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post Mar 15 2008, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(N33d @ Mar 15 2008, 01:20 PM)
i have to disagree with u bout the cheap keyboard... if ur input is not sensitive or 'cheap'.. the result that come out sure flat one.. u can get wat i mean by imagine pc-keyboard as a midi input and all ur sound is flat as square..mayb ur 'cheap' is those keyboard range around rm700 then i agree that icon_rolleyes.gif 

Even expensive digital piano doesnt have the realistic sound compare to sampler, i don think that an xpensive digital piano have gigabytes of spaces,at least 1GB of RAM and a powerful cpu build in to recreate real piano like what soft sampler mean to..i prefer to bundle a mid-end midi keyboard with a good sampler
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Yes, sorry I missed that part about 'non sensitive touch' keyboard. But nonetheless, the sounds produced are the same except without velocity touch sensitive, the playing will be different.

As for expensive digital piano, I'm not really sure, but do check out those really expensive ones, like Digital Grand, Workstations, Stage Pianos, etc...
If you check out those Digital Stage Piano/Workstations, they usually have slot for sampler card to slot in for additional sound samples. But these Stage Piano usually requires powerful and flat frequency response speakers to produce accurate, fast, smooth sound.

Anyway, when plug into PC, then for sure it's more powerful, opening to various possibilities/flexibilities. But my point is, any keyboard/digital piano with MIDI output can be used as a MIDI controller. So for TS scenario, he could just settle with a Digital Piano for flexible playing and connect to the PC for other samplings.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Mar 15 2008, 04:51 PM

 

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