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 Toyota Vios (2nd Hand) or Proton Persona, Dilemma

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imperialrealcs
post Feb 23 2008, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Nadia_1510 @ Feb 23 2008, 10:10 PM)
dont buy proton car la my dear.. lau ya 1.. perodua is better ...
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stupidest post i ever saw so far whistling.gif
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post Feb 23 2008, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(Edi8888 @ Feb 23 2008, 10:30 PM)
he just telling the fact...
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which is stupid doh.gif
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post Feb 24 2008, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(barrylin @ Feb 24 2008, 12:38 AM)
Ok first i have a vios but is a new one. So compare to the old 1 is much bigger space inside and there is a lot more tech advance being install.

Eventhough i do not support proton, you still have to consider pretty much as 1 is old 4 years old car another is a brand new car. If you would say spare part for me is ok as is not much differ. 1 9 years old vios and 1 persona 5 years old, i believe the resale value could be similiar but that is future who knows. In the end i couldn't give ant decision tongue.gif  but still i go for vios..............

If you are a teen, think what care you drive attract people tongue.gif .
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okay, i made a calculation based on highest spec for both vios and persona
if a 9 years 89k vios vs 5 years old 56k persona got same resale value, lets say 20k (example)..
VIOS deprecriate average 7.7k a year
PERSONA deprecriate average 7.2k a year
so now who deprecriate more whistling.gif

how calculation is calculated:
RM(buying price)- RM20k = value lost
(value lost)/(age of the car) = deprecriate value per year on average

if im wrong, im sorry, please enlighten me wink.gif
even if im wrong, it wont differ much sweat.gif
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post Feb 24 2008, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Ken @ Feb 24 2008, 11:05 AM)
no different to ur stupid post as well

btw, to TS, i will say persona is much better to buy compare a 4 years old vios ... the rear space for vios is quite cramp
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u r stupid for not reading properly doh.gif
she is stating a statement that perodua is better than proton
i am stating my oppinion that the vios is overrated shakehead.gif

QUOTE(tps18489 @ Feb 24 2008, 11:27 AM)
To imperialrealcs: Maybe you're right. But from what I know, Toyota cars have very good resale value.
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that is what u heard.. please understand how much u have paid for a low end car..
persona is same class as vios but see the pricegap, 89k vs 56k
but in persona, u get bigger engine, bigger cabin, bigger car etc..
those complaint on proton or bragging on toyota reliability is a joke coz i bet most of them doesnt own proton/toyota/honda but they heard from aunty, uncle, friend, whatever ~ pss: i personally own these 3 brands in my house
put out that mentality aside, go compare urself vios vs persona quality
most people who bought vios for such expensive price and see critics sure dont like lor haha
i did the comparison last time n end up with honda city coz after calculation made, city has better price vs value than vios
with the VTEC, CVT, slightly spacious than vios, great black interior, nice door panel quality (not too plastic like vios)

but in the end, it is all depend on u thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Feb 24 2008, 12:32 PM
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post Feb 24 2008, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Feb 24 2008, 01:10 PM)
the red text is not TRUE statement. cant agreed at all  hmm.gif

We all are knew the GOV protect on Proton, therefore, Proton can sell in such price and at the same time tax kao kao imported car as higher as ossible as to remain the competitiveness.
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it is true as we live in malaysia, we pay in RM wink.gif

QUOTE(blinky @ Feb 24 2008, 01:24 PM)
Same class? Based on?

You were contradicting yourself. You said "89k vs 56k", that itself proves that they are from a different class altogether.

What else? 1.5 vs 1.6? And you call that same class? Just because Proton "claims" that they are?

And your previous statement about a 9 year old Vios could carry RM20k is flawed. A 9 year old Toyota will never ever fetch RM20k. Take a look at Motor Trader and try looking for a 1999 Toyota that is worth RM20k.

Sometimes, it's better to think before you speak.

For TS, I'd say go for the Vios. I got a Proton as my first car as well and it was hell. Each 10,000km service I spent more than RM2k, with that amount, I could've been driving a BMW already.

I just bought the new Vios, and the biggest problem is, I couldn't even sell off my Proton because the price offered was so low, I could lose RM14k on cash. Hence, I'm force to keep both the cars now.

Bypass the usual Proton crap, start with a Japanese then upgrade from then on to continental or whatever. It's a blessing in disguise to not choose a Proton.
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sorry:
toyota vios is subcompact car while persona is a compact car
so, i apologize for saying vios same class as persona because vios is 1 class below persona.. my bad whistling.gif
u may argue that info in wikipedia is fake, so u show me why an vios is much superior than overpriced vios?

so u r saying a 89k vios same class as 90k perdana?

so u r saying a 2.0L civic c-class same class as 2.0L camry/merz c-class?

if u were to read my quote properly, someone suggest a 9years old vios same price as 5years old persona and i gave an example of 20k.. for god sake, read throughly

i always think before i speak.. at least i dont hear what other people said only.. i go and test myself so everything is based on my observation whistling.gif

juz because u bought an overpriced car doesnt mean it is a godlike car.. myvi is a god car as well wink.gif nuff said


Added on February 24, 2008, 5:39 pm
QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Feb 24 2008, 01:22 PM)
We called it testimonial my dear smile.gif

I don't have personally to own these cars to show my stupidity on how well they were built.

Anyway, how often are we going to use the unnecessary features packed eg: Ultraseat , 7 speed ~ala tiptronic virtual gearbox, and considering most of the time only the driver that occupied the car, do we need large and humongous interior space to carry 5 adults every time ?  

As long as the budget sits in comfortably the choice is yours. I rather get myself an MRS if I don't have the urge of having a decent bonnet and extra passenger seats at the back.

Good luck TS.
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at least i get what i paid.. what is the advantage of vios over honda city? u tell me then.. both were same priced whistling.gif
ultraseat is a stanby feature when u gona take in large item
7 speeder cvt (not tiptronic) provide good power and silent engine, as well as FC
with large interior, the driver will feel relaxed rather than packed interior whistling.gif
if u were to notice, mostly camry/accord on the road are occupied by driver only

This post has been edited by imperialrealcs: Feb 24 2008, 05:40 PM

 

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