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post Feb 26 2008, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 26 2008, 11:36 AM)
i dun think so. the warrant still in money at 0.075cents.
Based on last 4 average days closing for Hang seng index, HSI-C1 still valued at 0.075cents
HSI average points at ard 23448.15. If HSI index closed higher that this points, HSI-C1 will be more higher..

Judge at ur own. =)

(Note: just rough estimation, please correct me if im wrong)
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just wondering how come if HSI close higher, the HSI-C1 also expected to move higher? I thought these warrants not really move in-tandem with the Main share but mostly based on choice of goreng? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 26 2008, 11:42 AM)
just wondering how come if HSI close higher, the HSI-C1 also expected to move higher? I thought these warrants not really move in-tandem with the Main share but mostly based on choice of goreng? hmm.gif
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Well, based on my understanding. As long as call warrant hasn't reach suspension date, all traders tend to goreng it whether mother share is rise or not. Just like HKEX-C7, yesterday rose so much although mother share drop (kind of goreng type).
But for HSI-C1 case, it will move in-line with mother share now since it has come to final 5 average-days before going to suspension.
Coz if during conversion process, calculation is based on last 5 average days. Ppl can't goreng this stock at this point of time.

Btw, 0.075 is just rough estimation without considering currency fluctuation, administration costs and etc..
(im using 2.39 for HKD conversion, kinda outdated)
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QUOTE(aretla @ Feb 26 2008, 09:20 AM)
high gearing == debt??
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Yup, high gearing = high debt. Check the company's Debt-Equity ratio
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post Feb 26 2008, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 26 2008, 11:50 AM)
Well, based on my understanding. As long as call warrant hasn't reach suspension date, all traders tend to goreng it whether mother share is rise or not. Just like HKEX-C7, yesterday rose so much although mother share drop (kind of goreng type).
But for HSI-C1 case, it will move in-line with mother share now since it has come to final 5 average-days before going to suspension.
Coz if during conversion process, calculation is based on last 5 average days. Ppl can't goreng this stock at this point of time.

Btw, 0.075 is just rough estimation without considering currency fluctuation, administration costs and etc..
(im using 2.39 for HKD conversion, kinda outdated)
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oh...i c.....thanks. However, I still find it quite difficult to comprehend the warrants movement. I feel they are erratic, kinda no sense of direction blink.gif
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 26 2008, 12:58 PM)
oh...i c.....thanks. However, I still find it quite difficult to comprehend the warrants movement. I feel they are erratic, kinda no sense of direction blink.gif
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Retailers are quite blur on warrants.

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post Feb 26 2008, 02:47 PM

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market moving towards the drain .....again!
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 26 2008, 02:47 PM)
market moving towards the drain .....again!
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Despite the fact that DJ closed almost +190 yesterday! What is happening with the market!!!!!!!!!!
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QUOTE(sharesa @ Feb 26 2008, 02:47 PM)
market moving towards the drain .....again!
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whatever goes up, have to come down...
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post Feb 26 2008, 04:20 PM

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So HSI-C1 will be suspended starting from tomorrow ? now whooping 0.125 already.
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post Feb 26 2008, 04:23 PM

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why the market so no energy? due to uncertainty of the election?
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post Feb 26 2008, 04:28 PM

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Subject : HSI-C1-Expiry of Call Warrants



Contents : Kindly be advised of the following:-

(i) HSI-C1 will be expiring at 5.00 p.m. on Friday, 29 February 2008.

(ii) Trading in HSI-C1 will be suspended with effect from 9.00 a.m., Wednesday, 27 February 2008 in order to facilitate the delisting of HSI-C1 arising from the expiry.
(iii) HSI-C1 will be removed from the Official List of Bursa Malaysia Securities Berhad with effect from 9.00 a.m., Monday, 3 March 2008.

Your attention is drawn to CIMB Investment Bank Berhad's notice to holders of HSI-C1 dated 28 January 2008
Please refer to above bold statement.
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post Feb 26 2008, 04:32 PM

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since HSI-C1 so high now...are they gaining???? no idea how call warrant is played....
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aiyor, one more day for them to "play" with HSI-C1

ghosh i was shocked too, a $45 stock can becme $145 in a day, bravo!
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 26 2008, 04:34 PM)
aiyor, one more day for them to "play" with HSI-C1

ghosh i was shocked too, a $45 stock can becme $145 in a day, bravo!
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Now is time for gorenger to goreng the stock.
Still have 26mins to go before this stock become suspended. No chances to goreng liao after today...hehe

Wanna join the boat? I wont joining though..haha.. tongue.gif
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post Feb 26 2008, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(dreams_achiever @ Feb 26 2008, 04:38 PM)
Now is time for gorenger to goreng the stock.
Still have 26mins to go before this stock become suspended. No chances to goreng liao after today...hehe

Wanna join the boat? I wont joining though..haha.. tongue.gif
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oppss i lost track of time
which means today is the last trading day for HSI-C1
me aint buying either, am watching it now
current highest price is 0.155 rolleyes.gif

p/s: last 11-min

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okie, that's it, end of HSI-C1 legend, closed at 0.145

my question is: why i can still see ppl buying the HSI-C1? ain't they aware of the suspension date, which is tomorrow?? unsure.gif
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Finally the day come. Been waiting for it to expire.... HSI-C2 show off time (provided HK market surge).
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Feb 26 2008, 05:03 PM)
okie, that's it, end of HSI-C1 legend, closed at 0.145

my question is: why i can still see ppl buying the HSI-C1? ain't they aware of the suspension date, which is tomorrow??  unsure.gif
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Calculation: Final 5 days average points = 23500.502
Intrinsic value = (23500.50 - 23000) / 2500 / 2.39 (currency conversion, not sure whether need to do averaging)
= 0.08386 (estimation)

Hm..based on this, whoever bought more than this price will sure loss.
But still this warrant is in-money. More worth than toilet-paper..kaka..

Sigh, yesterday din analyse this counter else this morning will enter at 0.06cents.
Anyway, out there still got plenty of chances..awaiting for better counter....

alivecmh: i rather opt for HSI-C4 if want to play HSI call warrant counter. Premium is much lower.

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