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 Chinese HS Versus SMK, Discussion on Pro and Cons

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post Aug 11 2008, 01:43 PM

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Look at these countries, they are more advance than us. Tell me what language or mother tongue they use besides English.

- Korea
- Japan
- China
- France
- Germany
- Switzerland

Don't forget, Vietnam, India, Indonesia are catching up.

My dad and many of his friends have been working with multinational companies in places like Hong Kong, Taiwan and China.They got good offer because they are bilingual.

My mum is teaching Mandarin to a group of non-Chinese children from Sekolah Kebangsaan.

I went to Chinese primary school then SMK, doing Canadian Pre-U now. I am able to communicate with my Canadian lecturers and other international students,no problem at all.

Come on, it is year 2008, NOT Tanah Jajahan Orang British of 1958. The Americans or European won't look down on Chinese if he/she can't speak fluent English, but they would give you a funny look if you told them "I don't speak Mandarin, I only understand English". It is true, my mum used to work in Swiss company and my dad is working in a British company. Their colleagues(local Chinese) were embarrassed when they couldn't interpret a simple Chinese sentence as requested by Mat Salleh.


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post Aug 11 2008, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(Winston LYN @ Aug 11 2008, 02:14 PM)
I read all the threads here and I find most of the comments are actually 50-50 on the pros and cons of both of the educational systems.

Each and everyone of u are actually commenting based on their educational experiences and rather missed out that "you only studied on that particular time and place". Meaning that u're actually generalising educations based on his/her experience.

So in my oppinion, it doensn't matter which HS u send ur child to(At least the school you have chosen is not the worst). The problem is encouraging ur child to study on their own without being too dependent on teachers.

Yes teacher's are quite important in education here but if they just depend on teacher's teaching and then blames on the school because of incompetency of delivering education is not rational at all.

As have been said"We have been blaming on Governments and media for our child's misbehaviour but never once we blame on ourselves".

However, it is important to note too that environment also plays an important role besides parent's education. So, 2 of these HS have their pros and cons depends on which type of school. Nothing is perfect.

Note: I am from SMK, and what some of u said are damn true about this "I can't get along with Chinese educated ppl".
Most of them talk cock compared to most English Educated ppl I know. English educated ppl are more mature then them(based on my experience, sorry if I have offended anyone here. Would like to hear from ur experiences too)

Their topics are also quite immature..prefers to talk colk and entertainment stuff,...pop singer and bla bla which I think it's total crap. Besides, they don't like speaking english. Not only me, I and my friend(from SMK) too find difficulties in mixing with them,..end up only 2 of us in the class.
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I pity you for not knowing the real situation just because you don't understand Chinese language and thought Chinese educated people are immature. That's why you and your friend end up as "ONLY TWO OF YOU IN THE CLASS". Spend some money if you can afford, visit Europe, Australia, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Korea, China etc, before making any baseless comparison. Have you ever done self examination: why you can't mix with them?

Hey, I thought only those retired uncles and aunties or those people during my grandparents generation would have high regards on English educated people, that was 20-30 years ago. It was because they could easily get a job in government departments if they understood English then.Therefore, these old people were proud and arrogant. But, dulu lain, sekarang lain.

Well, I don't know where you stay.For your information, nowadays most of the Chinese parents in KL/Selangor are sending their children to Chinese primary schools, and quite a number of these parents are English educated. They are aware of the importance of learning both Chinese and English language. There are about 10% of non-Chinese pupils in Chinese school. Are they immature?


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post Aug 12 2008, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(Winston LYN @ Aug 12 2008, 06:13 PM)
Again another Chinese Educated ppl here bashin me...I have already put in my comments "I am making oppinions based on MY EXPERIENCE" , so I am not generalising ALL of the Chinese Educated ppl. Maybe I am the unluck one who have seen those compared to the time when I was in NS I actually met one who was really on par on my mindset compared to those I've met in Secondary school and now.

I have already examined why I can't mix with them for ur info. Please read my comment carefully before being so angry on my thread.

And sorry if I have really offended you. FYI, I have already made visits to those countries u hv mentioned.

Eh myky44, are u having the same problem as I am having now? Geez,...these ppl really knows nothing on the RWIs...pity them.
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Oh ,you have visited those countries, great! Would you mind sharing your experience with all of us here how was it when you were in Taiwan, Hong Kong and China? Have you talked to the people there? They are almost 100% Chinese educated.

Thanks for sharing.


Added on August 12, 2008, 11:44 pmGosh, it will be a never ending argument here. We have CHINESE of different backgrounds in such a small country. Like the saying goes - "the Chinese are just like loose sand"!

Take a look what we have in Malaysia:

(1) Half Chinese, the Baba & Nyonya
(2) Chinese educated Chinese (further devided into various type/stream of schools)
(3) English educated Chinese (older generation,when there were real English schools in existence)
(4) Sekolah Kebangsaan educated Chinese (1970s until now)
(5) Chinese in private schools (Sri KL & Sri Garden for example)
(6) Chinese in international schools
(7) The Yellow "Englishmen", some call them "banana"
(8) others (?)

WHAT ARE WE?

Let's be the laughing-stock of people from other countries.

"NO EYE SEE". cool2.gif

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post Aug 13 2008, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Winston LYN @ Aug 11 2008, 02:14 PM)

Note: I am from SMK, and what some of u said are damn true about this "I can't get along with Chinese educated ppl".
Most of them talk cock compared to most English Educated ppl I know. English educated ppl are more mature then them(based on my experience, sorry if I have offended anyone here. Would like to hear from ur experiences too)

Their topics are also quite immature..prefers to talk colk and entertainment stuff,...pop singer and bla bla which I think it's total crap. Besides, they don't like speaking english. Not only me, I and my friend(from SMK) too find difficulties in mixing with them,..end up only 2 of us in the class.
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"Dude...I speak Cantonese at home and Chinese to my chinese friends. You really think i am a banana? The sad fact is that I can't write in Chinese that's all. I have no problems at all asking for direction in Hong Kong, ordering Food and buying stuff. Yep they're 100% Chinese educated but I have no prejudice on Chinese Educated students.

It seems u have much prejudice on us..."
WELL, WELL, WELL, NOW YOU SOUND DIFFERENT FROM YOUR EARLIER STATEMENT.................

GOODNIGHT AND BYE !



 

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