All,

Looking for opinions on sending Children to Chinese HS versus National HS

1) Children will go to USA for college after HS/SPM. So, proficiency in Malay is irrelevant.

2) Very strong foundation in English. So, proficiency in English is not a problem.

So far, what I found

A) National HS -> No meritocracy and too much Islamication.

B) National HS -> Lazy and incompetent teachers

Only good National HS are

1) Mara HS which my children will not get in and don't bother

2) Kolej Islam -> forget it.

Dreamer

chen9wei,

<<Are you mean Chinese Independent school as Chinese HS and National HS as government secondary school ?>>

Yes.

Dreamer

meaj,

Give some example of what schools that you refer to. As far as I know, their quality has went down to hell too.

Dreamer

WillHung,

I graduated from SMK school. It was very good. So, this is not an attempt to bash national school. But, things has been going down hill for the past 20+ years.

If at all possible, I would prefer not to send my children to Chinese Independent High School. The pressure is TOO MUCH. But, our national high schools are SO BAD that the teachers refuse to teach most of the time. I heard story where the teacher come to class and said I do not have to teach anyhow since most of the students are in tuition classes.

Remember, I am in Klang valley. So, you could imagine how bad things could be in the rural area.

Dreamer

jianee89,

Most of the recent batch of high school graduates are very bad in English period. We, (the uncle and aunties) had sponsored many of our nephews and nieces to USA for undergraduate study over the past 10+ years. Their English proficiency are getting worse.

In my time, our English were good enough to go straight into college in USA. Now, most of our nephews and nieces had to spend one year in intensive English classes because their TOEFL is not good enough.

Dreamer

P.S.: Recently, for my daughter, in her standard 5 English class, she actually got the right answer as opposed to her English teacher. Her English teacher do not know enough English (did not read enough English books) to know that he/she was wrong.


This post has been edited by dreamer101: Feb 24 2008, 11:55 AM

kean89,

<<You generalize too much. Not everyone goes to the States or overseas to study. >>

1) Heh, this is my thread. I am VERY SPECIFIC about my question. I am not talking about everyone.

<<Even if they do, there's a necessity to be proficient in Malay if they intend to work here.>>

2) Have you started working yet?? Do you have any kind of working experience. Due to 90+% companies and bumi only contract and so on, as a non-Malay, my children can forget about finding a job in those places. I had worked in Malaysia before. From my own actual working experience, there is little commercial usage of Malays.

<< there's no such thing as Islamification even if you say it does. I've been to one and i'm not in any way Islamified or have a spot for Muslims. >>

3) Which SMK school did you went to??

<<A government school is equivalent of learning by error. Although i must say, there are SOME terrible teachers but not ALL of them are that terrible at teaching. >>

4) The BADs outnumber the good one.

By the way, I graduated from SMK school. So, it pain me to say that my children should not go to SMK school. But, I just cannot see enough goods in SMK to outnumber the BAD.

Dreamer

ccm123,

Name your school or part of the country. East Malaysia has the protection of immigration law and geography. Most of the worst and lousiest teachers do not want to work there. Klang valley has no such advantage.

Dreamer