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MyKy44
post Aug 11 2008, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(jianee89 @ Feb 24 2008, 11:41 AM)
I have a question here. Don't you guys feel that people from Chinese schools sumtimes find it a bit hard to communicate with those from SMK schools? The reason I ask this question is that I am from SJK© and national type chinese SMK school, and I found out it's a bit hard to talk to SMK students in college. I also realized that the topic we chat about is quite different. And maybe the jokes we talk are also different from each other? Anyone who have the same situation as me?
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Yes. Matter of fact i have a very harsh/stereotypic statement here too. I find that most chinese educated ppl have very different mindset. Our jokes are different. Our style of speech is different. Mentality is different.
Sorry to say, but i felt most of the chinese educated ppl i know here are rather TCSS (talk cock sing song) people who'll talk and criticise alot, but no actions taken.

Geez that just Malaysian's attitudes isn't it?

QUOTE(marine88 @ Aug 11 2008, 01:01 AM)
students from Chinese Independent High School are 100% cannot enter Local Public Universities  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

perhaps they are too brilliant? blush.gif  icon_idea.gif  blush.gif  brows.gif  rclxm9.gif  cool2.gif  whistling.gif
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sorry to disappoint u there're alot here. Only ppl like me very less here....

Note: There're chinese educated ppl who're not like wat i stated above yo. Chill smile.gif
MyKy44
post Aug 12 2008, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Winston LYN @ Aug 11 2008, 02:14 PM)
I read all the threads here and I find most of the comments are actually 50-50 on the pros and cons of both of the educational systems.

Each and everyone of u are actually commenting based on their educational experiences and rather missed out that "you only studied on that particular time and place". Meaning that u're actually generalising educations based on his/her experience.

So in my oppinion, it doensn't matter which HS u send ur child to(At least the school you have chosen is not the worst). The problem is encouraging ur child to study on their own without being too dependent on teachers.

Yes teacher's are quite important in education here but if they just depend on teacher's teaching and then blames on the school because of incompetency of delivering education is not rational at all.

As have been said"We have been blaming on Governments and media for our child's misbehaviour but never once we blame on ourselves".

However, it is important to note too that environment also plays an important role besides parent's education. So, 2 of these HS have their pros and cons depends on which type of school. Nothing is perfect.

Note: I am from SMK, and what some of u said are damn true about this "I can't get along with Chinese educated ppl".
Most of them talk cock compared to most English Educated ppl I know. English educated ppl are more mature then them(based on my experience, sorry if I have offended anyone here. Would like to hear from ur experiences too)

Their topics are also quite immature..prefers to talk colk and entertainment stuff,...pop singer and bla bla which I think it's total crap. Besides, they don't like speaking english. Not only me, I and my friend(from SMK) too find difficulties in mixing with them,..end up only 2 of us in the class.
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Geez i'm having the same thing too. U can imagine the look on my face when:
1. They told me of the Edison Chen's issue.
2. They dunno when was the GE.

Which both occured relatively close to each other.

Wat set apart in the education is not about the language, rather is the mindset. A typical Chinese mindset; everything is obstacle. Cannot do wan. Sure got problem wan. Sure will fail wan.


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post Aug 13 2008, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(Winston LYN @ Aug 12 2008, 06:13 PM)
Again another Chinese Educated ppl here bashin me...I have already put in my comments "I am making oppinions based on MY EXPERIENCE" , so I am not generalising ALL of the Chinese Educated ppl. Maybe I am the unluck one who have seen those compared to the time when I was in NS I actually met one who was really on par on my mindset compared to those I've met in Secondary school and now.

I have already examined why I can't mix with them for ur info. Please read my comment carefully before being so angry on my thread.

And sorry if I have really offended you. FYI, I have already made visits to those countries u hv mentioned.

Eh myky44, are u having the same problem as I am having now? Geez,...these ppl really knows nothing on the RWIs...pity them.
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How i wanna hug u right now and how i hope u're in UTM so i can ask u to join my debate club laugh.gif
Same background like me and goes to RWI! Wat more could i ask for? laugh.gif

QUOTE(wsf @ Aug 12 2008, 11:22 PM)
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Spoiler'd cos too long.
Look dude, as for me, i didn't say the problem was pro-created due to Chinese Educa-schyun. It's more of their mind set. Granted, students in Chi Ed have almost a phase reversal (that's 180 degrees) when it comes to mentality.
So as to simplify for u so that u understand me better:
1. The problem is NOT about CHINESE Education. It's the MENTALITY.

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post Aug 13 2008, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(kanzakicyn @ Aug 13 2008, 02:56 PM)
i think if ur child is not originally hardworking and has the heart to inprove contantly and with diciplin, sending him or her to chinese high school will bring very very BAD outcomes

cuz chinese HS, the good are the BEST, but the bad are the HOPELESS.

i mean the way they conduct the class there, they will concerntrate on the first few classes and ignore the last classes. And u will always have to compeate to get into first few class. The points are no longer round number, but in 2 digit DECIMALS.
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Gosh.....
Obviously i'm not from Chinese School, so i dunno of the system. I shall refrain from commenting in this of cos.

QUOTE(Winston LYN @ Aug 13 2008, 06:30 PM)
Haiya...What most people said here is damn true. The countries that we are sending our children would be NZ, Australia, Amerika, UK, Ireland and many many English countries. And these are the countries that are very much developed and even Chinese speaking countries looking forward of hiring these graduates....

Well u are kind of stereotyping every SMK and Chinese HS products...not all of the outcomes are of that kind. Hehe it's just based on ur oppinion yo.

Me pulak....already explained in the previous post. oh hey Myk44 u are in IPTA now is it?
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Yeah, in UTM now. I have no problem with them chinese dudes/doodads, just that sometimes their mentality totally pawn the crap outta me rclxub.gif

On a last note though, all though my english is slightly above average level, i'm not exactly proud that i dunno how to read/write in Chinese. Given the chance, i'd really go learn.
I'm doing my best now to learn Mandarin. And yeah, it has improved significantly since i entered Uni. smile.gif



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