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post Feb 27 2008, 07:43 PM

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err... now the bad news...

http://www.dailytech.com/Sun%20Leaks%206co...rticle10834.htm

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=5902&Itemid=1
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post Feb 27 2008, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 27 2008, 07:54 PM)
ive read that too..but no worries..its price will cost a fortune...
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but at least AMD fans heart are at ease...
the new core can go clock to clock with penryn.. or even beat them maybe...
but it will onli came out 2 half 2008 after the triple core...

but we cannot be sure until at least the ES are benched...

but dang nehalem... it uses HTT same as AMD.. but name it Quickstep... and even have L3 cache... aiishhh

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post Feb 27 2008, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 27 2008, 08:02 PM)
yup..AMD engineer already tired after 64bit xp wub.gif ,then intel copy it and their do nothing engineer still have the energy to flourish the plagiarized architecture oops.gif ..the same goes to phenom..hope intel learns bout it.. vmad.gif  mad.gif
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but don't these things got copyright?
but to change from using FSB to HTT... doesn't will bring problem to them?? hope it would...oops.gif
and if Intel can copy the based concept of AMD architecture, why wouldn't AMD copy back Intel?? they want to keep their originality??

OT: i still dun understand about the copyright thingys
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post Feb 27 2008, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Feb 27 2008, 08:12 PM)
Kind off topic here

I hear AMD Tri Cores gonna be released in Late March and perhaps we recived it on early April?So what do you guys think about the price?And i guess TLB bugs should be fixed.I've read somewherelse that the bug has been fixed..Btw,if the phenom still doesnt satisfied us..our only chance is...Fusion..Which is on December.Uses 45nm Processor,while Intel are switching to 32nm next year.Btw,Once reach@dec/Fusion released no more 65nm processor in the market.AMD will pull it and replaced it with 45nm.I guess say goodbye to X2 after Phenom X2 released rclxm9.gif
And perhaps phenom X2 might performs better? shocking.gif
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about the tricore.. they juz disable one of the problem cores...
im not sure about the TLB...

those are called b3 batches which they fixed the TLB bug..
Fusion?? maybe its the upcoming Deneb 45nm cores...

by the way.. great info about the AMD roadmap there...

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post Feb 27 2008, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 27 2008, 08:16 PM)
.they never use the same chip aite?no prove..most technology are the same..
AMD have their own way..like AMD,they use integrated mem controller aka on-die memory controller since 2003,and they pawn intel kaw2..now,intel wants to use on-die too..previously they use off-die,means that the northbridge act as the mem controller..
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same concept.. different implementation... aiishh...

QUOTE(User_Xp @ Feb 27 2008, 08:17 PM)
hope AMD can get higher clock with OC capability and large L2 and L3 cache or higher HTT or dual memory controller... thumbup.gif
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the upcoming deneb will be 2.8ghz+ at stock.. and higher...

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Feb 27 2008, 08:18 PM)
From what i hear the newer phenoms will be using B3 stepping too eh..If not AMD stupidly use buggy stepping for X2 and X3 lor..

Yeah i guess so..Amd X2 still being best bang for buck..So i hope it will AT LEAST give good OC capability,Larger cache at least for our hunger OCers.. rclxm9.gif .I still satisfied even it cannot beat intel very well...But at least..an improvement.
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for me, at least AMD can go clock to clock with intel satisfy me... juz like back in the s939 times...
the tri core still using the b2 batches.. but with one core disable...

not sure for phenom x2...

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post Feb 27 2008, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Feb 27 2008, 08:41 PM)
Phenom X2 is codenamed Kuma de..If tri core using b2 batches..its a buggy processor then.Btw,if the price is@RM 400 who gonna grab it?=x Since Phenom is 700++..i dun think tri cores higher than 600..
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maybe they disable the core with the TLB bug...
it said that the core with the TLB bug is not even stable at stock core... that why it can clock high...
but the chances for a desktop proc to be able to face the TLB prob is quite little unless there are in heavy load or in a combination of activity which usually servers do..

Kuma @ RM400??? nice...
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post Feb 27 2008, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Feb 27 2008, 08:53 PM)
Kuma @RM400 high liao..I mean for Tri Cores..If Tri Cores 400-500 its time to save $$ le..
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RM400 is not the maximum price range?? adoi... then its expensive laa..
but i dun think that the tricores will be too expensive... coz now the 9500 phenom is @ RM6++ so tricores will be lower than that hopefully...

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post Feb 27 2008, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Feb 27 2008, 09:35 PM)
I think you misunderstand already smile.gif

The P/S sentence I wrote is not for you. wink.gif
The sentence is for all of our members in this thread.  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif

-pWs-
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seems someone misunderstood wat u r saying.. too self conscious perhaps... aisshhh doh.gif

hehehe.. sorry bro... juz giving out infos...

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post Feb 28 2008, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Feb 28 2008, 12:55 AM)
Is oledi reach wall for my 4200 F2  hmm.gif ...try few with HTT 281 wont load into windows.. cry.gif

The cpu temp is quiet high bout 55 at ide ..so i no going to stressing longtime with 32M  hmm.gif
Result for 1M Super PI...forward will looking for better cooler ..maybe WC brows.gif

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55c idle or full load??
my ex X2 5200+ @ 3.2 ghz full load @ 68c on TR120.. hahahaha
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post Feb 28 2008, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Feb 28 2008, 01:45 AM)
haha..is IDE..
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IDE?? mean idle?? ouch....
wat cooler r u using??
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post Feb 28 2008, 02:38 AM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Feb 28 2008, 02:13 AM)
X2 939 with heatpipe
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the opty dual core one??
vcore 1.55 with a heatpipe cooler shouldn't be that hot...
maybe u need to change ur cooler or mod it with somemore fan...
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post Feb 28 2008, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Feb 28 2008, 02:57 AM)
yes is opty dual core stock hsf
the fan is quiet slow bout 2500 rpm.
still looking better 1 fan...
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if u care less about the but want performance, go for DELTA high speed...
but if u want silent, change ur HSF to something that support 120mm fan...
used it back in my opty 144/146/170 days... powerful fan, but sounds like kilang...

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post Feb 28 2008, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 28 2008, 12:54 PM)
already use that..i wonder why cant run
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win prob maybe.. like me, i can't run any 3DMark apps... dunno why also... haih....
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post Feb 28 2008, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Feb 28 2008, 01:24 PM)
3dmark u must install the hotfix to run (06)  notworthy.gif
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~edited~

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QUOTE(ryudox @ Feb 28 2008, 02:36 PM)
i cant run 3dmark06 on 2900XT in winXP..but win vista no problem...

@casperito,i just sold your card la..hoho..
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sold alreadi?? too powerful or too mcuh power consumption?? hehehe
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post Feb 29 2008, 01:57 AM

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tried the superprime @ C2D rig...
it runs around 13-15 seconds...
this thing is good for AMD rigs.. heheh runs around 14-30ms onli...
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post Feb 29 2008, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(alive88 @ Feb 29 2008, 02:09 AM)
ta780g..m-atx..hmmm..
no full atx mobo for ta780??
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dun think so...
from wat i can see, most of Biostar mobos are m-Atx...

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post Mar 2 2008, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(^KamilskaZ^ @ Mar 2 2008, 07:25 PM)
yeah truly i heard only 790fx chipset doesnt have any problem but price cost like a grenade bomb
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well if u want something really good, u need to make holes in ur pocket la...
my DFI 790FX is coming mid of this months... when its here, i'll post up some good review... hehehe...


Added on March 2, 2008, 8:13 pm
QUOTE(teckhooi @ Mar 2 2008, 03:33 PM)
790?

Tak Cukup Duit Duit
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u can try TA780... or u can go for the 790X.. its cheaper than the 790FX...

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post Mar 2 2008, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Mar 2 2008, 09:45 PM)
Too pricey laaa .....but the quality and performance d#mn good
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yes.. dang pricey.. u pay more for performance, why not.. at least its better than the asus and other brands...
if im not mistaken, the DFI 790FX is a bit cheaper than the asus 790fx...
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post Mar 3 2008, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(digswell @ Mar 3 2008, 01:47 PM)
wan m to buy 667 ram..no way..wasting.
better i staby for 1066 ram for my next triple core phenom proc
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hehehe.. triple core fever is coming...

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