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casperito
post Feb 27 2008, 12:29 AM

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saw this some where

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As we all know, the Phenom AMD processors exist famous TLB bug, the bug affects not only performance but also lead to Barcelona and some Phenom processor extension. 日前Inquirer传出消息说Phenom B3 stepping版本仍然没有修正TLB bug。 Inquirer before news spread that Phenom B3 stepping version still did not amend TLB bug.  To this end Elitebastards and Techreport are asked AMD, the AMD confirmed B3 stepping TLB bug has been fixed: "This issue is absolutely no question ... it (on B3 step did not amend TLB) is the story completely wrong. B3 is that this , the end of the story. "

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post Feb 27 2008, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(casperito @ Feb 27 2008, 12:21 AM)
yes... i second to that

from here

http://en.thethirdmedia.com/Article/200801...w7315c12p1.html

we can see that even with TLB patch, it sacrifices performance for stability..
so the B3 batch they solve the TLB errata prob and this will maybe drop the performance for stability...

here's about TLB

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translation_lookaside_buffer

here's some other Phenom reviews

http://www.techspot.com/review/84-amd-phen...ly-performance/

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-3672-vie...-pi-result.html

http://www.techwarelabs.com/reviews/proces..._black_edition/

aishhh... so many.. lazy~~~~~
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That is not true, my friend smile.gif
As what i know, TLB errata is microcode error at part of the L3 cache
The TLB patch is just a temporarily solution, it covers the error parts and that's why it cause performance decrement. ( Part of the L3 cache removed from user usage)
AMD promise to fix the TLB errata by reprogram the microcode.
That is why B3 stepping is known as TLB errata free smile.gif


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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 27 2008, 12:32 AM)
That is not true, my friend  smile.gif
As what i know, TLB errata is microcode error at part of the L3 cache
The TLB patch is just a temporarily solution, it covers the error parts and that's why it cause performance decrement. ( Part of the L3 cache removed from user usage)
AMD promise to fix the TLB errata by reprogram the microcode.
That is why B3 stepping is known as TLB errata free  smile.gif
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ic ic...

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Despite the catastrophic results of the new Phenom 9600 Black Edition processor in the end of our discussion, we didn't intend to once again point out all the drawbacks of AMD's quad-core solutions. It is not our fault that Phenom 9600 loses to Core 2 Quad competitors from Intel. It is slower, doesn't overclock that well, features relatively high power consumption and is not free from the TLB bug that can only be fixed at the expense its performance.


seems that this quote refers to the TLB patch i see... aiyak misunderstand... need more sleep...
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(dblooi @ Feb 27 2008, 12:32 AM)
That is not true, my friend  smile.gif
As what i know, TLB errata is microcode error at part of the L3 cache
The TLB patch is just a temporarily solution, it covers the error parts and that's why it cause performance decrement. ( Part of the L3 cache removed from user usage)
AMD promise to fix the TLB errata by reprogram the microcode.
That is why B3 stepping is known as TLB errata free  smile.gif
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yup...that the right way to explain....
forgot to mention the bug is on the L3.... doh.gif
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:41 AM

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HI sorry OT abit.Who playing CoH and COD 4 here?I wanna compare my performance.I max quality getting about 50FPS average for Coh and 40FPS for COD4 .And not satisfy with it sad.gif
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Feb 27 2008, 12:41 AM)
HI sorry OT abit.Who playing CoH and COD 4 here?I wanna compare my performance.I max quality getting about 50FPS average for Coh and 40FPS for COD4 .And not satisfy with it sad.gif
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sure man??
im playing MOH Airbone already get 100fsp average.....
not checking for the COD4 yet....although finish playing it...but will install it again to test this new LCD.... drool.gif drool.gif
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post Feb 27 2008, 12:54 AM

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found this

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=229337
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post Feb 27 2008, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(casperito @ Feb 27 2008, 12:54 AM)
32 sec for super PI 1M..consider fast or slow?running at 2.3Ghz.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(casperito @ Feb 27 2008, 12:54 AM)
so sad no oc result...
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post Feb 27 2008, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(FuiLo @ Feb 27 2008, 01:02 AM)
32 sec for super PI 1M..consider fast or slow?running at 2.3Ghz.. hmm.gif
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i think it fast already....

QUOTE(hengmy @ Feb 27 2008, 01:03 AM)
so sad no oc result...
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yeah..... sad.gif
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QUOTE(FuiLo @ Feb 27 2008, 01:02 AM)
32 sec for super PI 1M..consider fast or slow?running at 2.3Ghz.. hmm.gif
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32 sec for super PI 1M is fast
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QUOTE(FuiLo @ Feb 27 2008, 01:02 AM)
32 sec for super PI 1M..consider fast or slow?running at 2.3Ghz.. hmm.gif
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2.3ghz @ 32sec consider fast, if can oc to 3.0ghz then sure impresive rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(hengmy @ Feb 27 2008, 01:15 AM)
2.3ghz @ 32sec consider fast, if can oc to 3.0ghz then sure impresive rclxms.gif
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yup...that what im thinking....
but i cant understand the word....not completing my Chinese lesson before.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(casperito @ Feb 27 2008, 12:54 AM)
super pi chinese version ? hmm.gif
no wonder so familiar, it's from itocp.com laugh.gif
kinda uncompleted review , the VR-Zone 1.
I try to search around, let's see whether can get OCed result for that review icon_rolleyes.gif

OT: itocp.com sucks , their core overclockers only know how to achieve high in cpu-z validation ( that's brainless and skilless oc)
OS Tweaks, ram timings tweaks , other secret benching skills ? Sorry they don't know and don't wanna know at all whistling.gif
sorry to say but they are lame whistling.gif

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post Feb 27 2008, 01:38 AM

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Damn hor..I need to get Cooler soon..if not cannot achieve higher...and perhaps better PSU..Waiting Tri Cores..Hope Phenom Tri Cores does better OC too?Maybe...
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Just look for the actual review from them
and what the heck, no oc results rclxub.gif
this is what i got , stock speed comparison between 4400 , 6400 and 8600
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post Feb 27 2008, 01:57 AM

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only comparisons?different speed sure tri core will get left behind in benchmarking with single core..shud oc to 3.0 then make a comparison lor

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dunno whether this is good...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=178389

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=543385

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardw...-preview-5.html


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I am hoping AMD will rise back and defeat intel. thumbup.gif

When will be the released date of the Tri-Core? Anyone knows?
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post Feb 27 2008, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(ocz @ Feb 27 2008, 02:06 AM)
I am hoping AMD will rise back and defeat intel. thumbup.gif

When will be the released date of the Tri-Core? Anyone knows?
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like the good old days back in athlon xp time.. tongue.gif

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